Liz Kendall has offered three concessions to Labour rebels unhappy about the Green Paper cuts.  But will they be enough to sway a significant number of dismayed MPs?

The concessions

The Guardian reports that Kendall has offered the following to Labour rebels:

13 weeks payment of PIP for claimants who lose their award because of the 4-point rule.

The “right to work” scheme for those on health and disability benefits will be introduced at the same time as the bill.

“Non-negotiable” protections for the most vulnerable benefits recipients will be on the face of the new bill.

13 week payment

Usually, claimants who lose their award because of rule changes by the DWP might expect to receive payments for 4 weeks, after being found to be no longer eligible. 

13 weeks is more “generous” but of little practical use, as few claimants will be able to apply for other benefits or secure employment in that time.  As a concession, it seems ineffective.

Right to work scheme

The right to work scheme appears to be a reference to the idea outlined at para 126 of the Pathways to Work Green Paper that claimants can try work without worrying about losing benefits:

“. . . we will introduce legislation that guarantees that trying work will not be considered a relevant change of circumstance that will trigger a PIP award review or WCA reassessment. We will make these changes as soon as possible, so that they apply in the current system and as well as in the reformed system.”

It appears that this will be introduced in separate legislation to the bill imposing the 4-point PIP rule, but at the same time. 

This is a move that is likely to be welcomed by most MPs. But as the government had already said they would make this change “as soon as possible” it is, at best, a very minor concession.

Protections for the most vulnerable

According to the Guardian, Kendall has said there will be “non-negotiable” protections for the most vulnerable benefits recipients on the face of the welfare reform bill, when it is published next week.

Para 42 of the Green Paper explains that:

“. . . for those receiving the new reduced UC health element after April 2026, we are proposing that those with the most severe, life-long health conditions, who have no prospect of improvement and will never be able to work, will see their incomes protected through an additional premium.[  We will also guarantee that for both new and existing claims, those in this group will not need to be reassessed in future”

(Note: the additional premium will not be payable to current claimants as they will not have their LCWRA element reduced in the same way as new claimants from April 2026).  This very probably – though not definitely - means that the DWP severe conditions criteria are to be put into law. 

These are guidelines already used by the DWP to reduce the need for reassessment of universal credit claimants who have been found to have limited capability for work related activity (LCWRA) and whose condition will not improve.

How the severe conditions criteria work

A clamant has to meet one of the LCWRA criteria.  You can find a list of the criteria here.

In addition, all of the following criteria need to be met:

The level of function would always meet LCWRA.  So, conditions that vary in severity may not meet this requirement.

It must be a lifelong condition, once diagnosed.   So, conditions which might be cured by transplant/ surgery/treatments or conditions which might resolve will not meet this requirement. This should be based on currently available treatment on the NHS.

No realistic prospect of recovery of function.  So, for example, a person within the first 12 months following a significant stroke may recover function during rehabilitation, and would thus probably not be eligible.

Unambiguous condition. A recognised medical diagnosis must have been made.

If a claimant meets all these criteria they will be classed as having a severe, lifelong health condition and will not be subject to reassessment.

You can find further details of the severe conditions criteria in the WCA Handbook.

However, this provision was already set out in the Green Paper and due to be introduced by April 2026, in any case.  So it seems to be less of a concession and more of an earlier inclusion in the legislation than had been planned.

Money Bill

Putting this concession “on the face of the bill” may have one important effect, however. Elsewhere, we have discussed the possibility that Labour will seek to make its bill a money bill, meaning it cannot be altered by the House of Lords.

However, if the clearly non-financial severe conditions criteria are put in the bill, this would seem to make it less likely that this would be an option for Labour.

Will these concessions be enough?

None of these concessions affect the main issue that Labour rebels are unhappy about, the removal of the standard rate of the daily living component of PIP from hundreds of thousands of claimants.

So, it seems unlikely that many will be swayed by what are fairly token offers, especially as two of them were to be introduced anyway.

However, Kendall appears to have confirmed that the controversial bill will be published next week and so the first vote is likely to take place at the beginning of July, come what may.  (There’s more on how the bill will progress here).

So, we won’t have long to wait before we find out.

In the meantime, it might be worth letting your MP know whether these concessions will make a significant difference to your own circumstances, because it is now all about the battle for the support of potentially rebellious MPs.

