The House of Commons Work and Pensions Committee is undertaking a short inquiry into the proposals in the Pathways to Work Green Paper which seeks to impose drastic cuts on benefits.

Possibly in view of the short time available and the deluge of responses they would be likely to receive, they are not putting out a call for evidence, swo it will not be possible for readers to contribute.

The aims of the committee are:

  • to explore the issues with the social security system the Green Paper is seeking to address;
  • to explore the evidence of the impacts of welfare changes on poverty and employment;
  • to explore the experience of sick and disabled people of the current welfare system and their views on the impacts the changes could have on them; and
  • to explore the link between health status and worklessness, and the potential impacts of the welfare changes on health status.

Committee Chair Debbie Abrahams said:  

“While the Chancellor undoubtedly must respond to financial challenges, there are legitimate concerns regarding the proposed changes to our social security system which would lead to a cut in support for more than three million sick and disabled people and their families, especially if these cuts happen before employment opportunities emerge. It is therefore vital that there is full examination of the evidence of the likely impacts this will have on poverty and employment, as well as the health of sick and disabled people. Our social security system is meant to provide a safety net to support people, so that they are protected from poverty. But we know that there are already 14.3 million people living in poverty, and half of them are sick or disabled people who are not properly supported by our benefits system. We must ensure that new social security policy addresses this.” 

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    · 4 hours ago
    What happens if a disabled person tries working and then gets fired for inadequate performance?

    Sanctioned, homeless, and disabled?

    Why is Reeves always grinning and smirking recently.
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    · 4 hours ago
    Hope people don't vote labour , reform,Tories in the may elections they don't care about disabled people ect they are cruel if labour lose lots seats they'll not have enough of their own mayor's or councillors these are the people they were going to use to get Britain working again dont know if they will use the Tories or reform ect ones  if labours mayor's councillors are voted out think it would send a big message to labour even if they ignore people now they'll want to stay in power next general election can't do that if not enough votes they think they control everyone but the public control them with votes .
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    · 4 hours ago
    We all know the jobs for disabled people are few and far between.  It's about cutting disabled people's benefit money. It's got nothing to do with helping them into employment. 
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    · 5 hours ago
    The committee inquiry is just a parliamentary formality. It has no powers to exercise any change.

    They previously had an inquiry about safeguarding vulnerable claimants. Did anything happen following that? No.

    Nobody is coming to save us.
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    · 5 hours ago
    What powers do the committee have to exercise following this?

    None? Exactly.

    We are toast.
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    · 10 hours ago
    Not at all surprising the alarm bells are going off at a Work and Pensions Committee. They've clearly taken one look at this Green Paper and wondered where on earth you're going to find vacancies for all of the claimants that are gonna be kicked off their benefits and will be flooding the job market.

    You can say that you'll "support" disabled individuals into work until you're blue in the face. You can even take a disabled person by the hand, walk them into a place of business and demand to speak to the manager. It won't matter. There just aren't enough vacancies out there as it is and adding millions and millions of disabled people to the mix who are desperate for money is certainly going to be mayhem.

    In fact, it'll become so desperate that it might very well be dystopian. I wouldn't be at all shocked if we have more cases of modern day slavery and exploitation showing up in the coming years because people will do just about anything to survive. 

    Of course, I don't think this Committee actually care cares about all this because I personally have no faith in these governmental departments. They're only hosting this inquiry because what I've described above is going to be a huge headache for them that their higher ups in the actual government will not have to deal with and they're not willing to play ball. Let's just hope they cannibalise each other trying to palm off the responsibility. 
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    · 10 hours ago
    I’m afraid I don’t buy it - if they wanted to address the issues then they would open up and listen to the experts and claimants themselves. This just seems to me like a “no look we checked it’s all fine” bit of drama. Labour avoided this topic ever since Sunak said “I don’t believe Britain is sicker than a decade ago” - despite every available measure disproving that. Labour said nothing. They didn’t put anything in their manifesto, they’ve avoided the topic and they’ll push through no matter what - they’ve made that clear by how they’re trying to dodge the human rights and discrimination challenges the changes would (rightly) get. 

