IR ESA & PIP to UC & PIP Confusion about new style ESA

Hi.
The P60 explanations are received and understood - loud and clear.

The answer to the following, however, is unclear - and it's a query made off the back of advice I read elsewhere, which I'm now checking for accuracy:

So, the question was purely about severe disability payments (added to old style ESA support group payments), and whether these were payable to claimants in receipt of mixed awards, or those in receipt of CB ESA?

As previously stated, the severe disability top up, was paid in addition to the support group component, to a claimant receiving child tax credits and ESA.

This severe top up was then stopped (as no longer payable), once the child reached an age where it was classed as the 2nd adult at the home address, & child tax credits were no longer payable either.





Presumably, tax credits would appear in the p60 boxes?

Hi There

I'm an Appointee for my son and began his UC claim last week.

Like you I suddenly discovered he was getting both IR ESA and also CB ESA but he has never worked and so I was really confused..
I asked the lady at the Job Centre who gave the usual reply of " I don't know". So not one to be beat I went digging on the internet as I just had to find out and finally I struck gold when I found the website www,mikebolton.co.uk

He is a welfare advisor and if you go to the 'news and advice' section and scroll down it says 'How can you get contribution based ESA if you've never worked. It's an absolute eye-opener and explains it all in detail

There is so much confusion around this subject of CB ESA and so many people, like ourselves, are only finding out because of the transfer ESA to UC

Mikes' website will tell you all you need to understand what has happened

I hope I've been of some help to you

Take care now

Hi There

www'mikebolton.co.uk

Mike is a welfare advisor and he explains the CB ESA problem and it's a real eye-opener

Go to the 'news and advice' section and scroll down and low and behold you will find the answer

hope it can help

Take care now

Here we are:

Mike Bolton, Welfare Rights Expert, explains in detail:

'...How can you be getting contributory-ESA if you’ve never worked?
When I was a young man, there was a benefit called Housewives’-Non-Contributory-Invalidity-Pension.

It was for women whose health difficulties or disabilities meant that they could no longer perform their domestic duties.

It might sound archaic, quaint and somewhat sexist; but it had a good point.

HNCIP allowed non-working-married-women an independent-income, in their own-right, if they became ill or disabled.

Regardless of their husband’s income.

Later, HNCIP mutated into Severe Disablement Allowance.

This was for people who has an 80% disablement, or for people whose illness or disability began when they were young.

Once again, there was no need for a national-insurance record, so housewives could claim, and so could people with childhood-onward disabilities.

A few years later, SDA morphed into Incapacity Benefit, which later became contributory-Employment and Support Allowance.

But the same thing applied.

You could get them, even without a national-insurance record, if your illness or disability began when you were young.

Then, on 1 May 2012 the incapacity-in-youth rule was scrapped.

Why am I going on about this?

Today, Tracy got in touch to ask about her client, Roger’s, benefits situation.

Roger is getting new-style-contributory-ESA along with his Universal Credit.

But he has a learning disability and has never worked.

So, how could he be getting contributory-ESA?

Well, here’s the answer:

He got the new-style-contributory-ESA when he was migrated from old-style-ESA last year …

… and he got the old-style-contributory-ESA when he was migrated from incapacity-benefit …

… … and he got the incapacity benefit when he was migrated from severe-disablement-allowance …

… … … and he got the severe-disablement-allowance back in 1991, when he left school at the age of 18.

And that’s how-come you will meet people who have never worked, who get contributory-ESA.

Their illness or disability began before they were aged 25 and they claimed before 1 May 2012.

© 2025 - Mike Bolton


CB ESA even if you've never worked