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PIP review - any chance of paper-based assessment?

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3 years 8 months ago #262413 by Matthew H
Hi everyone.
I applied for PIP back in April 2019 for EUPD, PTSD and dissociative symptoms. I was very fortunate to get enhanced rate daily living, standard rate mobility first time round with the need for MR or appeal, partly due to luck I'm sure, and also because I sent a large amount of evidence (past psych reports etc., though nothing specifically written for this) and generally looked in detail into how it is scored to make sure my evidence and answers covered all the things they need to know about (plus I was a nervous wreck at the assessment!) Now I have received the dreaded review form, and I can see the boxes for putting information are very small compared to the original form. I was planning on submitting a letter from my clinical psychologist (she is going to write one specifically for this, addressing all the activities in the form), a more general one from my GP, confirming my diagnoses, meds, recent inpatient admissions etc., and a couple of letters I already have from my neurologist (my dissociative symptoms have since been formally diagnosed a dissociative seizures). Do you think they will still want to speak to me? Can I ask in the letters a paper based assessment happens instead, or could that go worse for me if they do that? I am dreading it so much and really struggling to cope with the idea, either of an assessment of having my PIP revoked.
Many thanks

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3 years 8 months ago #262414 by BIS
Hi Peter

You can definitely ask for a paper-based assessment, but make sure you put in a reason why. If they say no - there is a new system rolling out which allows you to appeal this decision. See the details here www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/4392-clai...ia-new-review-system

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3 years 8 months ago #262416 by Matthew H
Thank you, that is very helpful. I just don't know what to do for the best, I really want to avoid the assessment, but also I'm worried that could work against me, as there will be less opportunity to further explain things to them? I suppose if I make sure my letters are thorough it will help avoid that.

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3 years 8 months ago #262417 by BIS
Hi Pet

You can only go with your gut instinct. It is true that if you have a paper-based assessment you don't have the opportunity to explain anything that might not be clear. Whether that counts against you or not will depend on a number of different factors including luck!

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3 years 8 months ago #262428 by Matthew H
OK thank you so much. Can I ask just one more thing? Am I right in thinking that if no descriptor applies more than half the time, you get points for the one that applies the most?

So for example, with cooking, I struggle due to my self injurious behaviour and also seizures, but these things are variable. So, as a rough estimate, about 2 days a week I feel unable to cook at all, 3 days can if assisted by my partner (e.g. I do weighing/measuring, washing veg, reading the recipe, she does the tasks that require handling knives and hot substances), and 2 days I can do it if supervised, would the needs assistance one apply? Or would that just confuse them and risk them giving me 0 as no single descriptor applies more than half the time, and should I just err on the side of caution and say I always need supervision (even though sometimes i need more than that)?

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3 years 8 months ago #262429 by denby
Hello Peter. IMHO [I'm not a mod] Do write asking for a paper-based assessment, be sure to use the phrase Overwhelming Psychological Distress [my capitals just because assessors use the abbreviation OPD] and referencing specific passages in your medical letters that back this up. We asked for and got one for our daughter. Like you she was freaked at the prospect of any other assessment. Yes you are not there to add to it. But the good thing is to phone and find out when the assessment is done, they may or may not text you if you have given a mob. no. to say so; you can ask them to if you wish. As soon as the report is done, request a copy [PA3] If they try to fob you off just end the call and try again. As soon as you see the report, check it through with a highlighter pen. If anything is wrong or missing, write ASAP to 'The Decision Maker' at the DWP office it came from, to coldly put the facts straight, descriptor by relevant descriptor. This way in effect you are still adding whatever you now know is necessary.
Doing this turned our daughter's paper-based report from pretty dire to a decision for enhanced on both as she had had before, without all the stress of MR and appeal.
Really hope this helps,
Denby
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