    “For the many not the few” is just a slogan, their actions show who they really are and what they really care about, and it isn’t us. It’s trying to prove that they can save more money than the Tories, no matter what the human cost. 

    I stand by my position that a 1% tax on the super rich for 1 year only - raising appropriately £6bn would sure things up so they can scrap these plans and take the slow approach that should be taken when dealing with welfare changes. It’s like surgery, one wrong slip and people die, so you need experts and all the information possible. The super rich wouldn’t suffer and die losing 1% for one year - disabled people will if they lose 100% forever. 

    You can’t shift the goalposts and say “you were sick enough for financial help yesterday, but you’re not today despite the fact you haven’t changed”. 

    These cuts are cruel, openly discriminatory and they will kill. But they’ll push them through anyway. I don’t know anyone who’s not scared right now - and rightly so. Unless we can make our voices loud and heard, we stand no chance of stopping them. 

    I have chronic pain, I won’t be affected by these cuts as I score 4 points, but my friend will - and he’ll lose his home. The future has never been more terrifying, courtesy of Labour and the DWP. 

    Anyone supporting this should bow their head in shame - this is eugenics by economics and nothing more. 
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    · 12 hours ago
    I'm only presuming there are people here who have seen this all before under different government's in the past, how ultimately will all of this play out?

    Will Labour pass everything? Will Labour's plans get watered down? Can money orientated legislation get challenged in court? 

    What are the gut feelings?
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    · 13 hours ago
    I have said it over and over AGAIN on this site that WE all will be losers if these cuts go ahead. It is as simple as that. FACT!

    It does NOT matter, whether you are a pensioner, young middle aged or old. 

    I was yesterday feeling a little uplifted by the work and pensions committee Green paper inquiry.

    Only today to have learnt another revelation from Kendall! This time consultations behind ALL of our backs AGAIN have been on-going with Health Secretary Wes Streeting, and certain GP Practices up and down the Country for quite some time.

    Whereby, GP's instead of writing a fit note/sick note they are to actually refer people to employment support. This has been going on jointly already with some GP's. 

    This is further going to be looked into by John Lewis boss Charlie Mayfield. Who will carry out the reviews.  Kendall states/affirms that work is already going on behind the scenes. Behind our backs again, without any consultation AGAIN to us those of us that this will impact.

    As such people with disabilities, long term sick We NEED medical support from our GP's NOT our GP's then to send to Employment Support. 

    Therefore, I am sorry to have to say this but I hope, you have confidence in your GP, because right now I do NOT with how my GP practice is run. Business Decisions are overriding Clinical Decisions. 

    At the moment we are protected by LWC or the support group on ESA.

    Now do you get WHY they want to abolish LWC and it's equivalent on ESA.?

    Honestly, the ONLY hope we have is FOR this bill to be abolished, as such they already have been exploring the proposals with the people who are supposed to understand the needs of people who are currently out of work. We just have NOT been made aware of it, until 3 April 2025!

    Fact IS there are NO realistic plans 'to drive a revolution in disabled people's employment opportunities' 

    This has NOT been about work reform, in my opinion, whatsoever, it is about the Government saving money and to recoup the money they have spent since being in power for short period of time and GUESS WHAT as sick and disabled people we have been the ones chosen to be their scapegoat.

    Those work coaches they are talking about. They have NOT recruited anymore, INDEED there has been mass shortage of work coaches as they are all leaving. 
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    · 15 hours ago
    I find this heartening. It's worth exploring the proposals with people who understand the needs of people who are currently out of work. If Labour is truly committed to getting Britain working again, it needs to drive forward the reforms needed to create opportunities for sick and disabled to get back into the work place. While I welcome the carrot and stick approach, we need more stick and money to really drive a revolution in disabled people's employment opportunities.
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    · 20 hours ago
    @AB, exactly, where cuts are concerned, work shouldn't be in a conversation about pip, or pensioners.
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    · 21 hours ago
    I presume this won't be ready until AFTER MPs are asked to vote. :-(
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    · 1 days ago
    "Taxpayers funded training for ministers to sell their controversial welfare cuts to the public."