As Guardian columnist Francis Ryan pointed out: “If you see briefings like this in the coming days and maybe think “I’ve heard this before”, remember that Kendall is not trying to inform the worried public - she’s trying to woo rebellious backbencher. That’s what the next few weeks are about for ministers.”

And for claimants and campaigners too.

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    · 3 hours ago
    All we can do is pray.
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    · 3 hours ago
    I don't no why they don't go back to the old methods of looking for work,in the jobs centre where the employer details were on the wall with a telephone number to call.
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      · 1 hours ago
      @Rookie Rookie I agree, but you can't go back to using a phone anymore, everything has to be done online, which personally I loathe.
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    · 4 hours ago
    Is it best that we start to become pragmatic, and perhaps encourage MPs not just to vote against, but to put forward amendments? Theoretically, the bill could be watered down in that way.

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      · 7 minutes ago
      @tintack That depends on whether mps have a backbone.  I think there is a real chance if it doesn't go through as a money bill, as the Lords seem to scrutinise these things more.  Also thar delay would allow the impact assessments to come out before the final votes.  If it goes through as a money bill, I think we are doomed - but I don't think the speaker will class it as a money bill.
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      · 12 minutes ago
      @Gingin Probably not, but there are ways to limit the damage, even if that can't help everyone.  For example, the changes could only affect new claimants, mobility PIP also gives access to UC health, add a low level third tier to daily living pip for those that don't meet the 4 point rule.  Those sorts of amendments could help many, although sadly not all.
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      · 1 hours ago
      @Slb There is still a realistic chance that it gets voted down in the Commons. I think the most important thing at the moment is to contact MPs (especially Labour MPs) to urge them to vote against. A couple of months ago the numbers were just not there to defeat the government; now they are. The pressure needs to be kept up on MPs between now and the vote. 
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      · 1 hours ago
      @Slb More suggestions.

      For those who are severely disabled for life never expected to work. The group the government wants to protect on the face of the bill from reassments. And wants to protect in cash terms from a reduction in entitlement to disability benefits.

      I suggest increasing that protection to no reduction in entitlement to disability benefits in real terms including personal allowance components. Make them exempt from the UC health element freeze and any other future benefit freezes or below inflation uprating. And as they are never expected to be able to work make them exempt from conditionality and sanctions so it is all voluntary for them.

      If the government is going to have a small group it still treats as genuine and deserving. To try and distract from the harm of the cuts. Then the least they can do is treat that small group well. And give them as much confidence that they will not be next as possible. 
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      · 2 hours ago
      @Slb I would suggest having basic claimant safeguarding procedures in the primary legislation and making the DWP have a statutory duty of care towards claimants. So if a DWP employee or subcontractors fails to follow safeguarding procedures and someone dies they can be prosecuted for gross negligence manslaughter.

      I would also suggest the UN convention on rights of persons with disabilities that the UK is signed up to being enshrined/enacted into UK law. As I hope doing so might mean if those rights are violated the government can be taken to court.

      And I would suggest having claimants fates monitored for homelessness, hospitalisations and deaths. So that any new polices causing increased harm to disabled people can be identified. 
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    · 7 hours ago
    Yorkie Bard re missing bits of posts - I've advised this and it's always worked when I've remembered to do it:

    Compose your comment
    Highlight and cut the whole thing
    Paste it back
    Post it

    Because you've cut and pasted, you could also paste it and save it elsewhere (I put mine in my email drafts), just in case you need to repost if it comes up mangled, but I don't think it will. 
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    · 7 hours ago
    If this is all about helping the disabled find and sustain so called work they can do, despite their symptoms and disabilities.
    Which is exactly what Kendall has been spouting from the offset.
    Why the big rush to cut benefits?
    If she and her government, are so genuinely and compassionately concerned about helping the disabled in to work. 
    Why not do that first?
    Surely, that would save money anyway? When we all get these miraculous and plentiful jobs out there, that that we can all do. 😒
    My mp will still vote against, she has said from the start these cuts are cruel and sadistic. 
    Which is exactly what they are and Liz Kendall knows it.


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      · 4 hours ago
      @Lpot50 Labour claims that people are taking the Mickey claiming they cannot work to get disability benefits and that the genuinely disabled are being enabled to indulge in a life of dependency rather than aspiring to work. Cut the disability benefits and far less people will claim to be disabled, and those who are genuinely disabled will get jobs.

