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4 years 4 months ago #254243 by Sarah-Lee
PIP form - anxiety and driving was created by Sarah-Lee
Hi everyone.
I have MS and anxiety. On the mobility question I want to explain that I don’t like to drive far on my own because I worry about getting panicky. I’m now thinking/worrying that if I explain this they could take my license away, even though I am perfectly safe and drive my children to school etc.
Any thoughts on this please?
Thank you

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4 years 4 months ago #254247 by Gary
Replied by Gary on topic PIP form - anxiety and driving
Hi Sarah-Lee

Welcome to the forum, you might want to have a look at the following FAQ which explains where everything is.

Welcome to Benefits and Work .

PIP is not awarded because of the condition but rather the limitations that result and prevent a claimant from completing a range of everyday activities. Have a look at our PIP Claim guide for a better understanding of the criteria you will need to meet.

www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip

There are two distinct issues with a claimant driving, one that is reasonable and one that is less so.

First, the DWP will argue that someone who drives has good cognitive ability as the process of driving requires the driver to be aware of what is going on around them, to be able to pre-empt situations that they are approaching and to be able to manage the operation of the vehicle.

They will also argue that it show good navigation skills and an ability to plan a route, however, claimants might be able to argue that if only one journey is undertaken and the claimant had to be shown that route, that they are in fact not able to plan or navigate a route, but I think there is little flexibility in this argument.

Secondly, the DWP view driving as a physical activity, for example holding the wheel requires a level of dexterity, strength and endurance in their hands, arms and shoulders, They also believe that the operation of the pedals is akin to walking and so someone who can drive can also walk. I (for what it is worth as I don't do assessments) think that this argument is very weak, however, most people drive a car to go somewhere and having arrived at that place they may then need to then walk to complete their journey.

If you have any further questions, then please return to the forum.

Gary

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4 years 4 months ago #254249 by BennyFit
Replied by BennyFit on topic PIP form - anxiety and driving
I cannot understand why the driving matters as that's what motobility is for and also they don't ask if you drive an automatic or have an adaptive car. You can drive with no legs.
Some people with severe anxiety find driving to be a safe bubble and it can be calming. Under the equality act 2010 driving a car should not affect the DWP decision.
If you are capable of driving that's fine. There isn't a section about driving on the PIP form.

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4 years 4 months ago #254250 by Michelle
Replied by Michelle on topic PIP form - anxiety and driving
Hi Sarah-Lee,

I just wanted to thank you for asking a question I had not put much thought into. I have my Pip telephone assessment on Wednesday and I am so anxious over the driving question. I rely so much on my car but I have to admit that using it has become difficult due to pain, I think I would be better off with an automatic car but I am unable to afford one so I have been relying upon my bf for driving me places which has had an impact on my overall self confidence and feeling of inadequate. I am so anxious about the phone call and being unable to get my point across.
Gary- thank you answering the question so well, you have given me some great things to think about.
Best wishes to you both.

Many thanks,
Michelle

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4 years 4 months ago #254263 by BIS
Replied by BIS on topic PIP form - anxiety and driving
Hi Benny

I can give you an example of why car driving matters to the DWP. One claimant recently had a condition that caused them extreme pain, and weakness in their upper arms and problems in one leg. They also took a large amount of painkillers. They then said that they drove a car several times a week. The DWP said from what they said it was clear they should not be driving and informed the DVLA. This might be an extreme case, but sometimes claimants appear to contradict what they say in terms of the other criteria, but will then drive. I'm not saying the DWP's arguments are right - just explaining why they ask people about it. Obviously, the issues are different if its a mental health issue, but questions will still be asked about it for mobility.

BIS

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4 years 4 months ago #254268 by Sarah-Lee
Replied by Sarah-Lee on topic PIP form - anxiety and driving
Thank you.
As well as not feeling confident with driving, I don’t use public transport. Would it be better to not mention driving at all and just explain about public transport?
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