    "Taxpayers funded the training ministers underwent when they were trying to sell their lies on their evil welfare cuts to the public, it can be revealed."



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      · 5 hours ago
      @Scorpion Even the Daily Mail are against these cuts.

      That's how bad they are.
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    · 1 days ago
    I would be worried:


    "The committee failed to cross-examine Reeves in detail about a key controversial change to universal credit, which is closely connected to the government’s disability employment policies."
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      · 3 hours ago
      @mbc127 We are all worried.
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      · 13 hours ago
      @mbc127 Well, no more worried than we already are, and we do know that the head of the Work and Pensions committee has already voiced her concerns about the cuts.  The treasury committee is another thing altogether.  What I find most worrying is just how few MPs actually understand what is happening or even that the "double blow" of "lose pip, you lose LCWRA of UC" is part and parcel of the cuts.  I think if that double blow was emphasised and made plain, there would be many more fighting against it.  But it's difficult to cut through.  You can only email an MP if they are your own constituency MP, and virtually no MPs seem to take any notice of anything on social media except their own posts.
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    · 1 days ago
    Gingin, I have completed the carers uk survey, it's really good and as you say it's really important to do as it's a chance to get our voices heard. Also carers uk are going to appeal the chancellor to re think these cruel proposals so the more people who complete it the better. 
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      · 12 hours ago
      @gingin I'm trying to work my way through it too.  Slowly as my brain is struggling but I'll get there!
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Ann Great, glad you added your voice Ann (-: The more the better
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    · 1 days ago
    The committee chair says it would be bad especially before employment opportunities arise.   I get the point but it almost implies perhaps it wouldn't be bad or that bad if the jobs were  available. Words need to be chosen carefully at a perilous moment like this.   But the point is the majority of people that have been on these benefits for any length of time are virtually unemployable unless there was to be a culture change in equality of access to the workplace and support measures.  For the foreseeable future that likelihood is there won't be much by the way of recruitment generally let alone a new era of disabled access.  Not forgetting as well that the biggest part of this is pip and that's got nothing to do specifically with unemployment or employment it is just a benefit for recognizing the extra costs and challenges of disabilities itself whether you have a job or not.  
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      · 3 hours ago
      @AB Doesn't matter what they say. They could conclude the proposals are disastrous, but it won't stop them becoming law in the summer.

      IDS and Stride were compassionate humanitarians compared to the incumbents.
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      · 20 hours ago
      @AB Yes, AB, 'the biggest part of this is pip', thank you. Try telling that to @WorkshyLayabout.
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      · 1 days ago
      @AB
      That's the thing, they want, and intend to make PIP a work related benefit.  I bet their planned review of PIP later is going turn it into a work related, means tested frankensteins' monster of what it was.  They'll tighten it up even further and make it an even worse  combination of PIP and the WCA, all based around the UNUM Provident Biopsychosocial model and the DWP will continue to be a disability denial factory.  You're not useful to us if you can't work, be productive, pay tax and serve your country under conscription.  If you're not a dead brain sat in a pool of your own bodily dysfunction, just waiting to be put out of your misery, you will get nothing.

