One of the major issues with the Pathways to Work Green paper is the number of questions it leaves unanswered.  But now, with the government’s hastily created “concessions”, things are even more unclear.  Especially whether the concessions mean current claimants are permanently protected or have just been granted a temporary reprieve.

Below are a number of questions, some of which you might want to ask your MP before Tuesday’s vote, because they should be clear what they are voting for.  Or you may have others you want to ask.  The important thing is to keep reminding MPs that there is still the option of voting to scrap the bill on Tuesday, regardless of any concessions offered.

But do bear in mind that many Labour MPs who signed the amendment have said they are still going to vote against the bill, as will many opposition MPs, so your MP may still be an ally.

In her letter to Labour MPs Liz Kendall writes: “Therefore, we will ensure that all of those currently receiving Pip will stay within the current system. The new eligibility requirements will be implemented from November 2026 for new claims only.”

This implies that current claimants will not be protected from the results of the ministerial review of the PIP assessment, due to make changes to PIP eligibility criteria in 2028.  Given that the governments overriding concern is to halt the rising cost of disability benefits, the review can only result in a tightening of eligibility criteria – quite possibly including retaining the four-point rule .  So, this concession may be no more than a short reprieve for current claimants.

Q.  Will existing PIP claimants stay on the current test for life or be subject to the new criteria created by the ministerial review of the PIP assessment, to be completed in 2028?

Many thousands of adult DLA claimants are still waiting to be reassessed for PIP through no fault of their own.  If things had run to the original timetable they would by now be PIP claimants and protected from the 4-point rule.

Q. If current adult DLA claimants, awaiting reassessment for PIP for many years, are finally dealt with after November 2026 will they be assessed under the current rules or the new 4-point rules?

Kendall writes “. . . we will adjust the pathway of universal credit payment rates to make sure all existing recipients of the UC health element . . . have their incomes fully protected in real terms.”

How long does this protection last? 

Q. Around 600,000 current UC health element claimants do not receive an award of the PIP daily living component.  When the WCA is abolished in 2028  and receipt of PIP daily living becomes the qualifying criteria for UC health element, will they continue to have their income protected?  Or is the protection only temporary?

If your MP is one of the Labour rebels, they may be considering withdrawing their name form the amendment, as a number have already said they will.

Q  If you are considering withdrawing your name from the reasoned amendment, does this mean that you are resigned to many thousands of future claimants being plunged into poverty, even though you think it is wrong for current claimants?

Kendall writes in relation to the review of PIP assessment criteria: “At the heart of this review will be coproduction with disabled people, the organisations that represent them, and MPs so their views and voices are heard.”

Q.  If it’s important that the views and voices of disabled people are heard in respect of future changes, why are their voices not important in relation to the enormous changes in the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill?

Q.  If the main aim of the government is to put disability benefits on what they view as a sustainable footing, by cutting the rise in costs considerably, what possibility is there of disabled people genuinely being listened to as PIP criteria are rewritten?

Q.  The PIP  four-point rule does not come into effect until November 2026, almost a year and a half away.  So why is it so important to get the legislation through the Commons in the next two weeks, without consulting on it?

Q.  Given that there are so many unanswered questions about the proposed reforms, and that the government is already going to have to find £3bn to fund their concessions, would it not be wiser to scrap the whole Green Paper process and start again in genuine coproduction with disabled people?

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    · 17 days ago
    An observation relating to the DWP's response - 
    I fail to see how it is legal. One only has to look at the information sent by the DWP to recipients in their yearly letters about the migration. "If you are already over age 16 you will be invited to claim PIP at some point in the future" Nothing about 'voluntarily' applying. 
    More likely, they hadn't even thought about current DLA recipients  until sensible people started to raise it. So, based on their own response, it would seem that the DWP are admitting that their incompetence at failing to complete the migration of benefits will knowingly penalise thousands of people who still receive DLA through no fault of their own, whilst also implying it is the fault of the recipient because they could apply for PIP voluntarily, even though they have consistently been told that they will be "invited to claim for it at some point in the future." Er? What a complete mess this so called welfare reform is. I hope someone sees this as the basis for a legal challenge.
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    · 18 days ago
    With the rush to push it through I am wondering if they’ve got some contract dud to start then or made an agreement with companies who have a financial stake in it. The frantic rush for something so important is really weird.
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    · 18 days ago
    Urgent News!
    An amendment to my previous post regarding DLA. I posed the questions on Andrew Sparrow's (Guardian) blog on Friday. This is what he has now (rather worryingly) been told -

    "On Friday a reader asked how the Pip concessions announced at the end of last week would affect people receiving DLA (the disability living allowance). Pip replaces DLA, the predecessor benefit for disabled people to help them with extra costs they face because of their disability, but some claimants are still on DLA, which can also be claimed by under-16s, and have not transferred over.

    By the time the blog closed on Friday, I still had not had a reply from the Department for Work and Pensions.

