The proposed Green Paper changes are supposed to be all about getting people into employment.  But as a number of claimants living with multiple sclerosis (MS) told the Benefits and Work PIP survey, cuts to personal independence payment (PIP) will have exactly the opposite effect – it will cost them their jobs.

Rachel, aged 45, says she “would lose £290 pounds a month which has helped me to drop down to 4 days a week as a social worker. I’m desperate to stay in my job but if PIP is taken away as I don’t get higher than 2’s in the categories I would have to go up to full time and I would not be able to cope with that. These changes are effectively going to force me out of a job I love.”

Jack, aged 58, feels “Shocked angry and totally let down by labour.my pip allows me to get taxis to work.if I lose my pip.and my carers .I will have to leave work as I will not be able to afford to get there. So this will have a totally negative effect not only on our income .but my condition.and my employment”

Laura, aged 59, says “pip helps me access work as it pays for incontinence products etc and part time work helps me manage health issues. . . I've worked full time from the age of 18 until 59 and I am been made to feel " lazy" , less than etc as, through no fault of my own, my body has failed me.”

FizzyFeet, aged 69, is no longer employed, but know how vital PIP was to keep her in work:  “I did work when I was on PIP when younger and the car I had enabled me to get to work. Then I was reassessed and they took my car away in 2018! If they want the disabled to work then PIP is an access to work benefit in itself. Are they all stupid in the Labour Government!.”

For other respondents living with MS, work has ceased to be an option even though they don’t score any 4 point descriptors and so, in Labour’s view should be working.

Neuro Gal aged 55-60 said “I can’t leave my house, hold a pen, get hold of a sheet of paper, and have to use talk to type software. The most basic personal hygiene and care tasks are difficult to impossible depending on the day. I couldn’t get to an interview let alone work after 30+ years battling progressive MS.”

Beth, aged 29, is living with both MS and borderline personality disorder, amongst other conditions.  Beth explains “I am not able to work. I can’t make it through a day without needing a nap due to pain and fatigue. I will end up sanctioned on uc due to not being able to attend appointments that need to be attended my life won’t be worth living. I’m terrified and seriously contemplating suicide if these go through. I will have no quality of life no independence I won’t be able to maintain my wheelchair due to benefits being cut so will end up bed bound.”

Pearl, aged 57, lives with both MS and autism amongst other conditions. Pearl told us “One of the most disabling issues of MS for me has been loss of bladder control. My brain and bladder no long communicate and I am reliant on catheters and adult nappies. I don't know when I need to pee, and I can neither start nor stop urination at will. This makes leaving the house particularly difficult, and I have more than once had to get home via public transport having very obviously wet myself, which was humiliating. . . The thought of going back to a life of constant fear and worry, is today the day they will fire me, how will I pay my bills when they do, etc, fills me with existential dread”

CatherineS2, aged 64, said “Having had MS for 25 years, in the past 3 years my illness has rapidly progressed from relapsing-remitting to secondary progressive and I cannot now walk without the aid of 2 sticks, even in my small two bedroom flat.  One of the symptoms of MS is extreme debilitating fatigue, so whenever I try to do anything physically I have to subsequently rest for at least 30-60 minutes before resuming anything. . . No employer would take me on because I will not be able to guarantee to be able to turn up or submit any work on a reliable basis, and working would only exacerbate my fatigue. . .  One of the symptoms of MS is incontinence. I would not score 4 points on this because I do not soil myself because I use incontinence pants which I pay for with my DLA/PIP.”  CatherineS2 spends £72 a month of her benefits on Boots own brand pads.

In all, 14 claimants living with MS completed the survey, out of a total of 550.  Only 1.5% of PIP claimants have MS as their primary condition according to the DWP, so it is notable that they are over represented here.

The symptoms these respondents describe are certainly not ones that "small interventions” or “aids and appliances” could relieve, as DWP minister Stephen Timms suggests.

Nor will support from a work coach help those who have had to stop work return, as Rachel Reeves claims.

