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3 weeks 4 days ago #306790 by David
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Hi Jon
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Hi, had my telephone appointment. It had been rescheduled and the letter emailed to me about the new appointment was a bit more 'personal' . It stated 'We have arranged a telephone interview with a work coach. At this interview you will need to agree and accept your claimant commitment. The claimant commitment is your record of the actions that you need to take to continue getting New Style ESA. It will not include any work-related activities' It also describes it as New Style ESA New Joiner (Migrated Claim as UC Claim). Why on earth was I so worried, there was literally nothing asked. The coach/advisor simply stated why the call is needed, it was to update the claim as I had migrated. Then went through basic security questions (the only questions asked!). I was then told they need to know I am aware to report any changes. This is done by them simply telling you. Thats it. They will email you or post a letter for your records. I was also told that if I needed any help or had any problems with payment to contact said person who would raise it in head office in Belfast where the payments are done. I could use the UC journal for the case manager but if no joy for ESA related matters contact them. THere was absolutely no prying or tricks. It literally, if you dont ask any questions, be over in 3 mins. The letter calls it an interview that will last 30 mins, and we will ask you about your health. They know I was in support group, but in the call it was not mentioned only stated I just need to inform them of any changes like others have said. Hope this puts peoples mind at rest "
David
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Hi, had my telephone appointment. It had been rescheduled and the letter emailed to me about the new appointment was a bit more 'personal' . It stated 'We have arranged a telephone interview with a work coach. At this interview you will need to agree and accept your claimant commitment. The claimant commitment is your record of the actions that you need to take to continue getting New Style ESA. It will not include any work-related activities' It also describes it as New Style ESA New Joiner (Migrated Claim as UC Claim). Why on earth was I so worried, there was literally nothing asked. The coach/advisor simply stated why the call is needed, it was to update the claim as I had migrated. Then went through basic security questions (the only questions asked!). I was then told they need to know I am aware to report any changes. This is done by them simply telling you. Thats it. They will email you or post a letter for your records. I was also told that if I needed any help or had any problems with payment to contact said person who would raise it in head office in Belfast where the payments are done. I could use the UC journal for the case manager but if no joy for ESA related matters contact them. THere was absolutely no prying or tricks. It literally, if you dont ask any questions, be over in 3 mins. The letter calls it an interview that will last 30 mins, and we will ask you about your health. They know I was in support group, but in the call it was not mentioned only stated I just need to inform them of any changes like others have said. Hope this puts peoples mind at rest "
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3 weeks 4 days ago #306805 by Jon
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Thanks David.
Very useful.
Thank you.
Very useful.
Thank you.
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3 days 4 hours ago #307788 by Jon
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Hi David,
The New Style ESA interview was quick but odd. The caller told me 'I have been let off the hook' and wont be contacted again to look for work.
Subsequent to this I have received two ESA payments as well as a small UC payment, when added up still dont come to the total I was on with ESA.
Further to this, Islington Council sent me letters demanding I pay my rent as I was in arrears - I have NEVER been in arrears before. Indeed, I paid 3 weeks rent up front to cover the short gap between Housing Benefit ending and UC paying my rent.
However, when I queried this with Islington Council they said I was £56 in credit after receiving money from UC. Surely I should be 3 weeks in credit if UC have paid my rent.
I am still really confused. When Housing Benefit ends, surely UC take over the payment. There should be no gap where I have to pay rent myself out of my pocket.
I have borrowed the money to make sure I was not in arrears during this process, but it seems UC are not paying from when Housing Benefit ends, but from the time they process my claim. Surely, this cant be right?
I am getting desperate as I have to pay back the money I borrowed.
The New Style ESA interview was quick but odd. The caller told me 'I have been let off the hook' and wont be contacted again to look for work.
Subsequent to this I have received two ESA payments as well as a small UC payment, when added up still dont come to the total I was on with ESA.
Further to this, Islington Council sent me letters demanding I pay my rent as I was in arrears - I have NEVER been in arrears before. Indeed, I paid 3 weeks rent up front to cover the short gap between Housing Benefit ending and UC paying my rent.
However, when I queried this with Islington Council they said I was £56 in credit after receiving money from UC. Surely I should be 3 weeks in credit if UC have paid my rent.
I am still really confused. When Housing Benefit ends, surely UC take over the payment. There should be no gap where I have to pay rent myself out of my pocket.
I have borrowed the money to make sure I was not in arrears during this process, but it seems UC are not paying from when Housing Benefit ends, but from the time they process my claim. Surely, this cant be right?
I am getting desperate as I have to pay back the money I borrowed.
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3 days 3 hours ago #307794 by latetrain
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Hi Jon
HB was paid every four weeks whereas UC is Paid monthly, you have your assessment period and then you get paid 7 days later.
Unless you get transitional protection, claimants in receipt of ESA and Disability premiums such as SDP and EDP will be worse off.
We would advise you to seek advice from your local Welfare Rights Organisation: advicelocal.uk. where they can take all your circumstances into consideration when giving you advice.
Gary
HB was paid every four weeks whereas UC is Paid monthly, you have your assessment period and then you get paid 7 days later.
Unless you get transitional protection, claimants in receipt of ESA and Disability premiums such as SDP and EDP will be worse off.
We would advise you to seek advice from your local Welfare Rights Organisation: advicelocal.uk. where they can take all your circumstances into consideration when giving you advice.
Gary
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1 day 6 hours ago #307870 by Jon
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Hi Gary
Thanks for your kind reply.
I have now received my 'Statement' of UC benefits which is exactly the figure I worked it out to be ie. I am receiving the same money I was getting with ESA (but with a transitional payment to cover the Severe Disability Premium I was getting). Plus I am getting a Housing element (which I have checked and is also correct on my statement).
My main question is, between ESA ending and UC starting, will there be any gap where the Government wont cover my Rent, or should it just be a continuation without any financial loss to myself.
Thanks for your kind reply.
I have now received my 'Statement' of UC benefits which is exactly the figure I worked it out to be ie. I am receiving the same money I was getting with ESA (but with a transitional payment to cover the Severe Disability Premium I was getting). Plus I am getting a Housing element (which I have checked and is also correct on my statement).
My main question is, between ESA ending and UC starting, will there be any gap where the Government wont cover my Rent, or should it just be a continuation without any financial loss to myself.
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1 day 2 hours ago #307890 by latetrain
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Hi Jon
There will be a gap between claimants receiving ESA and UC, what the government has done to cover this period is to offer an Advanced payment if you are in financial need. This is why we advise claimants to get the timing right, apply just after ESA payment has gone into their bank a/c.
The advanced payment will be recovered from subsequent payments, usually within a maximum of 23 months.
Gary
There will be a gap between claimants receiving ESA and UC, what the government has done to cover this period is to offer an Advanced payment if you are in financial need. This is why we advise claimants to get the timing right, apply just after ESA payment has gone into their bank a/c.
The advanced payment will be recovered from subsequent payments, usually within a maximum of 23 months.
Gary
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