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 		 			 	 						14 years 3 months ago				#63773 		by DRAGON2009 	  	 		 			 	    			 			 		 													
 	 				Replied by DRAGON2009 on topic Re:social contact descriptor and support group			
  			 				Rachel,  as  usual a first class  input  from you,  its  very useful,  they clearly  mean therefore a  severely  socially  phobic  individual
 
This means also one without good days when they can, as it says ALWAYS
 
That will be the problem, the descriptor specifies ALWAYS
 
which means that concepts such as repeatdly or reliably able to perform a function, as per case law and guidance, does not assist a claimant with this particular descriptor who has some good days
 
Obviously any claimant trying to benefit from this descriptor can expect a forensic scrutiny of daily living to find any examples to deny them this descriptor, or if the HCP is kinly and good natured, the oppositem an attempt to question to find sufficient evidence to apply this one
  					This means also one without good days when they can, as it says ALWAYS
That will be the problem, the descriptor specifies ALWAYS
which means that concepts such as repeatdly or reliably able to perform a function, as per case law and guidance, does not assist a claimant with this particular descriptor who has some good days
Obviously any claimant trying to benefit from this descriptor can expect a forensic scrutiny of daily living to find any examples to deny them this descriptor, or if the HCP is kinly and good natured, the oppositem an attempt to question to find sufficient evidence to apply this one
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 			 	 						14 years 3 months ago				#63779 		by originaldave 	  	 		 			 	    			 			 		 													
 	 				Replied by originaldave on topic Re:social contact descriptor and support group			
  			 				re reading the question from the form
 
16 (a) Engagement in social contact is always precluded due to difficulty relating to others or significant distress experienced by the individual. 15 points
 
and reading all the imput from others ... I think 16 is wrote in such a way that its only going to be met by a small group of people with very serious problems at one end of the spectrum
 
the most many will get is 9
  					16 (a) Engagement in social contact is always precluded due to difficulty relating to others or significant distress experienced by the individual. 15 points
and reading all the imput from others ... I think 16 is wrote in such a way that its only going to be met by a small group of people with very serious problems at one end of the spectrum
the most many will get is 9
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 			 	 						14 years 3 months ago				#63784 		by mayflower 	  	 		 			 	    			 			 		 													
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  			 				I had my reassessment for ESA under the new ESA regime within the last month & was moved from the WRAG to the Support Group. I have ME/CFS & secondary depression & answered 'No' to number 16 in detail on 2 A4 typed pages the reasons why.
I don't know how my answer was interpreted by the HCP & DM as I am waiting to receive the relevant reports & will then post again.
mayflower
  					I don't know how my answer was interpreted by the HCP & DM as I am waiting to receive the relevant reports & will then post again.
mayflower
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 			 	 						14 years 3 months ago				#63787 		by DRAGON2009 	  	 		 			 	    			 			 		 													
 	 				Replied by DRAGON2009 on topic Re:social contact descriptor and support group			
  			 				Hi Mayflower, please do let  us all know whether  it was  the  social  contact descriptor that was  applied,  and on what basis, and as  well a summary of your problems that  they accepted,  the sort of  and extent of  your  difficulty
 
Thanks
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 			 	 						14 years 3 months ago				#63791 		by originaldave 	  	 		 			 	    			 			 		 													
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  			 				mayflower wrote: 
40 pages
  hospitails write to gps giving them all the info on someone they have seen who is nearly dead in less than 10 lines... you must have scared them that if it went to appeal you would send 4000 pages  
 
joking aside its shows give them ALL the information you can
  					I had my reassessment for ESA under the new ESA regime within the last month & was moved from the WRAG to the Support Group. I have ME/CFS & secondary depression & answered 'No' to number 16 in detail on 2 A4 typed pages the reasons why.
I don't know how my answer was interpreted by the HCP & DM as I am waiting to receive the relevant reports & will then post again.
mayflower
40 pages
joking aside its shows give them ALL the information you can
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- RachelPotter
 
 			 	 						14 years 3 months ago				#63825 		by RachelPotter 	  	 		 			 	    			 			 		 													
 	 				Replied by RachelPotter on topic Re:social contact descriptor and support group			
  			 				Xfactor wrote they clearly mean therefore a severely socially phobic individual
 
CD wrote
Really?
 
 
It is suggested in the guides that severe anxiety would cover this and I guess, someone who is severely socially phobic could be classed as having severe anxiety?
 
Best wishes,
Rachel
  					CD wrote
Really?
It is suggested in the guides that severe anxiety would cover this and I guess, someone who is severely socially phobic could be classed as having severe anxiety?
Best wishes,
Rachel
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