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4 years 1 month ago #257537 by Tenja
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I am due to officially retire in Oct 2021 at age 66 I receive a small amount of PIP on mobility in 2017 and the award was extended due to COVID,
He it becomes interesting I received a letter saying it was extended until January 2022 then received a letter in February 2021 to say they are reviewing it and sent me a review PIP form.
My original award was for mobility mainly although it was recognised I did have care needs but not enough to receive an award. I did not challenge or contest it as quite honestly I only wanted the blue badge {I had COPD} however in almost 4 years my care needs have changed and I have completed this in detail in the review form - I am awaiting the telephone assessment / outcome.
Going back to my main question if I formally retire in October [which I don't think I have to as I have worked from home and can work round my disabilities] would PIP stop and I would then be expected to apply for attendance allowance
Thank you in anticipation and just to say what a brilliant site this has been.
He it becomes interesting I received a letter saying it was extended until January 2022 then received a letter in February 2021 to say they are reviewing it and sent me a review PIP form.
My original award was for mobility mainly although it was recognised I did have care needs but not enough to receive an award. I did not challenge or contest it as quite honestly I only wanted the blue badge {I had COPD} however in almost 4 years my care needs have changed and I have completed this in detail in the review form - I am awaiting the telephone assessment / outcome.
Going back to my main question if I formally retire in October [which I don't think I have to as I have worked from home and can work round my disabilities] would PIP stop and I would then be expected to apply for attendance allowance
Thank you in anticipation and just to say what a brilliant site this has been.
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4 years 1 month ago #257545 by LL26
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Hi JP,
If you have PIP before you retire this can continue providing you continue to have disabilities that would enable sufficient points to be scored. However post pension age you can not increase your mobility award. Whatever mobility award is agreed by DWP at your ongoing review, unless successfully appealed will be the mobility award you will remain at. So, if no mobility award now, then you won't ever get this again past 66 .
It is therefore really important that if you don't receive a mobility award now, or you believe that you should receive the enhanced rate, then it is important to consider an appeal. Daily Living awards are not affected by age.
If you get PIP after pension age, then you don't need to claim Attendance Allowance. (You can't get PIP and AA together ) There is no mobility element with AA, so if you can achieve PIP with a mobility element, this will clearly be more money than AA which only pays the equivalent of daily living.
If you haven't done so already, phone up the Pension Service to ask for a forecast as to how much retirement pension you will receive. This will enable you to do some financial planning ready for your retirement. If you will not have much income and/or savings, you may be eligible for Pension Credit. It may be worthwhile seeking advice from a welfare benefits advisor to check benefits entitlement after pension age.
Thank for your lovely comments about our website.
Good luck with your PIP and your forthcoming retirement!
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If you have PIP before you retire this can continue providing you continue to have disabilities that would enable sufficient points to be scored. However post pension age you can not increase your mobility award. Whatever mobility award is agreed by DWP at your ongoing review, unless successfully appealed will be the mobility award you will remain at. So, if no mobility award now, then you won't ever get this again past 66 .
It is therefore really important that if you don't receive a mobility award now, or you believe that you should receive the enhanced rate, then it is important to consider an appeal. Daily Living awards are not affected by age.
If you get PIP after pension age, then you don't need to claim Attendance Allowance. (You can't get PIP and AA together ) There is no mobility element with AA, so if you can achieve PIP with a mobility element, this will clearly be more money than AA which only pays the equivalent of daily living.
If you haven't done so already, phone up the Pension Service to ask for a forecast as to how much retirement pension you will receive. This will enable you to do some financial planning ready for your retirement. If you will not have much income and/or savings, you may be eligible for Pension Credit. It may be worthwhile seeking advice from a welfare benefits advisor to check benefits entitlement after pension age.
Thank for your lovely comments about our website.
Good luck with your PIP and your forthcoming retirement!
LL26
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4 years 1 month ago #257572 by Tenja
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Strangely before I read this I received a telephone assessment this morning before 9 am. Not sure if it was a good assessment or not I was breathless and needed to use my inhaler and she told me she was working from home and if I hear squeals in the background it is not her children but her rabbits?
Anyway at the conclusion she said I will receive an award - she couldn't say what it would be until she completed her assessment by the end of the week, what she could assure me was I would not lose any money and as I am due to retire this will be for 10 years.
Although my care needs have increased and my mobility significantly reduced I am wondering if it will remain the same which is a bit worrying because while I am good at fighting for other people I am not so good at challenging anything for myself.
I will let you know the outcome as I have used your excellent guides
Anyway at the conclusion she said I will receive an award - she couldn't say what it would be until she completed her assessment by the end of the week, what she could assure me was I would not lose any money and as I am due to retire this will be for 10 years.
