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5 years 7 months ago #236518 by Rafiki
ESA & U.C combo - Special Circumstances/ Exemption was created by Rafiki
Hi appreciate any info thanks
I am in the Support Group of ESA and No work-related requirements group of UC since 2016
A) HOW I can contact the DWP / UC online/ Job Centre before the Face to Face Assessment to see if I qualify for Special Circumstances / Exemption
Has anyone on here been exempted under special circumstances with UC or ESA? I read the guides but did not find anything conclusive with regard to my situation
C) My Situation
1. I am due for an invasive gastric surgery in Feb 2020 and I will be hospital for at least a week. The point is that between now, and surgery and the recovery period I need more intense supervision due to very high risks and possibly fatality (definitive 12 months I cannot work). I have started the pre-surgery lifestyle changes as there are foods and drinks i will not be able to eat again for a very long time. I have an Eating Disorder due to severe trauma so my monitoring is even harder to ensure what foods I eat and get the right nutrients before, during and after surgery. I am at risk of blood clots which will increase in risk due to surgery, so my haematologists have to monitor me closely int that time period.
2. I have a Blood Cancer (diagnosed sicne 2011) that is a lifelong term condition and incurable. Whilte not terminal yet, it has no cure and can only be managed. I can be given medication to lower platelets but that is all. For some reason this has never mattered and they only care if you having chemo or radiotherapy in U.C
[Fortunately my Cancer doctor is great and always writes letters but ESA, PIP, UC seem to ignore them]
3. I am recovering from a high risk suicide incident last August. Where I was admitted to a suicide watch facility following a referral from my therapist. I had suicide counselling followed by specialist trauma therapy by NHS that I finished in June this year (2019). The suicide episode started with a shock from a bereavement of someone close, then some severe triggers occurred, and the dreaded migration from life long award of DLA to Pip.
4. I have long term severe mental health trauma, including continued emotional abuse that has re-triggered me in recent adulthood. Diagnosed with Complext PTSD, Severe Anxiety, Severe Depression, Dissasociation, Eating Disorder, Sleep Disorders and GP just sent a referral for Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) due to constant emotional instability.
5. I know it sounds like I have a good chance, but worried as with same evidence, the PIP assessor lied on report repeatedly about coping well and 'looking well' when my carer had to help me with everything at assessment. Fortunately the DWP decision maker overturned the ATOS nurse especially on 'going out' and 'dealing with people' which I was given full points and awared higher PIP on both elements.
I'm afraid if I mess up UC it will mess up my suicide recovery and success of operation that I have been waiting for, for 2 years on NHS.
Thanks
I am in the Support Group of ESA and No work-related requirements group of UC since 2016
A) HOW I can contact the DWP / UC online/ Job Centre before the Face to Face Assessment to see if I qualify for Special Circumstances / Exemption

C) My Situation
1. I am due for an invasive gastric surgery in Feb 2020 and I will be hospital for at least a week. The point is that between now, and surgery and the recovery period I need more intense supervision due to very high risks and possibly fatality (definitive 12 months I cannot work). I have started the pre-surgery lifestyle changes as there are foods and drinks i will not be able to eat again for a very long time. I have an Eating Disorder due to severe trauma so my monitoring is even harder to ensure what foods I eat and get the right nutrients before, during and after surgery. I am at risk of blood clots which will increase in risk due to surgery, so my haematologists have to monitor me closely int that time period.
2. I have a Blood Cancer (diagnosed sicne 2011) that is a lifelong term condition and incurable. Whilte not terminal yet, it has no cure and can only be managed. I can be given medication to lower platelets but that is all. For some reason this has never mattered and they only care if you having chemo or radiotherapy in U.C
[Fortunately my Cancer doctor is great and always writes letters but ESA, PIP, UC seem to ignore them]
3. I am recovering from a high risk suicide incident last August. Where I was admitted to a suicide watch facility following a referral from my therapist. I had suicide counselling followed by specialist trauma therapy by NHS that I finished in June this year (2019). The suicide episode started with a shock from a bereavement of someone close, then some severe triggers occurred, and the dreaded migration from life long award of DLA to Pip.