      Remember this is Labour who back in the days of Tony Blair concluded that rough sleeping was being caused and enabled by people giving homeless beggars money and charities providing soup kitchens and blankets. That removing that support would result in less people choosing to be rough sleepers, and current rough sleepers choosing to get jobs and get homes.

      I think too many Labour MPs think life is easy. That they either made it in life and think that if they can anyone can, that all it needs is a bit of get up and go and self discipline, not luck. Or they were born into a life of advantages they fail to realize or underplay the significance of. So they victim blame the less fortunate and think being cruel to be kind is the way to go with them. 
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    · 8 hours ago
     I am in the LCWRA group in UC. I get PIP but didn't score 4 points in any descriptor. I received an email from UC saying I had a message in my journal and needed to log in to read it . I have copied and pasted (with town blocked below in the message) that I received. I have never received any messages about jobs before!

    "Group Journal message – Please ignore if not relevant to you

    Check out the latest job opportunities currently available at ******* Jobcentre.
    If any of these roles interest you, or if you'd like more information, please send us a Journal
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    · 17 hours ago
    This site is rammed with great comments from amazing people.

    Benefits and Work are doing a brilliant job at steering us through the maze.

    A lot of people are emailing MPs & a few are being really successful in engaging with MPs through social media & in by being mentioned in parliament (take a bow SLB & Gingin).

    I feel that time is no longer on our side.

    The mainstream press report very regularly on Kendall, Reeves & Timms (well not so much on Timms) and on the revolt against the cuts by Labour MPs.

    They report that so many thousands of people are about to lose so many thousands of pounds - but that's not real life as far as the readers are concerned.

    I may be way off the mark with this - but it was inspired by SLB's letter to Liz Kendall (long way below) - that I suggested should be shared with the press.

    What if we all wrote a short piece on how the cuts, if implemented, would negatively affect us & then send our words to every national newspaper. We could ask them not to publish our real names.

    Some (just some) may be published & don't forget that MPs read the press!

    I'm sorry if you think my idea is stupid - but well -what have we got to lose? 

    PS Apologies for posts below 
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      · 2 hours ago
      @James Yes James, I’m willing to keep fighting. Thanks for your encouragement 
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      · 6 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard There is still time on our side even after the bill is read in the house of commons to keep bringing attention to the issue and to go on fighting it even when it becomes law, specially when if and when the act is implemented and the many people who start to suffer and they are brought to the notice of the public and shaming the government. We will seek to over turn the act and have it repelled if need be by bringing to attention the harm it causes when it does become implemented and shaming this government for the deaths and suffering people will have to endure.  We will never give in to tyranny of this sort.

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      · 6 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard Well said yorkie bard, so uplifting to read your post. 
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard Yes Yorkie, everything is worth trying, and trying to our utmost. I’ll do this later today. 
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    · 17 hours ago
    B&W - your site is really bad for posting - words, lines & paragraphs get missed out.

    I'm going to try and post above one last time!
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    · 17 hours ago
    The bold 
    I feel that time is no longer on our side.

    The mainstream press report very regularly on Kendall, Reeves & Timms (well not so much on Timms) and on the revolt against the cuts by Labour MPs.

    They report that so many thousands of people are about to lose so many thousands of pounds - but that's not real life as far as the readers are concerned.
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    · 17 hours ago
    Cut off again!

    Here's the ending (I hope)

    I may be way off the mark with this - but it was inspired by SLB's letter to Liz Kendall (long way below) - that I suggested should be shared with the press.

    What if we all wrote a short piece on how the cuts, if implemented, would negatively affect us & then send our words to every national newspaper. We could ask them not to publish our real names.

    Some (just some) may be published & don't forget that MPs read the press!

    I'm sorry if you think my idea is stupid - but well -what have we got to lose? 
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    · 17 hours ago
    This site is rammed with great comments from amazing people.

    Benefits and Work are doing a brilliant job at steering us through the maze.

    A lot of people are emailing MPs & a few are being really successful in engaging with MPs through social media & in by being mentioned in parliament (take a bow SLB & Gingin).

    I feel that time is no longer on our side.

    The mainstream press report very regularly on Kendall, Reeves & Timms (well not so much on Timms) and on the revolt against the cuts by Labour MPs.
    so many thousands of pounds - but that's not real life as far as the readers are concerned.