And we don’t believe any of these respondents are “taking the mickey”, regardless of what Liz Kendall thinks.

Yet it is clear that a very significant number of people living with MS do not score 4 points or higher for any activity and so will lose their PIP daily living component on review after November 2026.

Perhaps you could write to your MP and ask them if they will really be voting to take PIP away from claimants with a debilitating and progressive condition like MS and, if so, why on earth they think it is a good idea?

You can read more about how we carried out our survey here

You can search our survey results by keyword, including health conditions and you or your organisation is welcome to carry out your own research using the survey results.

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    · 5 hours ago
    I'm Charlie, Senior Policy Officer at the MS Society, covering the financial security brief. We really appreciate Benefits and Work specifically covering the challenges our community is facing with these harmful proposals!

    The MS Society is planning for is own survey of the MS community to go live  on the 15th April. This will primarily seek to understand how people living with MS may be affected by the PIP 4 point rule change and also gauge people’s feelings about the government's plans overall. The findings will be used to inform the MS Society’s policy submission to the green paper consultation as well as our wider campaigning, influencing and press activity to push back against the cuts. 

    So if you're a person living with MS, or know someone who is, please do keep an eye on the MS Society's social media around the 25th April onwards, as we will be sharing a link to our survey!
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    · 8 hours ago
    This story is from The London Economic and was posted late last night.  I wonder if things are moving a little bit in our favour?  Or am I the only optimist?  I really hope not!

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/more-labour-mps-increase-pressure-on-keir-starmer-to-tax-wealth-over-disability-cuts-amid-rebellion-fears-391999/

    For those following the letter to Stephen Timms, we have just hit 1000 reposts on X, and 41,000 views.  
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    · 11 hours ago
    Do you think it would be ok to forward the link to the appropriate all parliamentary parties for them to see? 
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    · 11 hours ago
    i hope your satisfied Starmer, kendall. reeves etc!. absolutely disgraceful
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      · 3 hours ago
      @pink shabba ranks Yes! What is wrong with them - so sad to read these stories. They are taking away the ability of so many to work and participate in society. I don’t think they realise how isolating it is to be disabled and how frightening to be dependent on the whims of government. 
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    · 12 hours ago
    I think we know who really is taking the mickey.

    When Rachel Reeves was offensively comparing welfare payments to pocket money she said

    "But if they do go and get themselves a Saturday job, they'll probably be better off and they probably might enjoy it as well."

    It's not the patronising comparison or the suggestion of what we might find enjoyable that is most offensive, it's the blithe assertion that "they'll probably be better off as well", which lays bare her ignorance of how people use pip to facilitate and fund their access to work and also how deductions from income trap us when we are on means tested benefits. No, Rachel, we probably, in fact, likely, would NOT be better off, and possibly, in fact, probably, would be worse off.

    That the green paper proposals are inhumane is recognised by many, but their sheer unworkability and the negligent lack of diligence in gaining an understanding of how the welfare system operates should be exposed. Reeves and Kendall are simply unqualified to make decisions on this scale and too arrogant to do the hard yards and research the subject.

    And "probably might" is definitely maybe a stupid thing to say.
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      · 6 hours ago
      @robbie owning a multi million pound property in Londons very expensive notting hill area whilst shamelessly claiming three grand a year in energy expenses....i think we all know who's "taking the mickey" Liz!
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    · 13 hours ago
    I’ve forwarded the link to the completed B&W surveys to Carers Uk who are urgently preparing a campaign against these reforms and they have said the surveys will be incredibly useful. It might be an idea for others to forward this link to their social media or other campaigns you know of too (although B&W might have already done this). Link to copy and paste below:
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    · 15 hours ago
    B&W, your analysis spells out in stark black
    and  white the stupidity and brutality of the government’s plans. I’m keeping the pressure on my MP and wherever else I can. Thanks for giving us the information we need to send their way. As far as I can,  I’m not going to let their consciences get away with this. 
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    · 15 hours ago
    Labour have become even nastier than the Tories, so much so that I've dubbed them the Neo-Nasties.

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