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3 years 4 months ago #264834 by Dave
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Hi,
My daughter will change from DLA to having a PIP assessment when she is sixteen. She is on the waiting list at CAMHs for an autism test. There’s no doubt she has it as well as other learning disabilities. How long after she is sixteen do they contact you? (I’m her appointee) is it on her birthday exactly. Her test won’t be for a while and she has already said she will not go for a PIP test. She’s terrified. If the PIP assessment is delayed then she will have time to take the autism test. I hope this makes sense, I’m dyslexic. Thanks
My daughter will change from DLA to having a PIP assessment when she is sixteen. She is on the waiting list at CAMHs for an autism test. There’s no doubt she has it as well as other learning disabilities. How long after she is sixteen do they contact you? (I’m her appointee) is it on her birthday exactly. Her test won’t be for a while and she has already said she will not go for a PIP test. She’s terrified. If the PIP assessment is delayed then she will have time to take the autism test. I hope this makes sense, I’m dyslexic. Thanks
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3 years 4 months ago #264850 by Gary
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Hi Dave
You daughter should get a letter just before her 16th birthday (18 in Scotland) inviting her to claim PIP, it is important to make the claim by the date given in the letter so that DLA can continue until the PiP claim is decided.
One of the first things is to understand the difference between DLA and PIP.
DLA looks at generic care needs in regard to bodily functions, PIP looks at the claimants specific ability to carry out an activity such as eating. DLA was awarded because the claimant needed an amount of care (in time) during the day, the night or both, to help them with that bodily function.
PIP looks at the claimant's ability to complete specific tasks within the activity and is points-based, these are clearly defined and it is easy not to score points because the claimant has not shown that they meet those specific criteria.
DLA treated the use of aids as a reason to reduce the amount of care needed, PIP treats aids as an indication of disability and in general they score extra points.
DLA's care need was reasonably generic, PIP treats prompting, assistance and supervision as different activities and as a result, they can score different points.
DLA required that the care was required for the majority of the time, for PIP it is the majority of days.
For PIP activities must be completed reliably, this means
• Safely – in a fashion that is unlikely to cause harm to themselves or to another person.
• To a necessary and appropriate standard – given the nature of the activity.
• Repeatedly – as often as is reasonably required.
• In a timely manner – in a reasonable time period.
Although DLA considers these terms, they are poorly defined as they are implemented through Case Law rather than being defined in the legislation as they are for PIP.
Have a look at our PIP Claim guide for a better understanding of the criteria your daughter will need to meet.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
Gary
You daughter should get a letter just before her 16th birthday (18 in Scotland) inviting her to claim PIP, it is important to make the claim by the date given in the letter so that DLA can continue until the PiP claim is decided.
One of the first things is to understand the difference between DLA and PIP.
DLA looks at generic care needs in regard to bodily functions, PIP looks at the claimants specific ability to carry out an activity such as eating. DLA was awarded because the claimant needed an amount of care (in time) during the day, the night or both, to help them with that bodily function.
PIP looks at the claimant's ability to complete specific tasks within the activity and is points-based, these are clearly defined and it is easy not to score points because the claimant has not shown that they meet those specific criteria.
DLA treated the use of aids as a reason to reduce the amount of care needed, PIP treats aids as an indication of disability and in general they score extra points.
DLA's care need was reasonably generic, PIP treats prompting, assistance and supervision as different activities and as a result, they can score different points.
DLA required that the care was required for the majority of the time, for PIP it is the majority of days.
For PIP activities must be completed reliably, this means
• Safely – in a fashion that is unlikely to cause harm to themselves or to another person.
• To a necessary and appropriate standard – given the nature of the activity.
• Repeatedly – as often as is reasonably required.
• In a timely manner – in a reasonable time period.
Although DLA considers these terms, they are poorly defined as they are implemented through Case Law rather than being defined in the legislation as they are for PIP.
Have a look at our PIP Claim guide for a better understanding of the criteria your daughter will need to meet.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
Gary
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3 years 4 months ago #264860 by denby
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Hi and I so feel for you - took six months to get my husband's autism assessment ten years back and I have to wait "2 1/2 years" for mine -but they are doing so few atm it will be SEVEN years [yes shouting!].
But my main point is, as your daughter is terrified by the prospect of a PIP assessment please set about getting a doctor's letter that specifically says that to be put through either a phone, video or face-to-face one would cause her "Overwhelming Psychological Distress." I have just put the capitals as assessors will actually abbreviate to OPD in reports. It does not guarantee they will do a paper-based assessment instead with those words in the letter, but it is very unlikely without them.
And a paper-based assessment is what you need from the sound of it.
best wishes,
Denby
But my main point is, as your daughter is terrified by the prospect of a PIP assessment please set about getting a doctor's letter that specifically says that to be put through either a phone, video or face-to-face one would cause her "Overwhelming Psychological Distress." I have just put the capitals as assessors will actually abbreviate to OPD in reports. It does not guarantee they will do a paper-based assessment instead with those words in the letter, but it is very unlikely without them.
And a paper-based assessment is what you need from the sound of it.
best wishes,
Denby
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