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1 year 4 months ago #282317 by Roch82
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Good evening.
I recently had an appeal case for change of circumstances, which didn't go in my favour.
I have asked for a statement of reasons and the Audio of the proceedings.
I have received my Statement of reasons and the told me that I couldn't have the audio as this was blank not anything recorded, which I find strange as the gentleman in charge of that started on stop it a few times when we had breaks in between.
There is a few things that are unlawful and I have been told, grants me to apply to ask them to set aside. The DPW still allowed me to keep my current claim award previous to my change of circumstances, but if I ask for a set aside and it's accepted, could I then be in fire line again to potentially loose my award I already have? TIA
I recently had an appeal case for change of circumstances, which didn't go in my favour.
I have asked for a statement of reasons and the Audio of the proceedings.
I have received my Statement of reasons and the told me that I couldn't have the audio as this was blank not anything recorded, which I find strange as the gentleman in charge of that started on stop it a few times when we had breaks in between.
There is a few things that are unlawful and I have been told, grants me to apply to ask them to set aside. The DPW still allowed me to keep my current claim award previous to my change of circumstances, but if I ask for a set aside and it's accepted, could I then be in fire line again to potentially loose my award I already have? TIA
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1 year 4 months ago #282336 by Gordon
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Any award you had before the Tribunal hearing will take effect if you challenge the Tribunal Decision.
So, if you were awarded Standard Daily Living by the DWP and appealed for the Enhanced rate which was refused then the Standard rate will remain in payment.
However, as another example, if the DWP made no award and the Tribunal made a Standard award while you were appealing for an Enhanced one, then taking the matter further will result in the DWP's no award taking effect again.
Are you sure you mean a Set Aside as opposed to an appeal to the Upper Tier, for a Set Aside there has to have been a clear and material Error of Law in the First Tier Decision, a good example of this would be the panel being improperly constituted. A Set Aside usually requires all three parties to agree on the Error.
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Any award you had before the Tribunal hearing will take effect if you challenge the Tribunal Decision.
So, if you were awarded Standard Daily Living by the DWP and appealed for the Enhanced rate which was refused then the Standard rate will remain in payment.
However, as another example, if the DWP made no award and the Tribunal made a Standard award while you were appealing for an Enhanced one, then taking the matter further will result in the DWP's no award taking effect again.
Are you sure you mean a Set Aside as opposed to an appeal to the Upper Tier, for a Set Aside there has to have been a clear and material Error of Law in the First Tier Decision, a good example of this would be the panel being improperly constituted. A Set Aside usually requires all three parties to agree on the Error.
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1 year 4 months ago #282363 by LL26
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Hi Roch82,
This may be of use to you, to help clarify. As per Gordon, if there has been a 'procedural irregularity you can apply for a set aside.
If there is no other record of proceedings eg a hand written or typed note, then this could comprise 'a procedural irregularity'. I know that this has been suggested as a course of action by at least one tribunal to allow a set aside.
You can apply for this under rule 37(d). - see below
There is normally 1 month time limit after the decision notice is sent to apply for a set aside.
If the tribunal is suggesting this course of action it seems that you won't need to argue other errors of law. You will get a new hearing that will be with different panel members, who can look at everything again.
Setting aside a decision which disposes of proceedings
37.—(1) The Tribunal may set aside a decision which disposes of proceedings, or part of such a decision, and re-make the decision, or the relevant part of it, if—
(a)the Tribunal considers that it is in the interests of justice to do so; and
(b)one or more of the conditions in paragraph (2) are satisfied.
(2) The conditions are—
(a)a document relating to the proceedings was not sent to, or was not received at an appropriate time by, a party or a party’s representative;
(b)a document relating to the proceedings was not sent to the Tribunal at an appropriate time;
(c)a party, or a party’s representative, was not present at a hearing related to the proceedings; or
(d)there has been some other procedural irregularity in the proceedings.
(3) A party applying for a decision, or part of a decision, to be set aside under paragraph (1) must make a written application to the Tribunal so that it is received no later than 1 month after the date on which the Tribunal sent notice of the decision to the party.
I hope this helps.
LL26
This may be of use to you, to help clarify. As per Gordon, if there has been a 'procedural irregularity you can apply for a set aside.
If there is no other record of proceedings eg a hand written or typed note, then this could comprise 'a procedural irregularity'. I know that this has been suggested as a course of action by at least one tribunal to allow a set aside.
You can apply for this under rule 37(d). - see below
There is normally 1 month time limit after the decision notice is sent to apply for a set aside.
If the tribunal is suggesting this course of action it seems that you won't need to argue other errors of law. You will get a new hearing that will be with different panel members, who can look at everything again.
Setting aside a decision which disposes of proceedings
37.—(1) The Tribunal may set aside a decision which disposes of proceedings, or part of such a decision, and re-make the decision, or the relevant part of it, if—
(a)the Tribunal considers that it is in the interests of justice to do so; and
(b)one or more of the conditions in paragraph (2) are satisfied.
(2) The conditions are—
(a)a document relating to the proceedings was not sent to, or was not received at an appropriate time by, a party or a party’s representative;
(b)a document relating to the proceedings was not sent to the Tribunal at an appropriate time;
(c)a party, or a party’s representative, was not present at a hearing related to the proceedings; or
(d)there has been some other procedural irregularity in the proceedings.
(3) A party applying for a decision, or part of a decision, to be set aside under paragraph (1) must make a written application to the Tribunal so that it is received no later than 1 month after the date on which the Tribunal sent notice of the decision to the party.
I hope this helps.
LL26
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1 year 3 months ago #282506 by Roch82
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Hi. Thank you for your replies.
My CA worker has told me she is going to ask for a set aside from the first tribunal due to there been no recording and that she don't think they have taken anything what I had put in my change of circumstances in to consideration what's so ever.
It's so confusing to me.
Thank you
My CA worker has told me she is going to ask for a set aside from the first tribunal due to there been no recording and that she don't think they have taken anything what I had put in my change of circumstances in to consideration what's so ever.
It's so confusing to me.
Thank you
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