      I hope to God I am wrong and the committee really do take them to task but I fear they will do nothing, achieve nothing and have no power whatsoever anyway.  I don't want to take the wind out of the sails so I will still try to hold onto a little hope.
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    · 1 days ago
    This is really good news, it's good to know someone from Westminster has got our back. Thank you Debbie Abrahams for giving consideration to our sufferings. 
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    · 1 days ago
    In an email from the Secretariat for the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Carers, he shared info about a survey Carers UK are doing to expose the impact of these proposals on carers and their families. Here's what he said and the link to the survey which i'd encourage any carers to complete. It's long, but I think it's worth us putting in every effort to do what we can to get our voices heard. Please respond to this survey if you can asap! Here's the extract from his email:

    We have also created a short survey to enable carers to tell us in detail about the impact the reforms will have on them and those they care for. We will use the results from this in the campaign we are running to oppose the reforms. If you would like to complete the survey, you can do so here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2W82GT2
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    · 1 days ago
    Sadly I sense she is speaking with forked tongue, just like most of her colleagues. Read the last few sentences carefully and you'll notice that, although it sounds good initially, it's actually the same doublespeak Kendall and her DWP henchmen are spouting: "protect from poverty... not properly supported by benefits system... ensure new social security policy addresses this." In other words: WORK PAYS, AND WORK MAKES YOU FREE. 

    They're all the same, believing the "health of sick and disabled people" is compromised if we don't have the mandatory work ethic. Someone commented elsewhere that this is the government and DWP "marking their own homework" and I fear that that's the case. 

    I want to be wrong, and pray that I am. But it was reported yesterday that Kendall was out saying something yet more sinister. On the one hand she was implicitly chastising the Labour MPs thinking of voting this policy down, while on the other hand putting the country on notice that further cuts can be expected. As per, she contradicted herself by saying, almost in the same breath, that her policy is about the virtues of leading the sick and disabled to the panacea of work, AND it is an economic necessity. 

    We shouldn't be lulled into the delusion that the Work and Pensions Committee is fighting for us. That's what they want the faint-hearted among us to believe, for as long as it takes them to vote this rotten money Bill through. We mustn't stop actively opposing this while there might still be a chance of making some sort of impact on the process. 

    What we're seeing is a government who are trying to conceal their own failure. They don't have the talent, imagination, courage and acumen to rescue the economy on behalf of millions of healthy and able-bodied workers whose wages are going in ever-decreasing circles. Many of those workers are furious at their lot, so the government (along with a similarly cowardly opposition, on the whole) are encouraging them to blame a benefits system that previously supported sick and disabled people. The politicians won't confess to not being up to the job of creating an economy that provides a decent standard of living for the majority, so instead are scapegoating us. Abraham, for all her seemingly well-meaning platitudes, is one of them. 


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      · 5 hours ago
      @pollenpath Very well said.
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      · 20 hours ago
      @pollenpath Debbie Abrahams and Neil Coyle are two Labour MPs', along the former MP Dennis Skinner, have been fighting for the dissabled, and are MPs who actually understand dissabled/benefits issues.  If you watch the comissions, they fight for the Dissabled.  
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    · 1 days ago
    Unless this was a different committee entirely, I believe Stephen Timms and some of his cronies had a meeting with them back in February where they essentially lied through their teeth and made out like they had the best interests of the disabled at heart when questioned about all this. It's not shocking that they're not happy about the Green Paper and what it proposes since it doesn't align with what Timms promised them, especially concerning an anecdote where an individual within his constituency lost his arm but managed to remain employment, only to then lose it and seek help from him as he was legitimately concerned that he would not be able to survive on benefits. 

    Timms and the rest of the Labour government lied and covered things up for the longest time and repeatedly stated they would take the concerns of disabled individuals on board. 

    Moment Ellen Clifford took the Tories and their proposals to court and won? That's when their whole demeanour appeared to change. Starmer stated he "likes a good fight" like he intends to personally mug the disabled in a dark alleyway. We're also suddenly "taking the mickey" according to Liz Kendall and Timms is also out here implying that being signed off sick is a choice we all actively make (because we're lazy, presumably), despite the story he told about the one-armed gentleman in his constituency contradicting this narrative.

    We were only worth listening to and worth sympathising with when they felt we would be doormats and it's borderline humorous how slick they thought they were.