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3 years 6 months ago #264365 by kateshelp
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Therese Coffey said today, that those in the ESA support Group should consider what work they can do. She stated that too many are in the Support Group and that means she's planning to trim the group down at the expense of the sick and disabled who are unable to work and have already proved this at numerous Work assessments. And not a word on how the DWP endless testing has cost the lives of many, and left the rest of us nervous wrecks.
In her mind, disability benefits should be based on a limited number, not all those who actually need support. And she also made a dig on the amount of young people claiming PIP for mental health.
In her mind, disability benefits should be based on a limited number, not all those who actually need support. And she also made a dig on the amount of young people claiming PIP for mental health.
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3 years 6 months ago #264385 by ThisGovernmentsGoneToFar
I was formely known as (GoingOffMyHeadWithThisGovernment) Won PIP November 2017 ongoing award HR both. Now kept and got my ESA Support group but took a while.
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Kateshelp, this is Therese Coffey at her finest she just doesn't get the fact that most disabled people can only cope on a day to day basis, meaning a disabled person can maybe only sustain a job by having many more days off than in work?
I agree we can all do something BUT it's a case of how long for? Most employers Won't take on a disabled person knowing the full facts of the disabled person, this will be a case of the claimant being off work rather than in work? Agreed some disabled can hold a full, or part time job but very few.
These Tory's are really living in a dream world if they really think many disabled can even sustain a job let alone get one in the first place?
Also another point from that article that she is looking into is weather to join PIP ESA, UC as one assessment?
This cannot be done. Reasons are PIP is for claimants in and out of work?
This seems a bit contradictory? In part their saying using XYZ.
This is a response from the Government.
1. The Department for Work and Pensions uses functional assessments to help determine entitlement for a number of benefits, including Personal Independence Payments (PIP), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) and, for those claiming because they have a disability or health condition that impacts on their capability for work, Universal Credit (UC
2. We use a separate assessment to determine entitlement for PIP. Unlike in UC and ESA, PIP aims to help people with the extra costs of a disability or long-term health condition. PIP is paid regardless of income or savings. Once someone has been awarded PIP, which can be paid at one of eight rates, that award will be reviewed. Reviews of PIP are a key part of the benefit to ensure that awards remain correct where needs may change (including where needs increase and the award may need to increase) and that we maintain contact with the individual, both features that were missing from PIP’s predecessor Disability Living Allowance. The length of an award is based on an individual’s circumstances and can vary from nine months to an on-going award, with a light touch review after 10 years.
DWPs own words clearly states.
We use a separate assessment to determine entitlement for PIP. Unlike in UC and ESA, PIP aims to help people with the extra costs of a disability or long-term health condition.
Believe me when I say this this government just love persecuting the poor and disabled in anyway they can.
When and if I ever get told to get a full time job they will have a fight on their hands you can be assured of that.
I agree we can all do something BUT it's a case of how long for? Most employers Won't take on a disabled person knowing the full facts of the disabled person, this will be a case of the claimant being off work rather than in work? Agreed some disabled can hold a full, or part time job but very few.
These Tory's are really living in a dream world if they really think many disabled can even sustain a job let alone get one in the first place?
Also another point from that article that she is looking into is weather to join PIP ESA, UC as one assessment?
This cannot be done. Reasons are PIP is for claimants in and out of work?
This seems a bit contradictory? In part their saying using XYZ.
This is a response from the Government.
1. The Department for Work and Pensions uses functional assessments to help determine entitlement for a number of benefits, including Personal Independence Payments (PIP), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) and, for those claiming because they have a disability or health condition that impacts on their capability for work, Universal Credit (UC
2. We use a separate assessment to determine entitlement for PIP. Unlike in UC and ESA, PIP aims to help people with the extra costs of a disability or long-term health condition. PIP is paid regardless of income or savings. Once someone has been awarded PIP, which can be paid at one of eight rates, that award will be reviewed. Reviews of PIP are a key part of the benefit to ensure that awards remain correct where needs may change (including where needs increase and the award may need to increase) and that we maintain contact with the individual, both features that were missing from PIP’s predecessor Disability Living Allowance. The length of an award is based on an individual’s circumstances and can vary from nine months to an on-going award, with a light touch review after 10 years.
DWPs own words clearly states.
We use a separate assessment to determine entitlement for PIP. Unlike in UC and ESA, PIP aims to help people with the extra costs of a disability or long-term health condition.
Believe me when I say this this government just love persecuting the poor and disabled in anyway they can.
When and if I ever get told to get a full time job they will have a fight on their hands you can be assured of that.
I was formely known as (GoingOffMyHeadWithThisGovernment) Won PIP November 2017 ongoing award HR both. Now kept and got my ESA Support group but took a while.
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3 years 6 months ago #264391 by MrFibro
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Hi, it's a kull, no more no less.
Coffey is callous, has no empathy, and is no different to all of her predecessors, or could it be she's proving to be far worse.
pandemic costed over 400 billion quid from the UK treasury. (public purse).
And now its the sick / disabled who are being targeted to re-plenish towards filling up their koffers, by once again being forced to work.
And if this causes an increase in suicides, they wont care, as they will save in state pensions etc.
Good luck to all.
Coffey is callous, has no empathy, and is no different to all of her predecessors, or could it be she's proving to be far worse.
pandemic costed over 400 billion quid from the UK treasury. (public purse).
And now its the sick / disabled who are being targeted to re-plenish towards filling up their koffers, by once again being forced to work.
And if this causes an increase in suicides, they wont care, as they will save in state pensions etc.
Good luck to all.
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