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1 year 7 months ago #280776 by JJ
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Hi Team I'm not sure if I submitted my query correctly yesterday, so I am just re-writing a brief one. (please do not think I am being impatient I just cant remember if I clicked submit, sorry). I am basically trying to find out if the therapy considered for someone who uses a sleep apnea machine issued by a Hospital Respiratory Dept. (COPD). is considered for the machine itself - usage all night whilst asleep for oxygen due to collapsing airways. Or if it is referring to the physical activity of someone helping with the setting up of the machine & the cleaning of it , etc. As if the therapy is for the need for the oxygen itself then this could take the patient up to 8 points in itself. Or, alternatively, if the therapy is another person assisting to manage the equipment then the amount if time involved could be very little hence so could the points. (if any). Thank you for any advice you can give on this. Kind Regards
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1 year 7 months ago #280779 by Gary
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Hi JJ
Managing Therapy means undertaking therapy, where a failure to do so is likely to result in a deterioration in your health. The activity considers the amount of time each week that you need support from another person to be able to manage the therapy.
The therapy needs to be undertaken at home and needs to have been prescribed or recommended by a registered doctor, nurse, pharmacist or a health professional regulated by the Health and Care Professions Council. This could include home oxygen supply.
I have looked on PIPinfo; pipinfo.net but I could not see any case law. Other colleagues may be able to point you in the right direction or contact your local Welfare Rights Organisation; advicelocal.uk .
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Managing Therapy means undertaking therapy, where a failure to do so is likely to result in a deterioration in your health. The activity considers the amount of time each week that you need support from another person to be able to manage the therapy.
The therapy needs to be undertaken at home and needs to have been prescribed or recommended by a registered doctor, nurse, pharmacist or a health professional regulated by the Health and Care Professions Council. This could include home oxygen supply.
I have looked on PIPinfo; pipinfo.net but I could not see any case law. Other colleagues may be able to point you in the right direction or contact your local Welfare Rights Organisation; advicelocal.uk .
Gary
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1 year 7 months ago #280786 by MrH2020
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We all get told these days AI is taking over so I asked Chatgp JJ's question and they are not as good as people say, well not yet.
I am applying for PIP and I am basically trying to find out if the therapy considered for someone who uses a sleep apnea machine issued by a Hospital Respiratory Dept. (COPD). is considered for the machine itself - usage all night whilst asleep for oxygen due to collapsing airways. Or if it is referring to the physical activity of someone helping with the setting up of the machine & the cleaning of it , etc. As if the therapy is for the need for the oxygen itself then this could take the patient up to 8 points in itself. Or, alternatively, if the therapy is another person assisting to manage the equipment then the amount if time involved could be very little hence so could the points.
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PIP (Personal Independence Payment) is a UK government benefit designed to provide financial assistance to individuals with long-term disabilities or health conditions. The assessment for PIP takes into account how a person's condition affects their ability to carry out specific activities related to daily living and mobility.
In the case of using a sleep apnea machine for COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease) and the need for oxygen due to collapsing airways, it would generally be considered as part of the "daily living" component of the PIP assessment. The focus would primarily be on how the condition affects your ability to carry out tasks related to personal care and mobility.
The therapy aspect of PIP refers to the treatment or support required to manage your condition. This can include the need for oxygen, assistance with using medical equipment, or any other form of therapy required to alleviate the impact of your health condition. It is not limited to physical activity but encompasses the overall support and treatment needed.
When assessing your eligibility for PIP, the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) considers the impact of your condition on your ability to perform activities such as dressing, bathing, cooking, managing medications, and engaging with others. The use of medical equipment and therapy requirements would be taken into account within these activity areas.
To determine the number of points you may be awarded, the PIP assessment evaluates how your condition affects your ability to carry out these activities. It is based on the extent of help or supervision you need, the frequency with which you require assistance, and any difficulties or barriers you face. The points system ranges from 0 to 12, with a higher score indicating a greater level of impairment or need for support.
