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5 years 2 months ago #228736 by Machman
After a Mandatory Reconsideration in November 2017 my friend was awarded the standard rate of PIP until September 2021 – this I believe was in no small part due to how we demonstrated that the original decision to deny his claim was based upon a wholly untruthful report of his health assessment carried out by Independent Assessment Services (formally ATOS).

A few months earlier after having another assessment for his ESA claim he was moved from the Support Group to the Work Related Activity Group and a Mandatory Reconsideration failed to change this decision and therefore we took the case to tribunal.

In May of last year we were informed that our appeal had been allowed but just over a month later we were told that this had been changed to disallowed without any explanation apart from the first decision was made in error . . . something that the Citizens Advice Bureau had never encountered.

They thought it unlikely we would be successful if we appealed this further and so we accepted the decision.

Around the same time he began suffering with Lower Extremity Oedema in both legs and feet – the swelling was so severe that none of his footwear would fit nor either the ¾ metal brace he has to wear for his vulgus left knee which is riddled with osteoarthritis.

Being on his feet for more than a few minutes was not only very painful but without the security of the leg brace his balance and stability was greatly compromised.

His GP ran several blood test which did not reveal the cause, nor did the COPD test or Doppler Scan, and having tried a number of different prescribed medications the only combination which has been partially successful in that of Furosemide and Spironolactone.

These only offer a very temporary respite as the fluid builds up rapidly once he is on his feet and only work by inducing prolonged bouts of urination which make him practically incontinent for several hours.

With this and the side effects of these meds (nausea, dizziness, weakness) has greatly reduced his already limited ability to manage himself as he already takes very potent meds as Mirtazapin, Paroxetine, Zopiclone and Diazepam and any “Health Professional” worth their salt would accept this greatly diminishes the capability of a person to have even a semblance of normal life.

Therefore in October 2018 (5 months since suffering with the Oedema) I wrote to both ESA and PIP making them aware of this new condition and asking them respectively if PIP could now award him the Mobility Component and ESA if they would now move him back to the Support Group as he has had to take out two Budget Loans to help cover the cost for additional assistance.

Now even though I sent them medical, photographic and testimonial evidence verifying the severity of this new condition, both ESA and PIP chose to respond identically by sending him forms to complete as if he was making a new claim.

We duly completed and returned both forms with a wealth of irrefutable evidence and asked that if an assessment is necessary for it to be carried out at his home explaining the reasons why.

Both ESA and PIP responded alike by referring him for a “Health Assessment” to be carried out by a “Health Professional” from the Health Assessment Advisory Service (HAAS) and Independent Assessment Services (IAS) at venues over 20 miles from where he lives.

His “support system”comprises of his friend who lives local and myself – I live in London and after my hysterectomy last year I have my own health issues and cannot offer the same support as previously – his friend is a self employed builder with two young children and therefore taking half the day off to go with D to any assessment is not only extremely troublesome but also costly.

Both ESA and PIP were made aware of this when we returned the forms but they have chosen to disregard this information and to ensure they cause D the most distress and disruption – it seems very clear that both are looking to use the report from the Health Professional as an excuse to cancel the payments he currently receives.

We've even had IAS and HAAS send letters giving him less than a week for his assessment and IAS have now done this twice!

As disgusting as this may be it is the only logical reason for ignoring the overwhelming evidence we have provided in favour of a likely predetermined report from the Health Professional – these Health Professionals have at best the knowledge and experience of a registered nurse (though the majority have far less) and along with the barely cursory assessment itself are wholly ineffectual methods in gauging the capabilities of somebody suffering with a range of complex and serious mental and physical health issues and all the relevant discriptors have been registered 

I asserted this by letter at the end of Feb to ESA, PIP, IAS and HAAS and requested by Freedom of Information Act (FOI) the name of the person who decided to “refer” D for a Health Assessment but have so far only received an acknowledgement of the letter from IAS and HAAS . . . we;ve not had any response from ESA or PIP.

One of the conditions D suffers from is acute anxiety and this can manifest in violent outbursts or equally as violent panic attacks – he had such an attack in February and collapsed in his bathroom and lost consciousness for a few minutes - When he came to he was unable to get to his feet so he dragged himself into the living room and rang Lee who has a spare key and came straight round – though in pain, after a while seemed otherwise unharmed.

However during the course of the evening the pain became worse and by the morning he was unable to stand or lay down – after being checked by the emergency doctor she said he had damaged his sciatic nerve and prescribed him a 2 week course of Diazepam and bed rest.

Unfortunately this has not remedied the problem and after being examined by his GP on March 7th she agreed that he had injured his sciatic nerve and he has been on bedrest nd diazepam since then while he waits for a referral to have an MRI scan.

We have notified PIP, ESA, IAS and HAAS of this but he is still expected to attend the respective Health Assessments else risk the cancellation of their respective payments . . . none are willing to carry this out at his home.

I've now written to Peter Schofield twice the past forthnight asking if he can give some clarity but have not had a response

I don't know what else I can do if nobody is willing to respond to any of the concerns i've raised and thats why I'm hoping somebody here might have some suggestions.

Thank you,

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5 years 2 months ago #228754 by Gordon
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Machman

Whilst I understand your concern about what is being done, this is the standard process that I would expect both HAAS and IAS to follow.

I would not expect your friend to get a home assessment if they have anger issues so the only option left is a Paper Based Review, however, this will be difficult where a Change has been reported. Is there GP willing to state in writing in unambiguous terms, that they cannot either physically or mentally attend at either of the Assessment Providers offices and are they willing to provide any additional information that might be requested by the APs in order for them to complete a PBR?

Failing that, would a paid for taxi enable your friend to attend?

Gordon

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5 years 2 months ago #228768 by Machman
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Hi Gordon - its as much about attending the assessments on his own as it is how difficult it would be for him - he would have to go without taking his meds on the day until after the assessment so not only would he be in great pain but in an extremely agitated state of mind so going on his own is not only highly impractical but dangerous as well - nobody is addressing any of the concerns ive raised with them so i dont know what else i can do.

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5 years 2 months ago #228770 by Machman
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P.S - forgot to mention that though we have provided evidence from his GP including difficulty in attending the assessments neither IAS or HAAS have even bothered to contact the GP to verify which makes me even more suspicious about - he has also been victim to wholly fabricated reports from ATOS and IAS before when he has gone to an assessment alone and now is so wary of them it actually makes him physically sick when thinking about having to attend.

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5 years 2 months ago #228784 by Gordon
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Machman

What do the GP letters say, do they use phrases such as "might have problems..." "symptoms could be worse..."? Does the person leave their house at all, perhaps to go shopping?

Why would they not take the medication on the day of the assessment?

Gordon

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5 years 2 months ago #228790 by Machman
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Hi Gordon - the Furosemide and Spironolactone that he takes for the oedema induce almost constant urination for a good 3 to 4 hrs so he wouldn't be able to take them prior to an assessment if it was for the first half of the day . . . if he doesn't take them then his lower legs and feet quickly swell up and become painful - the mirtazapin he takes for his anxiety/depression have a sedative effect but in conjunction with the diazapam which he takes for his back problem increases the sedative effect and means that mentally he is very unfocused, uncoordinated and weak especially in the legs, so he would have to attend an assessment without taking them which would mean he would be in a great deal of physical and mental distress - his GP wrote "I have advised him to rest as much as possible with his feet raised - this with his other mental and physical health issues means that travelling any long distance can put his health at risk even if accompanied" - but neither the DWP, IAS or HAAS are willing to take this into consideration.

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