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PIP 10 months 2 weeks ago #194810

wondering if you would know what this is about. My son was my carer,claiming carers allowance from March 2016 until October 2016, when he went back to work full time, he phoned carers allowance and stopped the claim and has not received any money from them since then. He is still my carer but unpaid. I have just had my DLA to PIP assessment for which, as I have already said on here, I did not get awarded PIP. I got the decision letter on 14/7/17 and on 15/7/17 my son got a letter from carers allowance to say that as I would no longer be getting DLA his carers allowance would also be ending?? as i have said he does not receive it anyway, the letter also said he could reapply if i were awarded PIP in the future. We just put this letter down to a mistake, just a standard letter and left it at that. Today he has received another letter from carers allowance unit which says " I am writing to you because we need some information about your carers allowance. We need to check that you are still entitled to carers allowance. Meanwhile we will stop any further payments into your account." It then goes on to ask for payslips, P60, P45 etc, we just cant understand what this is about and my son is refusing point blank to provide these things to them as he said he gets nothing from them so they have no right to ask. I dont suppose this has got anything to do with it but I sent off my mandatory reconsideration for PIP and they signed for it on 26/7/17 and this letter to my son was written on 31/7/17 probably too soon for them to have made a decision, just clutching at straws really. I am completely baffled by this so any ideas, opinions or help would be very much appreciated.

PIP 10 months 1 week ago #194834


Did he specifically stop the CA claim or advised them that he was starting full time work, is there any possibility that the person he spoke to assumed the latter rather than the former?

It sounds like his CA claim was not closed, working full time would mean that he lost entitlement to payment of his CA, which would account for the fact that he has not received any payments.

Did he record the date and time of the phone call he made? As there appears to have been no overpayment of CA it should not be an issue, but it would be helpful if he can direct then to the call.

Whilst I understand his position in regard to the P60s, etc. this problem may not go away without him providing the information and could impact him making any claim in the future.

I would recommend that he write to the DWP and send the letter by tracked post so he has proof of delivery, explaining that it was understanding that he had closed the CA claim on the day that phoned them and it is their error if this was not done.

It has nothing to do with your requesting an MR of the Decision.

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PIP 8 months 3 weeks ago #197699

Hello again, got my mandatory reconsideration decision and nothings changed still only 4 points for each component, really gutted i know not many people are successful at this stage but you do hope you'll be one of the lucky ones, so i am going to appeal but am scared stiff about the prospect and have some questions i would be grateful for advice on. I have got only until 4th Oct to do this and am very stressed as i also have WCA on Saturday and am in the throws of moving house. i have printed off SSCS1 and as i wrote the mandatory reconsideration as you would for appeal listing each descriptor and how i met the criteria and what i think i should have been awarded, pointed out discrepancies between the assessment and the report etc do i need to do this again or just state that i feel not enough weight was given to my conditions and therefore the correct decision was not made? An advisor at my local council is trying to get me an advocate but has not got one yet, can you leave the part about a representative and if and when i get an advocate inform them then? and finally (for the moment at least!) as i have said i am moving house in the next 6 weeks or so, i doubt i would have heard about appeal by then and is it likely to be a problem informing tribunal of change of address? TIA

PIP 8 months 3 weeks ago #197717


the PIP Submissions guide has a complete example that you can use to help you fill it in, you do not need to provide detailed reasons at this stage for your request.

Once your appeal is accepted the DWP will prepare their submission to the hearing and send you a copy, whilst you should wait until you receive this to finish and submit your own, you should start to prepare your own case, an increased award will only be made by your showing that you score the extra points for one, so I would start by going back through your PIP2, the assessment report and the PIP Claim guide to see how you might show this is the case.

It may be that you are happy with what you have previously submitted as part of the MR, but I would still have a look through everything when you receive the DWP bundle to make sure that you haven't missed anything


PIP 8 months 3 weeks ago #197745

Hi Gordon, thank you for your reply will do as you suggest and go through everything again. can i just ask again about representation, can you tell them you will be having this after you have sent the appeal request and will my change of address be a problem? Thank you.

PIP 8 months 3 weeks ago #197749

Deborah wrote: Hi Gordon, thank you for your reply will do as you suggest and go through everything again. can i just ask again about representation, can you tell them you will be having this after you have sent the appeal request and will my change of address be a problem? Thank you.


Yes notify the TS if you find a Representative.

I would include details of your move with your SSCS1 especially if you are moving out of area, otherwise you may have to travel back to your current location for the hearing. It's very unlikely that a hearing will be booked within the six weeks.
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