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3 years 4 months ago #265109 by Waxwing
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I am a registered carer and helping someone (my brother) who has a physical disability and suffers from mental congnitive problems. His first application he did himself and it was a complete car crash. Took 2 years to find out he failed and this caused him massive amounts of distress over the 2 year period only to find he was not entitled (when he is)
We are going to do another claim but this time I am giving him extensive help. He has great problems expressing himself because of his cognitive problems. What we are doing is I am asking him questions and he is giving me the details and I am putting those details into language that acuratly describes his problems with the activities. It is taking us a long time becasue he suffers from alot of pain and fatigue also has problems with consentraiting so we do it in small sessions. I am doing all of the typing for him because he would not be able to do that himself.
My question is does he need to declare that all the information has been typed out and worded by his registered carer with help from himself.
Hope that makes sense. I just do not want to do something that would hurt or jepardise his claim.
Thank you in advance.
Waxwing
I am a registered carer and helping someone (my brother) who has a physical disability and suffers from mental congnitive problems. His first application he did himself and it was a complete car crash. Took 2 years to find out he failed and this caused him massive amounts of distress over the 2 year period only to find he was not entitled (when he is)
We are going to do another claim but this time I am giving him extensive help. He has great problems expressing himself because of his cognitive problems. What we are doing is I am asking him questions and he is giving me the details and I am putting those details into language that acuratly describes his problems with the activities. It is taking us a long time becasue he suffers from alot of pain and fatigue also has problems with consentraiting so we do it in small sessions. I am doing all of the typing for him because he would not be able to do that himself.
My question is does he need to declare that all the information has been typed out and worded by his registered carer with help from himself.
Hope that makes sense. I just do not want to do something that would hurt or jepardise his claim.
Thank you in advance.
Waxwing
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3 years 4 months ago #265116 by LL26
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Hi Waxwing,
I answered a very similar point in a recent post, to which you can commented. If you present a nicely typed, correctly worded answer sheet, for someone who has cognitive difficulties, and can't express himself, DWP will doubt the level of disability is as claimed. It is really important to add a page to explain how the form was written and the help required, including time taken. Doing this could also be important for descriptors such as reading, communication, engaging etc. If you can provide evidence, maybe your brother says I can do X, but you know he can't, you can always write this on the pages too, give an example if you can.
I hope this helps.
LL26
I answered a very similar point in a recent post, to which you can commented. If you present a nicely typed, correctly worded answer sheet, for someone who has cognitive difficulties, and can't express himself, DWP will doubt the level of disability is as claimed. It is really important to add a page to explain how the form was written and the help required, including time taken. Doing this could also be important for descriptors such as reading, communication, engaging etc. If you can provide evidence, maybe your brother says I can do X, but you know he can't, you can always write this on the pages too, give an example if you can.
I hope this helps.
LL26
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3 years 4 months ago #265119 by Waxwing
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Thank you LL26 for your reply and yes I did reply to your post in another persons post which made a very god point which I never thought off but then it made me think and I was unsure of what to do and how to do it hence I created my own post instead of Hijacking someone elses post. You also made a very good point that it would show clear evidence that my brother needs help with reading, communication, engaging etc.
One final point please for clarification. How would I declare that I had helped my brother? Would I include it in a support letter or should I include it on a seperate sheet of paper that would be included in his claim and would I put my own signature to that paper. Sorry if I am repeating myself but I just want to be 100% sure.
Thank you kindly in advance LL26 it is most appreciated.
Waxwing
One final point please for clarification. How would I declare that I had helped my brother? Would I include it in a support letter or should I include it on a seperate sheet of paper that would be included in his claim and would I put my own signature to that paper. Sorry if I am repeating myself but I just want to be 100% sure.
Thank you kindly in advance LL26 it is most appreciated.
Waxwing
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3 years 4 months ago #265136 by Gary
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Hi Waxwing
Yes write your brother a support letter stating what support you give and why, especially if it is on a regular basis.
On the application form it ask for any other information, this is where you can add that you completed the form, but you need to explain why you have completed the form.
Add your name and address and sign it, don't forget to add your brothers name and NI Number at the top of the letter.
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Yes write your brother a support letter stating what support you give and why, especially if it is on a regular basis.
On the application form it ask for any other information, this is where you can add that you completed the form, but you need to explain why you have completed the form.
Add your name and address and sign it, don't forget to add your brothers name and NI Number at the top of the letter.
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3 years 4 months ago #265154 by LL26
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Hi Waxwing,
What I normally do is to write a comment on a prominent place that the form was completed by yourself, on behalf of your brother. Then, as Gary has suggested you can explain further on a separate page the help you give generally, and specifically with the form.
Good luck.
LL26
What I normally do is to write a comment on a prominent place that the form was completed by yourself, on behalf of your brother. Then, as Gary has suggested you can explain further on a separate page the help you give generally, and specifically with the form.
Good luck.
LL26
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