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      · 6 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard It is not set in a context. Thousands of pounds to people on a high salary is very different to thousands of pounds for people who already are just scraping by.
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard Yorkie Bard And shout out to @CaroA, remember, for compiling our very own LIST and being generally inspirational.
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    · 18 hours ago
    Any labour mp that votes for this bill doesn’t deserve a single vote ever again. I won’t rob you in 4 weeks but I will rob you in 13 weeks so don’t say you haven’t been warned peasant!!
    The mental torture and attack on the disabled community has been way beyond osbournes attack. I really think that if this goes ahead as they plan they will out shine the Tory’s who had 335,000 excess deaths under austerity. What a proud achievement for labour that would be to be worse than a Tory. 
    How many disabled have already taken their lives since this all started due to pure stress and mental breakdown the true figures will never be told. 
    There’s no shortage of money for foreign wars but there’s nothing for us disabled fighting our own personal battle on a daily basis. 
    The 4 point rule or you are refused the care element has to go nothing less will suffice. 
    It’s time now labour to stand up to starmers henchmen. I see corbyn may be starting a new party that may be attractive to those of us that have become politically homless. 

    As you enter auschwitz it says “arbeit macht frei” which translates as work sets you free. 
    This Labour Party isn’t a stones throw from the same attitude. If labour push this through they will be in the political wilderness for many many years and frankly it couldn’t be king enough. We are doomed with the alternative party’s some of them are more extreme than this shower. 
    Stay strong everyone and together we can beat this victimisation and harassment of the sick and disabled. 
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      · 5 hours ago
      @john "Time limited contributions based ESA WCA"
      Was supposed to say "Time limited contributions based ESA LCW"
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      · 6 hours ago
      @Barneyboy
      "The mental torture and attack on the disabled community has been way beyond osbournes attack"

      Tory changes to DLA
      Abolished DLA for working age including failing to honour life-time DLA awards.
      Having no equivalent to DLA low rate care component for PIP.
      PIP's different eligibility criteria designed to reduce eligibility.

      Tory changes to ESA
      Indefinitely paused the second interview in the ESA system that had the aim of identify what work people could aspire to do and to arrange provision of specialist help towards that aspiration. Making ESA purely an exercise in cost saving.
      Repeatedly changed the ESA descriptors and the guidance to assessors to reduce eligibility.
      For new claims ended passporting of those disabled from childhood who never had the ability to work, onto contributions based ESA.
      Time limited contributions based ESA WCA
      Increased the conditionality and severity of sanctions for ESA LCW
      Froze the uprating of the personal allowance component of ESA
      Abolished the LCW premium for new claimants

      Tory changes to UC
      Reducing disabled child element
      Abolishing severe disability premium
      Removed local authority discretion on social housing under occupation penalty extra bedroom for disabled for those not PIP.

      Tory changes to other benefits and support.
      Abolishing independent living fund
      Reduced local housing allowances for private renters.
      Froze local housing allowances for private renters.
      Reduced support for mortgage interest and made it a loan at interest.
      Abolished council tax benefit and replaced it with a postcode of local authority schemes with no requirement for disabled people on means tested benefits to continue to get 100% reduction.
      Froze the personal allowance component of means tested benefits for carers.
      Abolishing the social fund
      Closed down Remploy
      Reduced funding for specialist residential colleges teaching disabled people independent living skills.
      Reduced Disability Facilities Grant funding for home adaptations, then later increased it.
      Reduced funding for disabled people to participate in higher education, do not know if it was increased latter.
      Reduced funding for disabled people to participate in employment, then more recently increased it. Possibly changed the focus to the less disabled.

      Probably many more cuts that I have failed to mention.

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    · 18 hours ago
    I remember Keir Starmer stated that it will take TEN YEARS to sort out this country- I can’t see him doing this job in FIVE YEARS and he’s going to make this country more and more expensive to live or even survive as vulnerable person in today’s society.

    Yet, this stray government wants to save FIVE BILLION in the welfare benefits system and already they have made a U- Turn on some but not all in the pensioners winter fuel allowances, and I gather that’s 25% of the alleged TWENTY BILLION black hole they supposedly have not known when they came into power.

