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1 day 12 hours ago #309405 by Bess Le Boo
PIP Review 0 points scored - gearing up for MR was created by Bess Le Boo
My partner has just had her PIP review letter, scored zero points on everything, was previously getting standard rates for daily living and mobility. So we’re gearing up for mandatory reconsideration.
Very disappointed with the reasons given, determined that as not under care of community mental health team and mental health and meds are managed by GP, then condition is managed.
Prescribed variety of pain meds for frozen shoulder and carpal tunnel, but as not under a pain clinic, it’s not been considered.
We stated in the PIP review all the difficulties remain with some new ones. Gave evidence of new difficulties and reports where possible. We have recently moved to a new GP and health authority, so are waiting for referrals.
Feels like as we don’t have a recent report by a medical professional that says she needs help managing her medication, cannot wash her hair on her own etc we are not believed.
My understanding is that PIP is based on tasks that disabled people can or can’t do, not what a medical professional states, in my experience a medical professional report will confirm diagnosis and confirm treatment. Please let me know if I’m missing something.
Also, does anyone have any insight, advice, guidance on how the DWP decide how long a PIP award will last? I don’t think we can keep doing this every 3 years.
Very disappointed with the reasons given, determined that as not under care of community mental health team and mental health and meds are managed by GP, then condition is managed.
Prescribed variety of pain meds for frozen shoulder and carpal tunnel, but as not under a pain clinic, it’s not been considered.
We stated in the PIP review all the difficulties remain with some new ones. Gave evidence of new difficulties and reports where possible. We have recently moved to a new GP and health authority, so are waiting for referrals.
Feels like as we don’t have a recent report by a medical professional that says she needs help managing her medication, cannot wash her hair on her own etc we are not believed.
My understanding is that PIP is based on tasks that disabled people can or can’t do, not what a medical professional states, in my experience a medical professional report will confirm diagnosis and confirm treatment. Please let me know if I’m missing something.
Also, does anyone have any insight, advice, guidance on how the DWP decide how long a PIP award will last? I don’t think we can keep doing this every 3 years.
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Hi Bess Le Boo
I'm sorry your partner didn't get the decision she wanted. You need to contact the DWP and ask for a copy of the PA4 assessment report. Hopefully, the report will give you more details of why her award was removed and you will have more idea how you can try and counter their arguments.
There is a shortage of mental health support across the entire country - so not being under the local CMHT proves nothing. Same for the pain clinic. Many people get referred then they get discharged - that's how it works. A relative of mine was discharged and told to return to the pain clinic in five years' time because there was nothing they could currently do - they were still in pain! So when you write your letter, put in a couple of sentences about the lack of services.
Many claimants don't have recent evidence - so you just have to fight with what you have. You say that you have some. Make sure that you link your comments to the particular reports that you have - otherwise, assessors tend not to join up the dots.
Make sure that you have read page 17 of the Guide to PIP Claims and Reviews - re the 'Reliability' criteria. Many claimants miss this out in their evidence and it's really important to putting forward an argument.
I can't pretend that the DWP doesn't have a thing about the dose of medication people are taking because they do, and they use it to try and judge how much pain a person is in and what, in their opinion, a claimant should or shouldn't be able to do. It is just an 'opinion'.
Re the length of the award. Award lengths have shortened. The shortest is six months and the longest ten years. Many cliamants are disappointed by the length of their awards. Even when people have long term conditions - the DWP often takes a view that there may be an improvement in a person's condition. With the things that you have mentioned - carpal tunnel and frozen shoulder - there may be improvements, and possibly for mental health difficulties. (I'm not passing judgment - I'm only saying how the DWP thinks). Couple that with no recent contact with services, and they nearly always go for a shorter award length.
BIS
I'm sorry your partner didn't get the decision she wanted. You need to contact the DWP and ask for a copy of the PA4 assessment report. Hopefully, the report will give you more details of why her award was removed and you will have more idea how you can try and counter their arguments.
There is a shortage of mental health support across the entire country - so not being under the local CMHT proves nothing. Same for the pain clinic. Many people get referred then they get discharged - that's how it works. A relative of mine was discharged and told to return to the pain clinic in five years' time because there was nothing they could currently do - they were still in pain! So when you write your letter, put in a couple of sentences about the lack of services.
Many claimants don't have recent evidence - so you just have to fight with what you have. You say that you have some. Make sure that you link your comments to the particular reports that you have - otherwise, assessors tend not to join up the dots.
Make sure that you have read page 17 of the Guide to PIP Claims and Reviews - re the 'Reliability' criteria. Many claimants miss this out in their evidence and it's really important to putting forward an argument.
I can't pretend that the DWP doesn't have a thing about the dose of medication people are taking because they do, and they use it to try and judge how much pain a person is in and what, in their opinion, a claimant should or shouldn't be able to do. It is just an 'opinion'.
Re the length of the award. Award lengths have shortened. The shortest is six months and the longest ten years. Many cliamants are disappointed by the length of their awards. Even when people have long term conditions - the DWP often takes a view that there may be an improvement in a person's condition. With the things that you have mentioned - carpal tunnel and frozen shoulder - there may be improvements, and possibly for mental health difficulties. (I'm not passing judgment - I'm only saying how the DWP thinks). Couple that with no recent contact with services, and they nearly always go for a shorter award length.
BIS
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