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1 year 3 weeks ago #284923 by davidjps
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Hi.
I currently get PIP at the higher rate for Daily Living. I now have to claim Universal Credit. I have noticed some of the criteria I meet for UC ('Coping with change' and 'Going out') are not overlapping on PIP, because I got 0 for planning and following a journey. In fact I got 0 for the Mobility part. Will the assessor use this against me. I'm worried that I may score 0 because they don't overlap?
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I currently get PIP at the higher rate for Daily Living. I now have to claim Universal Credit. I have noticed some of the criteria I meet for UC ('Coping with change' and 'Going out') are not overlapping on PIP, because I got 0 for planning and following a journey. In fact I got 0 for the Mobility part. Will the assessor use this against me. I'm worried that I may score 0 because they don't overlap?
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1 year 3 weeks ago #284929 by Gary
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Hi davidjps
Welcome to the forum.
You might want to have a look at the following FAQ which explains where everything is; www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/guides-for-claimants/faq/forum.
Therea few questions in PIP and WCA that overlap, Gordon produced a spreadsheet a while ago highlighting which questions overlapped, you can find the spreadsheet if you click on guides tab, move down slightly you will come across "UC/ESA and PIP overlap"
Remember, there are two parts to the work capability assessment :-
The first part looks at whether you have 'limited capability for work' (LCW)
The second part looks at whether you have a 'limited capability for work related activity' (LCWRA)
1) Limited Capability for Work
Assessment to help determine benefit entitlement based on the extent to which a claimant’s health condition or disability affects their capability for work
2) Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity
Assessment to help determine whether the claimant can be placed in the Support Group because the effect of their condition is so severe that it would be unreasonable to expect them to engage in work-related activity.
You will be found to have limited capability for work and work-related activity if:
* at least one of the LCWRA descriptors applies to you for the majority of the time or on the majority of the occasions that you try to carry out the activity;
* your capability for work and work-related activity is limited; and
* it is not reasonable for you to carry out the activity.
To be assessed as having a limited capability for work, you need to score 15 points or more. Add together the highest score from each activity that applies to you.
The following criterion can only be considered once it has been determined that the claimant has not scored fifteen or more points against the schedule 2 descriptors (limited capability for work), and/or they have not scored against one or more of the schedule 3 descriptors (limited capability for work and work-related activity).
* if, because of a specific health condition or disability, the physical or mental health of the claimant or anybody else would be at risk if they were not found to have limited capability for work-related activity
In order to qualify for the Support/LCWRA Group you need to;
* meet one or more of the relevant descriptors, or
* meet one of the associated Exceptional Circumstances rules.
The Support/LCWRA Group descriptors and the Exceptional Circumstances are listed in the Claiming ESA guides in the members area.
Gary
Welcome to the forum.
You might want to have a look at the following FAQ which explains where everything is; www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/guides-for-claimants/faq/forum.
Therea few questions in PIP and WCA that overlap, Gordon produced a spreadsheet a while ago highlighting which questions overlapped, you can find the spreadsheet if you click on guides tab, move down slightly you will come across "UC/ESA and PIP overlap"
Remember, there are two parts to the work capability assessment :-
The first part looks at whether you have 'limited capability for work' (LCW)
The second part looks at whether you have a 'limited capability for work related activity' (LCWRA)
1) Limited Capability for Work
Assessment to help determine benefit entitlement based on the extent to which a claimant’s health condition or disability affects their capability for work
2) Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity
Assessment to help determine whether the claimant can be placed in the Support Group because the effect of their condition is so severe that it would be unreasonable to expect them to engage in work-related activity.
You will be found to have limited capability for work and work-related activity if:
* at least one of the LCWRA descriptors applies to you for the majority of the time or on the majority of the occasions that you try to carry out the activity;
* your capability for work and work-related activity is limited; and
* it is not reasonable for you to carry out the activity.
To be assessed as having a limited capability for work, you need to score 15 points or more. Add together the highest score from each activity that applies to you.
The following criterion can only be considered once it has been determined that the claimant has not scored fifteen or more points against the schedule 2 descriptors (limited capability for work), and/or they have not scored against one or more of the schedule 3 descriptors (limited capability for work and work-related activity).
* if, because of a specific health condition or disability, the physical or mental health of the claimant or anybody else would be at risk if they were not found to have limited capability for work-related activity
In order to qualify for the Support/LCWRA Group you need to;
* meet one or more of the relevant descriptors, or
* meet one of the associated Exceptional Circumstances rules.
The Support/LCWRA Group descriptors and the Exceptional Circumstances are listed in the Claiming ESA guides in the members area.
Gary
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