    But the DWP subsequently came back to say that people moving from DLA to Pip would count as new claimants. They also said they were considering how new eligibility rules for Pip would affect adults moving to Pip from DLA and further information would be published in due course.

    The DWP also pointed out that people getting DLA can voluntary apply to transfer to Pip at any time (implying that people worried about missing out should move across to Pip before the new criteria are due to come into force, in November 2026.)"

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    · 18 days ago
    The issues relating to DLA recipients was one of my first concerns. This is the message I sent to Richard Quigley. He is not 'my' MP because I live on the other side of the Isle of Wight but I did receive a message saying that he would take onboard my concerns. 'My' conservative MP has not bothered to respond to me.
    "I was heartened to see that Mr Quigley had signed the amendment to the proposed bill but the recent announcements/'concessions' are still a real concern, particularly for people (and children) who still receive DLA. The people who still receive DLA are consistently told (since 2013) that they will be 'invited' to claim PIP when the DWP contacts them about doing so. However, if that does not happen before the proposed new rules of November 2026, will those current DLA recipients (including children) be assessed under the new rules or the current ones? It would seem grossly unfair and quite possibly illegal, to subject someone to 'new rules for entitlement' quite simply because of the DWP's incompetence regarding the migration of benefits. There are too many details left out of these so called concessions and I respectfully request that Mr Quigley does not vote for something that is still not clear as to how it will work or without any published consultations. In my view, the vote should be postponed until all the facts are published."
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    · 18 days ago
    I wrote this to my MP

    Integrity and courage is what leaders should be made of. You hold disabled peoples future in your hands, Marie. It's a valuable future. Believe me. Don't destroy it! Protect it. Embrace it. It's gonna make you proud one day -- I promise you.
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    · 18 days ago
    Unfortunately, once hit review stage your reassessment is the newer model. Any issue will result in making a new claim ( accidentally on purpose) ! In addition this amendment hasn’t been added to the bill to be voted on . It’s only been suggested to add it at “ committee stage” so in effect all MPs are voting on its original state! It’s easily then omitted and legally the original is evidence of what was voted on ! The spin and desperation to rush this through is extreme! 
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    · 18 days ago
    Will the people on PIP now still be assessed under the old rule if their review is after November 2026? I am 67 years old and I have a 6 year PIP award due for review in 2029.  I am paid at standard rate for both components. I use all of my PIP money for carers, cleaners, and food deliveries….I could not manage without it. My Dr has told me I should apply for a review to get a higher rate, but I am afraid to do in case I lose everything!
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      · 16 days ago
      @Julietta Juliette
      I appreciate your plight. The support and insights offered by this site might assist you in making a powerful claim for a higher rate. It’s certainly worth checking things out. I’m 76 and on higher rate for both. Without this I would not manage to purchase all the things I need for basic survival. My MP is not supportive so no support there. My last Labour MP was brilliant. Have you been seen recently by an OT or physio? Their assistance is often invaluable. Good wishes for whatever you decide 
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    · 18 days ago
    I wrote to my MP detailing my concerns and suggestions for the criteria to be more relevant and inclusive. I received a stock reply detailing all the bumph that is already out there. Clearly he is not in support of the beneficiaries of PIP regardless of age. The first time I wrote I did not get an acknowledgment only a request to confirm I was a constituent. 
    Disappointing but he at least has indicated where he stands on the issue. 
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    · 19 days ago
    Sign petition if you want to. Lives depend on this literally. 
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    · 20 days ago
    I've shared this with a few local MPs near me. Just one replied rather quickly stating they're voting against the bill as before. Gives you a feeling of you fought back receiving a personal reply.
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      · 19 days ago
      @Dee Yes it does. Anyone who is able to should do everything that they can. This is for all of us. If everyone thought , oh well my email, phone call, message whatever won't make a difference, nothing would happen. Every voice, every vote every anything makes a difference. So please everyone do what you can or have other people advocate on your behalf. It does make a difference. Besides, what's there to lose? A lot if we get despondent and do nothing.
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    · 20 days ago
    An excellent example of the reality of how hard applying for PIP is, and another brave MP who deserves our praise and gratitude. It seems like they are gradually realising as each hour passes that if you take a cruel, terrible bill and make it 30% less awful, it is still terrible and cruel. I really hope Starmer's rather desperate attempt to rush through a whitewash fails, as it should.

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    · 20 days ago
    I am extremely concerned about the move from legacy benefits to UC.

    Can anyone explain why this was necessary, aside from the cuts?

    It seems it's purpose is to suit the government data etc, rather than being beneficial to disabled, since it was always an option for disabled people to seek employment should it be possible.  The migration process is a mess and btw what is happening to the 20 million pounds contract to, assist, people to change to UC?  Paid to CAB.


    The neurodivergent have been hit hard by the levels of anxiety triggered by this procedure and it's looking very unreasonable.  For example, and not to generalise,

    anxiety in the autistic adult is nothing like anxiety non autism people experience, and it is dangerous to misunderstand it.