    I say the super rich of this country are doing fine and even IF they were taxed 1% that’s ONE PERCENT TAX RISE to the super richest of this country- and believe ME they had it so good for decades and it’s time NOW that the super wealthy should pay, because 1% would solve the 20 billion black hole and the best thing about this is that the super rich will hardly, hardly will feel their noses have been scratched and, if this was done in a fair and constructive way it will get this great country back on track.

    My clear message to the rebels in Parliament is to keep fighting for us, you are our shining light of hope and despair to make a huge change in a direction for a fairness esteem for the people who are standing up to this Government thoughtless idea of attacking the vulnerable in today’s society.
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      · 6 hours ago
      @Robin Hood Starmer has no values he is in the pocket of millionaires like many in his cabinet and has sold out every value that makes a decent person. His attacks on his leader and ousting him from the party using "Anti Semitism" against a man who always fought for the underdog no matter who they were was very telling to me. While I wish I could use expletives I think we all know we are not dealing with a man of honour nor is a gentleman and nothing but a power craving and money craving individual 
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      · 16 hours ago
      @Robin Hood @Robin Hood Just got to get past that pesky sheriff of Nottingham. 
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    · 19 hours ago
    Hi all im shock what is going on with if and pip next year i will not be voting labour again trust me and I maybe homeless from next November 2026 if this go again thanks to liz kindall dwp thanks
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Not vote labour again Thats the fear right? 
      Serious illness, ignored, and then made homeless. 
      Our completely corrupt MSM keep using safe and sanitised words, instead of being honest. 
      This  country has become an absolute hellhole over the last thirty years and its due to extreme neoliberalism, (a form of fascism), and it really took off with that demon Tony Blair.
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    · 21 hours ago
    I don't understand. Apart from the near term they're getting rid of work capability assessments and therefore LCW/LCWRA criteria? On UC there will be no such categories so how will they apply 'severe conditions criteria' to some claimants who get the new health element on UC based on getting PIP? It's all a bit confusing.
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      · 48 minutes ago
      @tintack @tintack I’ve been waiting for a wca since 2017 I must be right at the back of the queue for re-assessment 
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      · 2 hours ago
      @Slb
      "So reassessment must mean that if you only have LCWRA, you will be forced to apply to PIP when your work assessment runs out"

      Given the hopelessly ambiguous nature of the green paper - as illustrated by the fact that a number of us are coming up with differing interpretations of the same text, all of which are consistent with that text - I think we can only do the following:

      Hope that the new LCWRA criteria won't apply to existing claimants, but work on the assumption that they will. On that assumption, the only available option to compensate for the loss of LCWRA will be the new UC premium for those who can't work and whose condition is not expected to improve. We will therefore need to apply for that. We don't know what the process will be for getting it but obviously there will have to be one. In particular, even after the WCA is scrapped there will still have to be an incapacity for work test of some sort because the new premium is specifically for those unable to work, which by definition is related to incapacity. This is even more true for new claimants who claim after the new criteria are introduced; at least those of us already on LCWRA can point to the fact that we've already been through at least one WCA and been found unfit for work (most of us have probably been through quite a few WCAs by now).

      Until we have more details about the new premium the only practical step we can take for the time being is to get medical evidence from our own GPs - preferably consultants, as evidence from a consultant should carry more weight than that from a GP, though the latter is certainly worth getting if you can't get evidence from a consultant. I have a reasonably recent letter from my consultant which makes it pretty clear that my condition is not expected to improve, and I will request a similar updated letter at each subsequent appointment if at all possible. If we can do that, at least we'll be as armed as possible should we need to apply for the premium.

      Of course, ideally this gets voted down in the Commons and we don't need to worry about it, and given the number of rebels that should happen in theory. But we'd be fools to rely on politicians at this point.
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      · 3 hours ago
      @SLB
      "On the other hand, the Green Paper states that "“we will guarantee that no-one who has been found LCWRA prior to April 2026 and remains LCWRA following reassessment will see their UC health element entitlement changed.” That would suggest that you are right, Tintack, but what happens if we haven't been reassessed by April 2026?"

