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3 years 10 months ago #260581 by an ex nurse
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Hi, I am struggling to find a definition of what is meant by to an acceptable standard in relation to the moving around activity. I walk with a pronounced limp, have foot drop an abnormal gait, significant muscle wasting and loss of strength in one leg, and have severe pain from a spinal problem when mobilising. I also walk slowly and am prone to trip.
How do I apply the not to an acceptable standard criteria when completing my pip review.
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How do I apply the not to an acceptable standard criteria when completing my pip review.
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3 years 10 months ago #260596 by BIS
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Hi an ex nurse
I wouldn't try and overcomplicate it. Can you walk with the same freedom, the same pace, without having to stop to take you from A to B and then repeat it all over again in the same manner that someone who doesn't have your difficulties? No you can't. You walk more slowly, it takes greater effort, you experience severe pain which makes you less steady and therefore less safe, you have an abnormal gait which leaves you at greater risk of hurting yourself. I doubt from what you say that you can do this reliably. (And if you're prone to falling or tripping you need to say so). In no way could that be described as an acceptable standard - even if you use aids.
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I wouldn't try and overcomplicate it. Can you walk with the same freedom, the same pace, without having to stop to take you from A to B and then repeat it all over again in the same manner that someone who doesn't have your difficulties? No you can't. You walk more slowly, it takes greater effort, you experience severe pain which makes you less steady and therefore less safe, you have an abnormal gait which leaves you at greater risk of hurting yourself. I doubt from what you say that you can do this reliably. (And if you're prone to falling or tripping you need to say so). In no way could that be described as an acceptable standard - even if you use aids.
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3 years 10 months ago #260599 by an ex nurse
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Thank you Bis. That has helped to clarify things for me. Best wishes
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3 years 10 months ago #260600 by labrador09
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Thank you for your reply BIC I should have mentioned that the ( DWP ) person on the other end of the phone said they would send me a review form.What my wife actually said was that we wanted a Leap review,so why would they send me a review form they are 2 separate things.I am sorry for waffling on my brain soon goes into overload and I can't carry on with the conversation.thankyou for bothering to reply to me.
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3 years 10 months ago #260626 by LL26
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Hi an ex nurse,
What BIS is totally correct. However please remember that acceptable standard is just one consideration. All pip activities have to be done reliably (Reg 4(2)A)
This means,
Safely
Repeatedly
In a reasonable time
And to an acceptable standard.
I suspect that your poor gait and falls may walking unsafe, especially if done repeatedly (as many times per day as required, or as you should do if you were not disabled).
Reasonable time is no more than twice that of a non disabled person.
Your PIP mobility walking distance (which may be very much shorter than your absolute maximum.) should be the distance that you can comfortably walk, without experiencing severe discomfort which can be pain, breathlessness fatigue etc. Walking with severe discomfort must always be excluded. Whatever walking you can do once you exclude SD has to be able to be repeat and done safely.The manner of walking is probably where acceptable standard comes in. A peculiar gait, or highly affected manner of walking would suggest an unacceptable standard, as would falls etc. There is often an overlap between all of the criteria. All 4 criteria have to be met, otherwise you should re eive points for the activity.
I hope this helps clarify this.
LL26
What BIS is totally correct. However please remember that acceptable standard is just one consideration. All pip activities have to be done reliably (Reg 4(2)A)
This means,
Safely
Repeatedly
In a reasonable time
And to an acceptable standard.
I suspect that your poor gait and falls may walking unsafe, especially if done repeatedly (as many times per day as required, or as you should do if you were not disabled).
Reasonable time is no more than twice that of a non disabled person.
Your PIP mobility walking distance (which may be very much shorter than your absolute maximum.) should be the distance that you can comfortably walk, without experiencing severe discomfort which can be pain, breathlessness fatigue etc. Walking with severe discomfort must always be excluded. Whatever walking you can do once you exclude SD has to be able to be repeat and done safely.The manner of walking is probably where acceptable standard comes in. A peculiar gait, or highly affected manner of walking would suggest an unacceptable standard, as would falls etc. There is often an overlap between all of the criteria. All 4 criteria have to be met, otherwise you should re eive points for the activity.
I hope this helps clarify this.
LL26
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3 years 10 months ago #260657 by Gary
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Hi stevegill5257
I have answered your other post
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I have answered your other post
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