4. I have long term severe mental health trauma, including continued emotional abuse that has re-triggered me in recent adulthood. Diagnosed with Complext PTSD, Severe Anxiety, Severe Depression, Dissasociation, Eating Disorder, Sleep Disorders and GP just sent a referral for Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) due to constant emotional instability.
5. I know it sounds like I have a good chance, but worried as with same evidence, the PIP assessor lied on report repeatedly about coping well and 'looking well' when my carer had to help me with everything at assessment. Fortunately the DWP decision maker overturned the ATOS nurse especially on 'going out' and 'dealing with people' which I was given full points and awared higher PIP on both elements.
I'm afraid if I mess up UC it will mess up my suicide recovery and success of operation that I have been waiting for, for 2 years on NHS.
Thanks
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5 years 7 months ago #236539 by Gary
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Replied by Gary on topic ESA & U.C combo - Special Circumstances/ Exemption
Hi RM
You say that you are in the support group of ESA, are you getting CB ESA? I could not find anything in the hand books I have but I did find some information on line which you may find useful www.beingtheboss.co.uk/advice-for-profes...-facing-assessments/
In places where ESA is replaced by Universal Credit (UC), this exemption is in UC regulations 2013 Schedule 8 and also applies to the compulsory “Health and Work Conversation”
ESA. Assessments are carried out by multinational company Maximus (under the name Health Assessment Advisory Service) on behalf of the DWP.
In filling in the ESA50 form, attach your support letter from your doctor/consultant/psychiatrist to the form and make sure it is listed on the form.
If you can’t cope with the form, or if an interview date has already been sent out, fax it headed FME (Further Medical Evidence) to HAAS London central fax: 0208 795 8647. This is the procedure recommended by HAAS call centre staff. It should have the claimant’s name and NI No. at the top of each numbered page.
If you have an appointment date and HAAS are refusing to postpone this, or are still requiring you to attend despite your request for exemption, email the same correspondence with a cover note raising your complaint to the Centre for Health and Disability Assessments (Maximus head office). Ask them to put the appointment on hold pending the decision on exemption: email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., they usually reply within two days. Always cc your MP and ask them to follow it up on your behalf.
Under “Exceptional Circumstances”, you can say that there would be substantial risk to your health if you were put under work conditions for benefit, so you should be exempted from these and the exam. This regulation means the person is already accepted as satisfying the test for ESA (limited capability for work) so doesn’t have to be seen. Substantial risk to health can be mental health, or physical health e.g. risk of heart attack from stress. Risk to mental health covers not only suicide risk, but also sudden deterioration in mental state: PTSD flashbacks, panic attacks, hearing voices, or similar.
Substantial risk regulations: wcainfo.net/issues/substantial-risk-lcw
A claimant can be treated as having limited capability for work (LCW) after failing to score sufficient points under the WCA if, by reason of their health condition or disability, there would be a substantial risk to the health of the claimant or others were they found not to have LCW. Substantial risk that can be avoided through reasonable adjustments to the claimant’s workplace or by taking prescribed medication or treatment will not count.
Legislation
Regulations provide that a claimant can be treated as having LCW where there is a substantial risk to the health of any person if the claimant were found not to have LCW.
For ESA, regulation 29 of the Employment and Support Allowance Regulations 2008 and regulation 25 of the Employment and Support Allowance Regulations 2013 provide -
A claimant who does not have limited capability for work as determined in accordance with the limited capability for work assessment is to be treated as having limited capability for work if paragraph (2) applies to the claimant.
Subject to paragraph (3) this paragraph applies if ... (b) the claimant suffers from some specific disease or bodily or mental disablement and, by reasons of such disease or disablement, there would be a substantial risk to the mental or physical health of any person if the claimant were found not to have limited capability for work.
Paragraph (2)(b) does not apply where the risk could be reduced by a significant amount by - (a) reasonable adjustments being made in the claimant’s workplace; or (b) the claimant taking medication to manage the claimant’s condition where such medication has been prescribed for the claimant by a registered medical practitioner treating the claimant.
For universal credit, paragraph 4 of schedule 8 to the Universal Credit Regulations 2013 provides that a claimant is to be treated as having limited capability for work if the circumstances below apply -
The claimant is suffering from a specific illness, disease or disablement by reason of which there would be a substantial risk to the physical or mental health of any person were the claimant found not to have limited capability for work.
