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3 years 10 months ago #260669 by Bud
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Upon MR DWP gave me 4 points for OPD. I was just wondering if they'd given me that as they knew that I'd never qualify for an enhanced rate of mobility, planning & following journeys. So if they gave me the 4 points rather than none this would prevent me from getting standard mobility. I've always found this to be quite complex to understand, & I've spent a long time trying. Although LL26 gives a good explanation, but I've still never been sure whether or not I would qualify. Just a thought.
Upon MR DWP gave me 4 points for OPD. I was just wondering if they'd given me that as they knew that I'd never qualify for an enhanced rate of mobility, planning & following journeys. So if they gave me the 4 points rather than none this would prevent me from getting standard mobility. I've always found this to be quite complex to understand, & I've spent a long time trying. Although LL26 gives a good explanation, but I've still never been sure whether or not I would qualify. Just a thought.
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3 years 10 months ago #260677 by LL26
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Hi Bud,
I'm glad that you found my explanation helpful.
It is entirely possible that DWP award a few points to deter you claiming more!
I am sure that they have a habit of awarding just 2 points for using an aid or appliance across various sections, leaving profoundly disabled 'happy' to be awarded standard rate, whereas the reality should easily be enhanced rate. And being 'happy' to have received any award, these people never bother to appeal thinking it was hard enough to get what they did, or if DWP only gave me 2 points, that must be the right number!
DWP are notoriously bad at awarding the correct points for OPD, they got a strict telling off when they tried to amend the law after the MH case and the High Court said it was unlawful.
Have you got a copy of the P4A assessment report, to see exactly what was said? Additionally, you could go to the tribunal to try and obtain a mobility award?
You would need to fill out an SSCS1 firm, which can be done on line. Make it clear that you are only appealing the mobility, although of course you can also appeal daily living if that award is lower than you expected. You will receive the full set if papers from DWP and their explanations.
If you don't want to continue with the appeal, you can withdraw the appeal at any point. There is a small risk of losing whatever award you may already have, if the tribunal review the whole award, but you could then withdraw as the tribunal would need to give a warning.
You may also be interested in a case I was recentlt looking in to.
DWP often maintain that OPD means overwhelming psychological distress that means distress related to an enduring mental health condition or intellectual or cognitive impairment which results in a severe anxiety state in which the symptoms are so severe that the person is unable to function. In JT v SSWP
www.gov.uk/administrative-appeals-tribun...ip-2020-ukut-186-aac
Judge Rowland considered the meaning if OPD in respect if engaging with other people. In my view there is no reason why the same ideas should not apply to mobility 1.
Judge Rowland made 2 important points: Firstly that if someone avoided socialising due to the panic, distress etc it caused, then it was likely to be OPD. Secondly, it is important to consider Reg.4(2)A. This is the safely, reasonable time, repeatedly, acceptable standard criteria.
Have a think about mobility 1 and maybe ask friends/family for their opinion. It may be worth while pursuing.
I hope this helps.
LL26
I'm glad that you found my explanation helpful.
It is entirely possible that DWP award a few points to deter you claiming more!
I am sure that they have a habit of awarding just 2 points for using an aid or appliance across various sections, leaving profoundly disabled 'happy' to be awarded standard rate, whereas the reality should easily be enhanced rate. And being 'happy' to have received any award, these people never bother to appeal thinking it was hard enough to get what they did, or if DWP only gave me 2 points, that must be the right number!
DWP are notoriously bad at awarding the correct points for OPD, they got a strict telling off when they tried to amend the law after the MH case and the High Court said it was unlawful.
Have you got a copy of the P4A assessment report, to see exactly what was said? Additionally, you could go to the tribunal to try and obtain a mobility award?
You would need to fill out an SSCS1 firm, which can be done on line. Make it clear that you are only appealing the mobility, although of course you can also appeal daily living if that award is lower than you expected. You will receive the full set if papers from DWP and their explanations.
If you don't want to continue with the appeal, you can withdraw the appeal at any point. There is a small risk of losing whatever award you may already have, if the tribunal review the whole award, but you could then withdraw as the tribunal would need to give a warning.
You may also be interested in a case I was recentlt looking in to.
DWP often maintain that OPD means overwhelming psychological distress that means distress related to an enduring mental health condition or intellectual or cognitive impairment which results in a severe anxiety state in which the symptoms are so severe that the person is unable to function. In JT v SSWP
www.gov.uk/administrative-appeals-tribun...ip-2020-ukut-186-aac
Judge Rowland considered the meaning if OPD in respect if engaging with other people. In my view there is no reason why the same ideas should not apply to mobility 1.
Judge Rowland made 2 important points: Firstly that if someone avoided socialising due to the panic, distress etc it caused, then it was likely to be OPD. Secondly, it is important to consider Reg.4(2)A. This is the safely, reasonable time, repeatedly, acceptable standard criteria.
Have a think about mobility 1 and maybe ask friends/family for their opinion. It may be worth while pursuing.
I hope this helps.
LL26
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3 years 10 months ago #260706 by Bud
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Hi LL26,
That’s so true that people are ‘Happy’ with what they get. I was one of those people, until they stopped my SDL. It suddenly dawned on me that they always gave me 10 points. I got no points upon assessment, but was successful in my MR. I’d had enough of them though by this time & took it to the tribunal where I got an enhanced award for DL. Again, I’m just happy that I got the extra 2 points that gave me that award. All thanks to B&W. Thanks L.
That’s so true that people are ‘Happy’ with what they get. I was one of those people, until they stopped my SDL. It suddenly dawned on me that they always gave me 10 points. I got no points upon assessment, but was successful in my MR. I’d had enough of them though by this time & took it to the tribunal where I got an enhanced award for DL. Again, I’m just happy that I got the extra 2 points that gave me that award. All thanks to B&W. Thanks L.
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3 years 10 months ago #260708 by Bud
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Sorry, I forgot to add this to my last post. Just out of interest do the tribunal do a report as to how they reached their decision? That is other than the letter that they send you with your points & what they are for. Thank you.
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3 years 10 months ago #260717 by Gary
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Hi Bud
Thank you for the compliment. The guides on the forum are very good, the back office do a very good job of keeping the guides up todate, over the last year the guides were changing on a frequent basis.
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Thank you for the compliment. The guides on the forum are very good, the back office do a very good job of keeping the guides up todate, over the last year the guides were changing on a frequent basis.
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3 years 10 months ago #260718 by Gary
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Hi Bud
The answer is yes, it is called a statement of reason (SOR).
You usually ask for a copy of the statement of reasons if you are unhappy with the result at the Tribunal and you are thinking of appealing to the Upper Tribunal.
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The answer is yes, it is called a statement of reason (SOR).
You usually ask for a copy of the statement of reasons if you are unhappy with the result at the Tribunal and you are thinking of appealing to the Upper Tribunal.
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