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8 years 2 months ago #152389 by Steve Blue
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It's all confusing to me, but no worries. I've checked his pension age and it shows as July this year. I'll have a think.
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8 years 1 month ago #152550 by Steve Blue
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Our letter to our MP is almost complete. I'll send later this evening. I would assume he'll know the correct place to send it if he feels he can help. Hopefully he won't just 'forward it on'.
On a separate issue... just in case we do wind up completing the ESA50 form, I'm curious on the following:
1) When my dad was placed within the Support Group approx three years ago, it was because he met the descriptor on moving around. When his illness was at it's worse he was unable to move 5 metres (let alone 50) and because of the nature of his illness using aids made no difference. He simply couldn't function, regardless. His doctor thankfully confirmed this in writing. Has this descriptor changed in the last three years? Looking at the form - it appears the same.
2) When the day finally comes when he 'invited' to apply for PIP (which replaces DLA) is there a moving element to it? If so. how does it compare with the moving around section on the ESA form?
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BlueBear.
On a separate issue... just in case we do wind up completing the ESA50 form, I'm curious on the following:
1) When my dad was placed within the Support Group approx three years ago, it was because he met the descriptor on moving around. When his illness was at it's worse he was unable to move 5 metres (let alone 50) and because of the nature of his illness using aids made no difference. He simply couldn't function, regardless. His doctor thankfully confirmed this in writing. Has this descriptor changed in the last three years? Looking at the form - it appears the same.
2) When the day finally comes when he 'invited' to apply for PIP (which replaces DLA) is there a moving element to it? If so. how does it compare with the moving around section on the ESA form?
Kind regards -
BlueBear.
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8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago #152551 by Gordon
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There have been no changes to the ESA Mobility Descriptor.
PIP has two tests for Mobility their combined score is used to decide on an award. The first test looks at the claimants ability to plan and follow a route and is aimed at claimants with Cognitive, mental health or sensory issues. The second test requires the claimant to stand and then walk, the use of a wheelchair is not considered.
The test is points based which is completely different from DLA, he will need 8 points or more for a Standard award or 12 points or more for the Enhanced.
To get an award on purely the walking test, the claimant needs to be restricted to 20m-50m for the Standard rate (equivalent to DLA LRM) and 20m or less for the Enhanced rate 9DLA HRM).
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There have been no changes to the ESA Mobility Descriptor.
PIP has two tests for Mobility their combined score is used to decide on an award. The first test looks at the claimants ability to plan and follow a route and is aimed at claimants with Cognitive, mental health or sensory issues. The second test requires the claimant to stand and then walk, the use of a wheelchair is not considered.
The test is points based which is completely different from DLA, he will need 8 points or more for a Standard award or 12 points or more for the Enhanced.
To get an award on purely the walking test, the claimant needs to be restricted to 20m-50m for the Standard rate (equivalent to DLA LRM) and 20m or less for the Enhanced rate 9DLA HRM).
Gordon
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8 years 1 month ago #152567 by Bearer
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Always check with The Pension Service, but it seems:
Men's age of entitlement to State Retirement Pension SRP remains 65y until the last lucky man born 5 December 1953, whose SRP date is his 65th birthday i.e. 5 December 2018.
People (men and women) born month commencing 6 December 1953 (i.e. 6 December 1953 to 5 January 1954) all get their SRP on 6 March 2019: the oldest will be 65y 3m and the youngest will be 65y 2m 1d .
People born month commencing 6 January 1954 (i.e. 6 January 1954 to 5 February 1954) all get their SRP on 6 May 2019: the oldest will be 65y 4m and the youngest will be 65y 3m 1d.
And so on:
Born 6 Feb 54 - 5 March 54. SRP on 6 July 2019. Oldest will be 65y 5m.
Born 6 Mar 54 - 5 April 54. SRP on 6 Sept 2019. Oldest will be 65y 6m
Born 6 April 54- 5 May 54. SRP on 6 Nov 2019. Oldest will be 65y 7m.
Born 6 May 54 - 5 June 54. SRP on 6 Jan 2020. Oldest will be 65y 8m.
Born 6 June 54 -5 July 54. SRP on 6 Mar 2020. Oldest will be 65y 9m.
Born 6 July 54 - 5 Aug 54. SRP on 6 May 2020. Oldest will be 65y 10m.
Born 6 Aug 54 - 5 Sept 54. SRP on 6 July 2020. Oldest will be 65y 11m.
Born 6 Sept 54 - 5 Oct 54. SRP on 6 Sept 2020. Oldest will be 66y.
Born 6 Oct 54 onwards until 5 April 1960. On 66th birthday.
Born 6 April 1960 to 5 April 1961 - in transition from 66th birthday to 67th birthday.
Born 6th April 1961 onwards - 67th birthday (until the next rise in SRP).
Always check with The Pension Service.
Men's age of entitlement to State Retirement Pension SRP remains 65y until the last lucky man born 5 December 1953, whose SRP date is his 65th birthday i.e. 5 December 2018.
People (men and women) born month commencing 6 December 1953 (i.e. 6 December 1953 to 5 January 1954) all get their SRP on 6 March 2019: the oldest will be 65y 3m and the youngest will be 65y 2m 1d .
People born month commencing 6 January 1954 (i.e. 6 January 1954 to 5 February 1954) all get their SRP on 6 May 2019: the oldest will be 65y 4m and the youngest will be 65y 3m 1d.
And so on:
Born 6 Feb 54 - 5 March 54. SRP on 6 July 2019. Oldest will be 65y 5m.
Born 6 Mar 54 - 5 April 54. SRP on 6 Sept 2019. Oldest will be 65y 6m
Born 6 April 54- 5 May 54. SRP on 6 Nov 2019. Oldest will be 65y 7m.
Born 6 May 54 - 5 June 54. SRP on 6 Jan 2020. Oldest will be 65y 8m.
Born 6 June 54 -5 July 54. SRP on 6 Mar 2020. Oldest will be 65y 9m.
Born 6 July 54 - 5 Aug 54. SRP on 6 May 2020. Oldest will be 65y 10m.
Born 6 Aug 54 - 5 Sept 54. SRP on 6 July 2020. Oldest will be 65y 11m.
Born 6 Sept 54 - 5 Oct 54. SRP on 6 Sept 2020. Oldest will be 66y.
Born 6 Oct 54 onwards until 5 April 1960. On 66th birthday.
Born 6 April 1960 to 5 April 1961 - in transition from 66th birthday to 67th birthday.
Born 6th April 1961 onwards - 67th birthday (until the next rise in SRP).
Always check with The Pension Service.
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8 years 1 month ago #152571 by bro58
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8 years 1 month ago #152726 by Steve Blue
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My dad was born in July '51, so 65 appears correct.
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