    This does not mean every autistic person however MPs and DWP need to consider real lives.  It is clear they have little or no knowledge of population lives.
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      · 18 days ago
      @rosemary60 Should have mentioned there is transitional protection for those whose UC including any housing element is less than their ESA + any housing benefit. 
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      · 18 days ago
      @Dannan UC LCWRA is about £120 a month more than ESA LCWRA
      But is about £240 a month less than ESA LCWRA + SDP
      So there are winners and losers in the move from ESA to UC.

      There are also issues as far as how different local authority council tax reduction schemes treat people on UC vs ESA. Resulting in some getting less council tax reduction.

      And differences in UC housing element vs housing benefit. As far as local authority discretion on the under occupancy penalty for Social housing tenants who are not on PIP, and if adult children who are full time students are treated as a non dependants living at the address.

      And there is the issue of housing element being paid by default to the claimant monthly in arrears with the first payment 5 weeks after the claim starts. And housing benefit being paid 2 weekly or 4 weekly in arrears often directly to the landlord. 
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      · 18 days ago
      @rosemary60 It is all about cuts.

      Income Related ESA is (was) very generous compared to Universal Credit. As were many legacy benefits, such as Tax Credits.

      Moreover, turning all the separate benefits into one benefit saves costs on administration.

      CAB has a dedicated service called Help To Claim to assist with Managed Migration. They can be very good but unfortunately there is no face to face service - only telephone and webchat. DWP didn't want to fund for face-to-face. There are also limits to what they can do. They can help solve problems and rectify mistakes, but if UC are making errors (such as with LCWRA), then the CAB service cannot do much. All they can do is ask UC nicely to hurry up fixing it. They have no power or authority.

      DWP also have the Managed Migration helpline who have slightly more power to get things done, but will not provide advice to protect your position like CAB will do.

      I am also autistic. No one really cares about our anxiety over things.
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    · 20 days ago
    Breaking on radio 4 news, UNITE calling the new concessions 'divisive and sinister'.
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    · 20 days ago
    Starmer ,Reeves ,Kendall  & Timms need to resign with immediate effect they and each one of them are incompetent running office and just maybe and only maybe the Labour Party might actually achieve something after a year of being in Government therefore, we must never forget what they have put us through in the last three months.
    Until another day we have to fight for what we are as individuals real people as I like to say…
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    · 20 days ago
    I've copied and paste these questions to my MP too. He never votes against the government but I've done my best these past few weeks in sending emails, and having a long conversation on the phone.

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    · 20 days ago
    Some 'rebels' are reported to have been swayed by government duplicity, but in Montgomeryshire and Glyndŵr we're on to it!

    Steve Witherden, on facebook - thought at first he'd rolled over, but no, look

    "Speaking to BBC Radio Wales this morning, I welcomed the government’s decision to listen to the deep and sustained concerns from backbenchers, including myself, who had stated they could not vote for a bill that would arbitrarily take away support from many disabled people.
    The government has now said the new rules will no longer affect people currently claiming PIP, but that they will apply to people claiming from November 2026, meaning those who apply after that date will not necessarily be eligible for the same level of support.
    This will mean people who become disabled after that point will be treated differently to those already claiming. This is systematically unfair, and as such, I still cannot vote for the bill when it comes before the House on Tuesday."

    From the constituents' replies which can be read under his post, there's still plenty of rebel spirit.

    Gwaith da Steve, mor falch ohonoch chi!
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    · 20 days ago
    This may be helpful in the independent Initially, Labour had pledged to give transitional protection to any claimant who was reassessed and found ineligible for the benefit because of the changes. This meant they were guaranteed the same payment rate for 13 weeks.

    Ms Kendall has now confirmed that all existing claimants will not be subject to the new criteria. While they will still be subject to reassessment – happening every three years on average – they will not have the requirement to score four points in a single category.
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    · 20 days ago
    Might be me I see existing LWCRA claimants will keep their support within UC but haven't seen this applies to my 29 year old daughter... the current government are the most sly and untrustworthy yet in my opinion.

    It will take tume but I can't see treating new disability claimants different to existing will be deemed lawful in court 
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      · 18 days ago
      @DW 2 tier is how it has been for over 15 years now. Its the only fair way to make cuts. Clearly not what Starmer wanted to do. Starmers view was to cut everyones disability Benefits and not just new claiments. The last time that this was done was in 2017 for the LCW. Current claimants got to keep their nearly £200p/m whilst new claiments from there on got nothing. Diane Abbot and others speaking about it on BBC Newsnight a few days ago. Fight for the detail on current claimants but future cuts must hit future claimants.
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      · 20 days ago
      @DW I should have said 19 year old daughter... 
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    · 20 days ago
    To add how is it we are protected then as current claims are anyway until you are reviewed the govt are lying under the 4 point rules. 

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