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2 years 6 months ago #271943 by Wilchampion
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Hello
I'm not very good at explaining but here goes.
My son is 15, currently on DLA. Received a letter, the gist of it being: he will be moved to PIP at 16, and does he need an appointee.
My lad has chromosome abnormalities (Edwards syndrome) he has a heart defect and learning disabilities. He cannot read or write. I do want to give him a chance to manage his own money though.
Now, my question is can I be his appointee but the money goes to his bank account? There is a sentence that says "if someone is applying to be 'name' appointee they should fill in their details"
This is above the box for bank details, so it looks like the payment would have to go the the appointee's account.
I'm not sure whether to put my account or my son's. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
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I'm not very good at explaining but here goes.
My son is 15, currently on DLA. Received a letter, the gist of it being: he will be moved to PIP at 16, and does he need an appointee.
My lad has chromosome abnormalities (Edwards syndrome) he has a heart defect and learning disabilities. He cannot read or write. I do want to give him a chance to manage his own money though.
Now, my question is can I be his appointee but the money goes to his bank account? There is a sentence that says "if someone is applying to be 'name' appointee they should fill in their details"
This is above the box for bank details, so it looks like the payment would have to go the the appointee's account.
I'm not sure whether to put my account or my son's. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for reading
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2 years 6 months ago #271985 by Gary
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Hi Wilchampion
Welcome to the forum.
You might want to have a look at the following FAQ which explains where everything is; www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/guides-for-claimants/faq/forum
In regards to your question about appointee; www.gov.uk/become-appointee-for-someone-claiming-benefits, As an appointee you’re responsible for making and maintaining any benefit claims. There is nothing stopping you from setting up a direct debit from your bank account to your son's account.
Just to give you the heads up about DLA and PIP.
One of the first things is to understand the difference between DLA and PIP.
DLA looks at generic care needs in regard to bodily functions, PIP looks at the claimants specific ability to carry out an activity such as eating. DLA was awarded because the claimant needed an amount of care (in time) during the day, the night or both, to help them with that bodily function.
PIP looks at the claimant's ability to complete specific tasks within the activity and is points-based, these are clearly defined and it is easy not to score points because the claimant has not shown that they meet those specific criteria.
DLA treated the use of aids as a reason to reduce the amount of care needed, PIP treats aids as an indication of disability and in general they score extra points.
DLA's care need was reasonably generic, PIP treats prompting, assistance and supervision as different activities and as a result, they can score different points.
DLA required that the care was required for the majority of the time, for PIP it is the majority of days.
For PIP activities must be completed reliably, this means
• Safely – in a fashion that is unlikely to cause harm to themselves or to another person.
• To a necessary and appropriate standard – given the nature of the activity.
• Repeatedly – as often as is reasonably required.
• In a timely manner – in a reasonable time period.
Although DLA considers these terms, they are poorly defined as they are implemented through Case Law rather than being defined in the legislation as they are for PIP.
Do check out our guides when you get the PIP form; benefitsandwork.co.uk/guides-for-claimants/pip
Gary
Welcome to the forum.
You might want to have a look at the following FAQ which explains where everything is; www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/guides-for-claimants/faq/forum
In regards to your question about appointee; www.gov.uk/become-appointee-for-someone-claiming-benefits, As an appointee you’re responsible for making and maintaining any benefit claims. There is nothing stopping you from setting up a direct debit from your bank account to your son's account.
Just to give you the heads up about DLA and PIP.
One of the first things is to understand the difference between DLA and PIP.
DLA looks at generic care needs in regard to bodily functions, PIP looks at the claimants specific ability to carry out an activity such as eating. DLA was awarded because the claimant needed an amount of care (in time) during the day, the night or both, to help them with that bodily function.
PIP looks at the claimant's ability to complete specific tasks within the activity and is points-based, these are clearly defined and it is easy not to score points because the claimant has not shown that they meet those specific criteria.
DLA treated the use of aids as a reason to reduce the amount of care needed, PIP treats aids as an indication of disability and in general they score extra points.
DLA's care need was reasonably generic, PIP treats prompting, assistance and supervision as different activities and as a result, they can score different points.
DLA required that the care was required for the majority of the time, for PIP it is the majority of days.
For PIP activities must be completed reliably, this means
• Safely – in a fashion that is unlikely to cause harm to themselves or to another person.
• To a necessary and appropriate standard – given the nature of the activity.
• Repeatedly – as often as is reasonably required.
• In a timely manner – in a reasonable time period.
Although DLA considers these terms, they are poorly defined as they are implemented through Case Law rather than being defined in the legislation as they are for PIP.
Do check out our guides when you get the PIP form; benefitsandwork.co.uk/guides-for-claimants/pip
Gary
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2 years 6 months ago #272064 by Wilchampion
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Thank you very much Gary. Very informative. I shall put my bank account, then give him the money. Luckily (well not really, but you know what I mean) he has lots of evidence for his conditions. It's just a shame the whole process of claiming is so stressful.
Thanks again
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2 years 6 months ago #272069 by Teddy
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Hi there, I just want to mention that whatever you decide, be aware if you save it up in his name, then when he reaches the age for Universal Credit, it will count against him if he has more than £6,000 in his name. We had money from grandparents etc and now my daughter receives less Universal Credit. Obviously a lot of people would not be able to save it anyway but I am just mentioning it because some of us thought we were doing the right thing to save it for them but it turns out not to be so right...
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1 year 10 months ago #277424 by Wilchampion
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Hello, just popping in to update. He had a telephone assessment at the beginning of February. This was with me, he did not have to speak. The assessor said at least 8 weeks for a decision. Received a letter today, enhanced rate for both daily living and mobility needs.
I'm so glad I joined this website, so very helpful. I'm so grateful, thanks so much
I'm so glad I joined this website, so very helpful. I'm so grateful, thanks so much
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1 year 10 months ago #277446 by BIS
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Hi Wilchampion
What splendid news! Many congratulations on all your hard work and getting your son the support he needs. I am so glad it was all done with you, and he wasn't forced to speak. You clearly did a great job!
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What splendid news! Many congratulations on all your hard work and getting your son the support he needs. I am so glad it was all done with you, and he wasn't forced to speak. You clearly did a great job!
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