      Or indeed, what if we haven't been reassessed by 2028 when the LCWRA criteria change? We don't know. If the new LCWRA criteria won't apply to existing claimants who have already been reassessed by a WCA (we don't know that either) then we would be in the bizarre position of perhaps actually wanting to have a WCA before the criteria change. Given how much all of us dread reassessments that really would take us through the looking glass. The whole thing is a masterclass of pure evil with a generous helping of utter incompetence.
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      · 3 hours ago
      @Anon The new contributions based Unemployment benefit is intended for people who are disabled. It replaces contributions based ESA and contributions based JSA The Green Paper says "People claiming this would be expected to actively seek work, with easements for those with work-limiting health conditions." 
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      · 3 hours ago
      @SLB Maybe, but then maybe not - again, it's so vague and lacking in crucial detail that there are multiple ways to interpret it. Those interpretations may, indeed do, contradict each other, and yet each interpretation is perfectly consistent with the text of the green paper because of how utterly unfit for purpose the green paper is.  It really is back of a fag packet level stuff. 
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    · 22 hours ago
    Will Kendall’s concessions win over Labour rebels? The answer is yes, but how? She'll put a little sugar in the poison to make it acceptable... What hypocrisy!
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      · 6 hours ago
      @SLB Of course, the honest MPs of the left  Labour Party will not accept Kendall’s proposal to mitigate the severity of her inhumane decision against the poorest and most vulnerable people. What I meant was that Kendall cynically wants and aims to win the MPs of the left to the Labour Party with a slight change but they will not.
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Neal There's no real sign that the concessions are winning them over.  Whether they get cold feet is another thing entirely.
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    · 22 hours ago
    PIP is not a work related benefit. So giving 13 weeks for claimants to find work instead of 4 misses the point. It assumes that all claimants will suddenly be looking for work. 
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Moose They probably mean the people who will lose the lcwra under UC, as a result of not getting 4 points for pip. This will be the hardest hit group as they will lose everything and be put onto basic UC and be expected to find work, even if they aren't well enough. They will have to fulfil the same commitments as 'well' job seekers or face sanctions.
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Moose @Moose Those on lcwra/esa support or above state pension age should not, and we STILL have no clarity on that.
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    · 22 hours ago
    " A Labour MP has scorned the Government's attempt to thwart a revolt on welfare cuts, labelling it as "not very much really". Stroud MP Dr Simon Opher, who is also a GP, has declared his intention to defy the party line in an upcoming vote, revealing that several of his colleagues are poised to do the same."

    My cousin, Dr Ophergod'ssake

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/2068572/labour-rebellion-over-dwp-pip-cuts-13-week-rule&ved=2ahUKEwiUqP3ev_GNAxWjU0EAHZH3NOsQxfQBKAB6BAgTEAE&usg=AOvVaw1iwD5ZP0CUtBfrJ7sfDQ10  "
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      · 17 hours ago
      @Slb @Slb, just a turn of phrase, I'm hoping!
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Slb I think that's just badly worded, or it means this particular MP has personally spoken to several others intending to rebel. If the rebellion had suddenly collapsed from 150+ to several we would have heard all about it and the government would not be offering any concessions, however meaningless.
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      · 21 hours ago
      @godgivemestrength Several?   Oh dear
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    · 23 hours ago
    What's this 'face of the bill' claptrap? Why can't they just speak normally? Two faces of the bill more like.
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      · 17 hours ago
      @John @John Sounds like some double dealing afoot, then, with all this mention of 'the face of the bill', which I've never heard before. They're coming out with all the legalese to cover their sleight of hand in future.
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      · 21 hours ago
      @godgivemestrength As auto edit has removed my description of a negative procedure statutory instrument. The Minister gets to decide it and in future change it with no debate or vote in Parliament. The Minister notifies Parliament when they do and Parliament has 40 days to object and vote on it. Which it is extremely rare for Parliament to do. 
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      · 21 hours ago
      @godgivemestrength Face of the bill means in the primary legislation that Parliament debates and votes on. And to be changed in future requires Parliament to debate and vote on it. 

      Most statutory instruments are negative procedure 

      However we have yet to see if just the principal that the severely disabled for life never expected to work will be protected in cash terms and not reassessed will be in the primary legislation. With the exact definition of who gets to be in that group left to secondary legislation. Or if the primary legislation will actually define who gets to be in that group. 

      And in any event UK governments have previously failed to honour lifetime awards and never reassess awards on legacy benefits. When they have abolished the legacy benefits and replace them with new benefits with different eligibility. So it is not worth much in any event. 

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