The Timms review appears to be paralysed by a set of impossible choices and remains unable to even decide how to appoint members to the panel, a letter to the Commons Work and Pensions Committee (WPC) has revealed.

Back on 13 September, we told readers that the WPC had written to Stephen Timms asking to be told, amongst other things:

  • What the arrangements were for the co-production of the Timms review?
  • Who would be involved in the Timms review and would they influence its terms of reference?
  • Would there be cuts to the overall PIP budget as a result of the review?

The committee asked for a response by 17 September and, at the time, we predicted that the answer would be late, dismissive and would contain almost no concrete information at all. 

Well, to be fair, Timm’s reply was polite rather than dismissive.

But it was two weeks late and, as predicted, extraordinarily lacking in details.

Instead, Timms explained that he had met with disability and welfare charities, think tanks and other experts over the summer to consider how the review could best be co-produced and that  “the Government is currently working through the feedback received”. 

Timms did confirm again, that the review would be “led by  a core group of around a dozen people, the majority of whom will be disabled.”

He did not say whether the panel would have any influence over its terms of reference, which have already been set out.  Instead, he merely said the panel would “decide how they will operate, including how to ensure wide and meaningful engagement beyond the steering group itself”.

But deciding how you will operate is not the same as deciding what issues you will look at and what your objectives will be.

Timms also refused to be drawn on whether the review would reduce PIP spending, saying only that there is no “fixed set of outcomes”.

In fact, as we have noted before, Timms appears to be in an impossible situation.  The abandoned PIP 4-point rule was supposed to have imposed massive cuts to PIP eligibility before the Timms review even began.  In which case, there would have been no need for the review to impose further major cuts.

And there was never any serious intention for the Timms review to be co-produced, until this concession also had to be made to get the government’s welfare changes through parliament.

But now the Timms review appears to be Labour’s last chance to try to impose cuts to PIP under the cover of modernisation.

However, if the review is genuinely co-produced by independently appointed disabled people, it’s more likely to propose extending eligibility to PIP rather than cutting it.

On the other hand, if the panel is clearly packed with government stooges who recommend cuts to PIP, Labour is likely to face another backbench rebellion.

So, the review is stalled before it even begins, whilst Timms desperately tries to find a way forward.

Even the option of simply dragging the review out until it is all but forgotten is problematic.

In the very near future the government will publish a White Paper.  This will include details of how and when the work capability assessment will be abolished. Eligibility for the universal credit health component will then be dependent upon getting the daily living component of PIP.

But this whole concept was based on the expectation that the PIP 4 point rule would drastically cut the numbers entitled to PIP daily living.

If PIP daily living is left as its, then this will have a knock-on effect on the numbers who will get UC health.

So, the government has put itself in what appears to be an impossible position and, here at Benefits and Work, we have no idea how they will get themselves out of it.

Nor we suspect, does anyone in government.  And so, the Timms review paralysis continues.

You can download a copy of the Timms letter to the WPC from this page.

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    · 9 hours ago
    I expect they will enact the Centre for Social Justice suggested PIP/UC reform. Removing PIP and UC health eligibility from anyone on standard rate PIP due to mental health issues who does not suffer from a severe mental illness (one with psychosis). And for those on enhanced rate PIP for mental health issues who do not suffer from a severe mental illness (one with psychosis) remove eligibility for UC health and reduce their PIP to the equivalent of standard rate. I also expect they will target ADHD.

    That would be in line with the media scapegoating and never ending dismissive rhetoric from the PM, Chancellor, Health minister, and DWP ministers, and opposition shadow cabinet, and Reform, and even the LibDems, about people with less severe mental health issues. Taking the Mickey, playing the system, Tiktok sick influencers telling them what to say, that there cannot really be that may people unable to work due to mental health, that mental health conditions are being overdiagnosed and over medicalised. People getting benefits for the normal ups and downs of life, that work is not stressful it is part of normal life, that work is good for mental health, that PIP was never intended to be for people with mental health conditions, that PIP is intended for the additional costs of disability and do those with mental health conditions really have additional costs, and so on.

