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2 years 3 months ago #273882 by Glen
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We are struggling to complete this question as it says under mobility Q1 to plan and follow a journey . My wife has Osteoarthritis in her knees one is very severe so she could plan a journey in theory but could not follow it.
1 She has stopped driving and going shopping.
2 She can really only go walking in some pain and with my physical help not just with a stick or something even with pain kiers it's the movements that cause her additional pain. . Simply as at times her knee can suddenly give way So I physically can hold or lift her. ( Once she was with a friend and fell in middle of road and could not get up as one of her knees is almost bone on bone if she could get on her knees it causes excruciating pain.
3 I take her by car everywhere and help her in and out. She has stopped driving.
4 No bus journeys as stepping in and out of a bus and standing on a journey causes too much fatigue. Also her difficulty getting out of a seat maybe once if she can find enough to hold onto especially in a moving bus but not twice I can help her physically but it becomes to tiring. So I take her by car for the limited journeys she does.
So her physical abilities or disabilities prevent her completing a journey on her own.
Would the above description be suitable in this first mobility question please advise help. Thank You
1 She has stopped driving and going shopping.
2 She can really only go walking in some pain and with my physical help not just with a stick or something even with pain kiers it's the movements that cause her additional pain. . Simply as at times her knee can suddenly give way So I physically can hold or lift her. ( Once she was with a friend and fell in middle of road and could not get up as one of her knees is almost bone on bone if she could get on her knees it causes excruciating pain.
3 I take her by car everywhere and help her in and out. She has stopped driving.
4 No bus journeys as stepping in and out of a bus and standing on a journey causes too much fatigue. Also her difficulty getting out of a seat maybe once if she can find enough to hold onto especially in a moving bus but not twice I can help her physically but it becomes to tiring. So I take her by car for the limited journeys she does.
So her physical abilities or disabilities prevent her completing a journey on her own.
Would the above description be suitable in this first mobility question please advise help. Thank You
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2 years 3 months ago #273887 by peter
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Replied by peter on topic Mobility activities Q13 Planning and following a journey (Activity 1
Hi Glen,
I cut and pasted the below from the PIP Guide
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/?dlp=6335eee0a41b5
Mobility activities
1. Planning and following journeys.
a. Can plan and follow the route of a journey unaided. 0 points.
b. Needs prompting to be able to undertake any journey to avoid overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant. 4 points.
c. Cannot plan the route of a journey. 8 points.
d. Cannot follow the route of an unfamiliar journey without another person, assistance dog or orientation aid. 10 points.
e. Cannot undertake any journey because it would cause overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant. 10 points.
f. Cannot follow the route of a familiar journey without another person, an assistance dog or an orientation aid. 12 points.
As I hope you can see this question really relates to mental function rather than physical issues. I guess you could ask yourselves whether, if provided with a wheelchair and an able bodied person to push it she would be able to plan the journey and direct the person pushing her.
Your answers are probably more relevant to the moving around question unless, for example, the medication for the condition muddles the brain so much as to affect planning ability.
If you haven’t looked at the guide I strongly recommend you do.
A few personal hints
1. Do write about her worst days. Assume there are no good days.
2. Mention every single aid used by your wife in her daily life.
3. Don’t feel embarrassed to say if she has to have your assistance for dressing, undressing, getting to the loo etc. no matter how personal the help.
4. Does she have a raised seat on the loo, is there a shower seat.
5. It’s not good enough just to say there is pain you need to say how that pain disables you.
I hope the above has helped
Regards
Pete
I cut and pasted the below from the PIP Guide
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/?dlp=6335eee0a41b5
Mobility activities
1. Planning and following journeys.
a. Can plan and follow the route of a journey unaided. 0 points.
b. Needs prompting to be able to undertake any journey to avoid overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant. 4 points.
c. Cannot plan the route of a journey. 8 points.
d. Cannot follow the route of an unfamiliar journey without another person, assistance dog or orientation aid. 10 points.
e. Cannot undertake any journey because it would cause overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant. 10 points.
f. Cannot follow the route of a familiar journey without another person, an assistance dog or an orientation aid. 12 points.
As I hope you can see this question really relates to mental function rather than physical issues. I guess you could ask yourselves whether, if provided with a wheelchair and an able bodied person to push it she would be able to plan the journey and direct the person pushing her.
Your answers are probably more relevant to the moving around question unless, for example, the medication for the condition muddles the brain so much as to affect planning ability.
If you haven’t looked at the guide I strongly recommend you do.
A few personal hints
1. Do write about her worst days. Assume there are no good days.
2. Mention every single aid used by your wife in her daily life.
3. Don’t feel embarrassed to say if she has to have your assistance for dressing, undressing, getting to the loo etc. no matter how personal the help.
4. Does she have a raised seat on the loo, is there a shower seat.
5. It’s not good enough just to say there is pain you need to say how that pain disables you.
I hope the above has helped
Regards
Pete
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2 years 3 months ago #273910 by Glen
Replied by Glen on topic Mobility activities Q13 Planning and following a journey (Activity 1
Thank You I understand the question is meant to be more about mental than physical ability. But she cannot follow a journey independently physically on her own.Then how can we write that if you see what I mean. Thanks for your help and everyone here.
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2 years 3 months ago #273924 by Gary
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Replied by Gary on topic Mobility activities Q13 Planning and following a journey (Activity 1
Hi Glen
The Going Out activity looks at three things.
Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.
Undertaking a Journey - this is to do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.
Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there any problems; cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact, if you cannot undertake a journey then you will not score points for following one and vice versa.
It does not consider any physical problems that may prevent you from following a route. That would come under the Moving Around activity.
Gary
The Going Out activity looks at three things.
Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.
Undertaking a Journey - this is to do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.
Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there any problems; cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact, if you cannot undertake a journey then you will not score points for following one and vice versa.
It does not consider any physical problems that may prevent you from following a route. That would come under the Moving Around activity.
Gary
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2 years 3 months ago #274048 by Glen
Replied by Glen on topic Mobility activities Q13 Planning and following a journey (Activity 1
Thanks a lot I think what stops her doing a journey without me is when she almost got run over after her leg gave way in the middle of the road. This was very dangerous and she was lucky the car stopped in time. She had to be helped up and was very traumatised. Thank You for your help.
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