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3 years 11 months ago #259247 by Vitdee
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I was wondering if someone could clarify my understanding of how GP's and consultants word things, or more importantly how the DWP interpret the wording, for example a GP report may say 'he suffers with bilateral knee pain, he says he is unable to walk more than 3-4 steps due to pain'. The knee pain is a fact because they have xrays etc to confirm that. He says is more confusing to me, do they word it like that because they have no proof, physical palpable proof of pain, and have to word it like that for legal reasons or is there another reason for wording it in such a way.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #259259 by BIS
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Hi Deb
We can't confirm why doctors choose to write as they do but remember that many GPs do not realise that the way they write things can sometimes be damaging to a claimant trying to get benefits. X-rays confirm damage - they don't show pain (though they show inflammation) Pain is so individual that most doctors will say 'the patient says" - because it's difficult for them to confirm levels of pain without the patient telling them.
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We can't confirm why doctors choose to write as they do but remember that many GPs do not realise that the way they write things can sometimes be damaging to a claimant trying to get benefits. X-rays confirm damage - they don't show pain (though they show inflammation) Pain is so individual that most doctors will say 'the patient says" - because it's difficult for them to confirm levels of pain without the patient telling them.
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3 years 11 months ago #259274 by ThisGovernmentsGoneToFar
I was formely known as (GoingOffMyHeadWithThisGovernment) Won PIP November 2017 ongoing award HR both. Now kept and got my ESA Support group but took a while.
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Hi get them to write how your disabilities functioning wise as well as diagnosis if you can.
The medical evidence sent on paper has to be “robust” to enable the test for benefit to be met, and should include comments about how functioning is affected.
The medical evidence sent on paper has to be “robust” to enable the test for benefit to be met, and should include comments about how functioning is affected.
I was formely known as (GoingOffMyHeadWithThisGovernment) Won PIP November 2017 ongoing award HR both. Now kept and got my ESA Support group but took a while.
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3 years 11 months ago #259288 by PDix
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My GP always used those words, XX says that ...... but he finished off by saying he had absolutely no reason to doubt me.
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3 years 11 months ago #259436 by Vitdee
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I think GP's don't always realise the impact that their words could have, when we told the GP what the DWP had previously said about mobility he said 'that's ridiculous I am going to put that you can't walk for more than 3-4 paces'. But now the DWP have decided to use that against my husband because they say in his assessment he said he could walk for 2-3 mins. What he actually said was that it would take him 2-3 mins to walk the length of our garden, 25ft, before having to stop because of pain and couldn't do it again for about 25 mins. So they have definitely chosen specific wording so that can put a completely different skew on things.
It would be more helpful if GP's etc could write 'he tells me he can only walk for 3-4 steps and this is consistent with his diagnosis of........' of course the DWP could completely ignore this too, as they seem to have been doing with any relevant evidence that claimants send in, but it might just help clarify the point to the DWP.
It would be more helpful if GP's etc could write 'he tells me he can only walk for 3-4 steps and this is consistent with his diagnosis of........' of course the DWP could completely ignore this too, as they seem to have been doing with any relevant evidence that claimants send in, but it might just help clarify the point to the DWP.
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