    The tagetting of the group has been deliberate and persistent. The narrative has been set, the lies repeated by politicians and the media as facts. I cannot see them doing a 180 degree turn and not target them. 
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    · 9 hours ago
    Another rearrangement of the deckchairs on the Titanic springs to mind. It’s good to see that Timms is possibly realising just how complex this issue is. Whilst is it of course good for disabled people to be involved in the process, in reality, only the most functional and able will be able to do so. Charities are essential in the process. There are so many reasons for a person to be disabled, both mentally and physically and the challenge for Government is in how to measure and quantify that. The same condition does not affect different people in the same way. Add in to that other conditions, all of which affect sufferers in varying ways and it becomes a very complex situation. I do agree that change needs to happen. But it needs to be done with fairness and dignity at the heart of it and not because the country needs to save money. In addition to this, boosting mental health services and physical health services to ensure people get treated quickly, may enable many to recover some of all of their abilities and thus avoid needing to claim and thus keeping the budget for the more seriously affected. I can’t see Government being patient enough to wait for a proper and fair Timms Review because to do this properly will take longer than the remaining Parliament.
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    · 9 hours ago
    I wish they'd leave welfare alone, we have enough to deal with just getting by from day to day as it is. I'm hoping that at least things wont really kick in until 2029/30 when potentially a.new government could likely be sworn in. God help us if it's reform, the Tories are bad enough but.......
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    · 9 hours ago
    Thers some news about cuts to mobility scheme coming soon I lost the link was budget news
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    · 10 hours ago
    Rachel Reeves is saying Welfare has got to be tackled by the end of the Parliament.
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Denby Wasn't she referring primarily to the motability side of the pip benefit concerning that.? I hope that's as far as she goes with it but I doubt it......gulp....( stop shaking)
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    · 11 hours ago
    There pay should be cut to 1k a week, no heating allowance of 3.5k, and all other allowances cut aswell.

    As that is what they want of us.
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    · 12 hours ago
    Meanwhile, this is also going on...

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    · 13 hours ago
    All I would say is that there is increased speculation that Reeves (who ultimately is in charge of the Timms review) will announce at the Budget both tax increases AND cuts, primarily welfare. The three options I have seen mentioned are: the pension triple lock, disability/sickness benefits, or SEND provision, none of which are going to be popular.  The Timms review may very well be abandoned anyway and further cuts (eg, freezing of benefits) may be contained in a money bill.  Until November 26th we don't really have a clue what will happen to PIP under this Government but may have a better idea thereafter.
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      · 12 hours ago
      @Matt
      "The Timms review may very well be abandoned anyway and further cuts (eg, freezing of benefits) may be contained in a money bill."

      I don't know if the Timms review will be officially abandoned, but I can certainly see them runnng into insurmountable difficulties when Labour MPs realise that conflating PIP with out of work sickness benefits would plunge a hell of a lot of people into poverty. It also means that once the WCA is gone there will be no incapacity for work test anywhere in the system, so if someone is unable to work there will be no way for them to prove it. The PIP test can't be used for that purpose because PIP isn't an incapacity benefit, it's a disability benefit. Once the consequences of conflating PIP with UC Health become clear to Labour MPs - not least through being swamped with terrified constituents - there will almost certainly be another major rebellion, especially if Labour has suffered a thumping at the May 2026 elections by then.
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    · 15 hours ago
    I've just seen on X from the times that in the budget Rachel thieves is targeting mobility with tax breaks worth £1billion a year set to be scrapped in the budget, dramatically reducing an exemption by which the cars are leased under the scheme do not have to pay VAT or insurance premium. Disability charities have said this will restrict disabled people from going out 

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    · 15 hours ago
    And it couldn't have happened to a nicer man. 
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    · 15 hours ago
    How are ten disabled people supposed to represent all the issues that affect people with all manner of disabilities? And how is a group of disabled people with the ability to engage in such a process going to be able to provide any insight into PIP for people with severe MH problems, whi by their very nature if sever enough to warrant PIP DL will likely preclude their ability to represent themselves in this review. We know we are among the first on the chopping block, who is going to represent us? They talk about replacing money with talking therapies, well apart from that being a ridiculous suggestion in itself, how does that work for those of us who have had all the treatment we can have and still have high levels of disability? Many severe MH problems are lifelong, complex and sometimes treatment resistant. It feels worryingly like they might try to buy into the idea that all people with severe MH need to do is to engage with a positive mental attitude and we'll magically be well. It doesn't work like that. We need PIP to pay our rent, to eat, to travel and to get care, just like physically disabled people. A six week course of CBT is not going to replace PIP.
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    · 18 hours ago
    They really need to establish pip eligibility criteria before abolishing wca or things will get even more messy. To connect pip to assessing capability for work is completely contradictory anyway, so this whole venture is based on unsound reasoning, where disabled and income replacement benefits are conflated.

    I think at the root of much of the failed attempt at welfare reform is trying to streamline things and have a uniform (universal) approach. Duncan-Smith thought universal credit would be the magic simplification of benefits, but there isn't a one size fits all solution to poverty, just as there is not one reason for it, and trying to impose one will always leave out those for whom there is no fit.

    It might have seemed too complex having so many different awards, but uc is universal in name only - it's fractured and confusing for claimants and decision makers alike.
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      · 15 hours ago
      @keepingitreal
      "They really need to establish pip eligibility criteria before abolishing wca or things will get even more messy. To connect pip to assessing capability for work is completely contradictory anyway, so this whole venture is based on unsound reasoning, where disabled and income replacement benefits are conflated."

      Yes, most Labour MPs probably haven't grasped this yet, but when they start to see the inherent contradiction in conflating PIP with out of work sickness benefits, and how that could lead to huge numbers of people being plunged into poverty, I think the government is likely to run into real trouble. And that's before they get as far as anything that might come out of the Timms review.
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