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3 days 3 hours ago #298542 by Bear1980
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My husband has schizophrenia and is on a lot of medication. On a daily basis he falls asleep on the bus or taxi , at church, in waiting room or with others or at home. Does this count as disinhibited behaviour for the LCWRA as others do find it strange and inappropriate

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2 days 14 hours ago #298547 by David
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Hi Bear1980

There is advice on what counts as " disinhibited " in the BenefitsandWork guide on the WCA.
I cannot see falling asleep being accepted as disinhibited behaviour in this context as the assessor will be looking for examples of aggressive behaviour and in my opinion falling asleep obviously is about as passive an activity as you can get. There would be case law/tribunal hearings regarding this subject that would be worth having a look at to see if there are any favourable arguments.

www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/?dlp=6797196649efd

What we consider this activity is about
Caution: this is just our idea of what these terms may mean; the decision maker or
tribunal may take a different view. You don’t need to read this section to complete the
questionnaire.
Uncontrollable episodes
If your episodes can be controlled then they may not count. However, if they happen without
warning or they cannot be controlled once they begin then they should be considered.
Aggressive or disinhibited behaviour
This could be things like:
• Shouting
• Swearing
• Lashing out
• Singing loudly
• Removing clothing
• Crying
• Running about
• Challenging people to a fight
• Talking about inappropriate subjects, such as sex, to strangers
Unreasonable in any workplace
Any of the behaviour listed above would be unlikely to be acceptable in most workplaces.
on a daily basis
This would probably have to be on every, or almost every, day.
Frequently
There is no legal definition of frequently in this context. If the episodes are on a less than
daily basis, all you can do is give detailed information and, if you are unhappy with the result
of your claim, consider including this issue in your mandatory reconsideration request or
appeal.
Occasionally
As for frequently above.

David

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2 days 34 minutes ago #298581 by Freedricka
Replied by Freedricka on topic UC LCWRA
It's unclear whether sleeping would count as disinhibited, however a key part of the descriptor is whether "the behaviour is unreasonable in any workplace" sleeping in work is not appropriate so this may count as disinhibited I would strongly encourage you to appeal if the DWP don't accept the behaviour as disinhibited, also you should consider the applicability of lcwra on the basis of substantial risk, if he where to fall asleep during work related activity (either at home or a jobcentre) and he was woken up to continue would his reaction pose a substantial risk to his physical or mental health or to the person who woke him up? Or would his behaviour result in a risk of sanctions?

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2 days 18 minutes ago #298583 by David
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Hi Freedricka,

You mention what would happen if he was woken up. I suppose if there was a violent or aggressive reaction then that would meet the criterion.

David

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