This paragraph does not apply where the risk could be reduced by a significant amount by - (a) reasonable adjustments being made in the claimant's workplace; or (b) the claimant taking medication to manage their condition where such medication has been prescribed for the claimant by a registered medical practitioner treating the claimant.
The medical evidence sent on paper has to be “robust” to enable the test for benefit to be met, and should include comments about how functioning is affected.
Gary
You say that you are in the support group of ESA, are you getting CB ESA? I could not find anything in the hand books I have but I did find some information on line which you may find useful www.beingtheboss.co.uk/advice-for-profes...-facing-assessments/
In places where ESA is replaced by Universal Credit (UC), this exemption is in UC regulations 2013 Schedule 8 and also applies to the compulsory “Health and Work Conversation”
ESA. Assessments are carried out by multinational company Maximus (under the name Health Assessment Advisory Service) on behalf of the DWP.
In filling in the ESA50 form, attach your support letter from your doctor/consultant/psychiatrist to the form and make sure it is listed on the form.
If you can’t cope with the form, or if an interview date has already been sent out, fax it headed FME (Further Medical Evidence) to HAAS London central fax: 0208 795 8647. This is the procedure recommended by HAAS call centre staff. It should have the claimant’s name and NI No. at the top of each numbered page.
If you have an appointment date and HAAS are refusing to postpone this, or are still requiring you to attend despite your request for exemption, email the same correspondence with a cover note raising your complaint to the Centre for Health and Disability Assessments (Maximus head office). Ask them to put the appointment on hold pending the decision on exemption: email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., they usually reply within two days. Always cc your MP and ask them to follow it up on your behalf.
Under “Exceptional Circumstances”, you can say that there would be substantial risk to your health if you were put under work conditions for benefit, so you should be exempted from these and the exam. This regulation means the person is already accepted as satisfying the test for ESA (limited capability for work) so doesn’t have to be seen. Substantial risk to health can be mental health, or physical health e.g. risk of heart attack from stress. Risk to mental health covers not only suicide risk, but also sudden deterioration in mental state: PTSD flashbacks, panic attacks, hearing voices, or similar.
Substantial risk regulations: wcainfo.net/issues/substantial-risk-lcw
A claimant can be treated as having limited capability for work (LCW) after failing to score sufficient points under the WCA if, by reason of their health condition or disability, there would be a substantial risk to the health of the claimant or others were they found not to have LCW. Substantial risk that can be avoided through reasonable adjustments to the claimant’s workplace or by taking prescribed medication or treatment will not count.
Legislation
Regulations provide that a claimant can be treated as having LCW where there is a substantial risk to the health of any person if the claimant were found not to have LCW.
For ESA, regulation 29 of the Employment and Support Allowance Regulations 2008 and regulation 25 of the Employment and Support Allowance Regulations 2013 provide -
A claimant who does not have limited capability for work as determined in accordance with the limited capability for work assessment is to be treated as having limited capability for work if paragraph (2) applies to the claimant.
Subject to paragraph (3) this paragraph applies if ... (b) the claimant suffers from some specific disease or bodily or mental disablement and, by reasons of such disease or disablement, there would be a substantial risk to the mental or physical health of any person if the claimant were found not to have limited capability for work.
Paragraph (2)(b) does not apply where the risk could be reduced by a significant amount by - (a) reasonable adjustments being made in the claimant’s workplace; or (b) the claimant taking medication to manage the claimant’s condition where such medication has been prescribed for the claimant by a registered medical practitioner treating the claimant.
For universal credit, paragraph 4 of schedule 8 to the Universal Credit Regulations 2013 provides that a claimant is to be treated as having limited capability for work if the circumstances below apply -
The claimant is suffering from a specific illness, disease or disablement by reason of which there would be a substantial risk to the physical or mental health of any person were the claimant found not to have limited capability for work.
This paragraph does not apply where the risk could be reduced by a significant amount by - (a) reasonable adjustments being made in the claimant's workplace; or (b) the claimant taking medication to manage their condition where such medication has been prescribed for the claimant by a registered medical practitioner treating the claimant.
The medical evidence sent on paper has to be “robust” to enable the test for benefit to be met, and should include comments about how functioning is affected.
Gary
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