It's important to note that I am an AI language model and not a PIP assessor. For precise information regarding your specific circumstances and the eligibility criteria for PIP, it's recommended to consult official sources such as the official PIP guidance or seek assistance from a benefits advisor or welfare rights organization.
I am applying for PIP and I am basically trying to find out if the therapy considered for someone who uses a sleep apnea machine issued by a Hospital Respiratory Dept. (COPD). is considered for the machine itself - usage all night whilst asleep for oxygen due to collapsing airways. Or if it is referring to the physical activity of someone helping with the setting up of the machine & the cleaning of it , etc. As if the therapy is for the need for the oxygen itself then this could take the patient up to 8 points in itself. Or, alternatively, if the therapy is another person assisting to manage the equipment then the amount if time involved could be very little hence so could the points.
ChatGPT
PIP (Personal Independence Payment) is a UK government benefit designed to provide financial assistance to individuals with long-term disabilities or health conditions. The assessment for PIP takes into account how a person's condition affects their ability to carry out specific activities related to daily living and mobility.
In the case of using a sleep apnea machine for COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease) and the need for oxygen due to collapsing airways, it would generally be considered as part of the "daily living" component of the PIP assessment. The focus would primarily be on how the condition affects your ability to carry out tasks related to personal care and mobility.
The therapy aspect of PIP refers to the treatment or support required to manage your condition. This can include the need for oxygen, assistance with using medical equipment, or any other form of therapy required to alleviate the impact of your health condition. It is not limited to physical activity but encompasses the overall support and treatment needed.
When assessing your eligibility for PIP, the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) considers the impact of your condition on your ability to perform activities such as dressing, bathing, cooking, managing medications, and engaging with others. The use of medical equipment and therapy requirements would be taken into account within these activity areas.
To determine the number of points you may be awarded, the PIP assessment evaluates how your condition affects your ability to carry out these activities. It is based on the extent of help or supervision you need, the frequency with which you require assistance, and any difficulties or barriers you face. The points system ranges from 0 to 12, with a higher score indicating a greater level of impairment or need for support.
It's important to note that I am an AI language model and not a PIP assessor. For precise information regarding your specific circumstances and the eligibility criteria for PIP, it's recommended to consult official sources such as the official PIP guidance or seek assistance from a benefits advisor or welfare rights organization.
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1 year 7 months ago #280809 by BIS
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Hi MrH2020
A lot of words - but didn't answer the question. Interesting experiment.
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A lot of words - but didn't answer the question. Interesting experiment.
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1 year 7 months ago #280815 by JJ
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Thank you for all of this.
I was with the applicant this afternoon during the PIP telephone assessment. Although we had listed sleep apnea, they did not really question it/talk about it, so, we volunteered the information that the CPAP machine is needed all night every night. We also pointed out that help is needed from another person to use the equipment effectively. They did not ask how often this help was given or how many evenings, etc.
I will be interested to find out how this has been accounted for within the assessment, so I will let you know once we receive the outcome. Fingers crossed until then.
Thank you again.
I was with the applicant this afternoon during the PIP telephone assessment. Although we had listed sleep apnea, they did not really question it/talk about it, so, we volunteered the information that the CPAP machine is needed all night every night. We also pointed out that help is needed from another person to use the equipment effectively. They did not ask how often this help was given or how many evenings, etc.
I will be interested to find out how this has been accounted for within the assessment, so I will let you know once we receive the outcome. Fingers crossed until then.
Thank you again.
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1 year 7 months ago - 1 year 7 months ago #280829 by LL26
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Replied by LL26 on topic PIP -- CPAP Machine - Managing Therapy
Hi JJ,
Real person, no AI !!!
Have a look at this link - I wrote previously, which included information on this topic, at the end of my post, and other useful information.
Let me know if you have any further queries.
I hope this helps.
LL26
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/kunena/10-dla-...0-sleep-apnea/unread
Real person, no AI !!!
Have a look at this link - I wrote previously, which included information on this topic, at the end of my post, and other useful information.
Let me know if you have any further queries.
I hope this helps.
LL26
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/kunena/10-dla-...0-sleep-apnea/unread
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