Although my care needs have increased and my mobility significantly reduced I am wondering if it will remain the same which is a bit worrying because while I am good at fighting for other people I am not so good at challenging anything for myself.
I will let you know the outcome as I have used your excellent guides
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4 years 1 month ago #257574 by Catherine
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Hello JP,
Well that does sound hopeful. I was once given a wink by an assessor as I left the assessment room with someone I was supporting, which I took to be a good sign, and it was just that. However, I have never met such encouragement as your assessor gave.
I know just what you mean by the difference in fighting for someone else and for yourself. If you need to, perhaps you can find a PIP buddy who you can trust with all the intimate details which are revealed in the PIP process who can keep you motivated and fighting for the correct outcome.
Hopefully however that will not be needed, and you will soon have some good news to share with us.
Catherine
p.s. I just had to google rabbits squealing - apparently this is not only something they do but are quite expressive in their squealing, with different squeals showing anything from pleasure to distress. As Gary says - every day is a learning day.
Well that does sound hopeful. I was once given a wink by an assessor as I left the assessment room with someone I was supporting, which I took to be a good sign, and it was just that. However, I have never met such encouragement as your assessor gave.
I know just what you mean by the difference in fighting for someone else and for yourself. If you need to, perhaps you can find a PIP buddy who you can trust with all the intimate details which are revealed in the PIP process who can keep you motivated and fighting for the correct outcome.
Hopefully however that will not be needed, and you will soon have some good news to share with us.
Catherine
p.s. I just had to google rabbits squealing - apparently this is not only something they do but are quite expressive in their squealing, with different squeals showing anything from pleasure to distress. As Gary says - every day is a learning day.
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4 years 4 weeks ago #257760 by Tenja
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*****UPDATE*******
You were right Catherine I was successful and I got enhanced mobility but standard care. I am over the moon with the award. The DWP rep read the letter out to me so a big shout out for Bill who was so patient and read everything out. I did ask for the medical report and I am not sure how it was standard only but more out of interest than anything as I don't think I will appeal.
Just one question tho, my husband has had to step up and has become my carer - we both work so he would not be entitled to claim carers allowance anyway but do I have to have enhanced care for him to be entitled if in the event things change.
The other most important thing is anyone going for a PIP review soft touch or otherwise, I would recommend they read your guides because there is no doubt in my mind that this helped me and even the health assessor thanked me for such detail. Reading the guides reminded me just how much help I did need with daily living which you do not realise so thank you Benefits and Work could not have done it without you x
You were right Catherine I was successful and I got enhanced mobility but standard care. I am over the moon with the award. The DWP rep read the letter out to me so a big shout out for Bill who was so patient and read everything out. I did ask for the medical report and I am not sure how it was standard only but more out of interest than anything as I don't think I will appeal.
Just one question tho, my husband has had to step up and has become my carer - we both work so he would not be entitled to claim carers allowance anyway but do I have to have enhanced care for him to be entitled if in the event things change.
The other most important thing is anyone going for a PIP review soft touch or otherwise, I would recommend they read your guides because there is no doubt in my mind that this helped me and even the health assessor thanked me for such detail. Reading the guides reminded me just how much help I did need with daily living which you do not realise so thank you Benefits and Work could not have done it without you x
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4 years 4 weeks ago #257762 by LL26
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Hi JP,
Well done on your PIP result, it is always nice to hear good news stories.
If you wished you could appeal, but there is an outside chance you could lose what you have gained. Sometimes it is better to quit whilst you are still vaguely ahead!
Depending on how much your husband earns, he could claim carer's allowance. (Assuming that he is under pension age.) CA can be paid when the person cared for has either rate of PIP Daily Living. The limit is £128 per week. This could mean your husband could work some hours and still claim CA. Alternatively another person could care for you, and they could claim CA. Your husband would also have to show he cares for you for over 35 hrs per week.
For you work, if this is becoming difficult make sure that your employer makes any reasonable adjustment in order to accommodate your disability. You could also ask for a workplace assessment from an OT to see if what could help.
Anyway once again thanks for sharing your news.
LL26
Well done on your PIP result, it is always nice to hear good news stories.
If you wished you could appeal, but there is an outside chance you could lose what you have gained. Sometimes it is better to quit whilst you are still vaguely ahead!
Depending on how much your husband earns, he could claim carer's allowance. (Assuming that he is under pension age.) CA can be paid when the person cared for has either rate of PIP Daily Living. The limit is £128 per week. This could mean your husband could work some hours and still claim CA. Alternatively another person could care for you, and they could claim CA. Your husband would also have to show he cares for you for over 35 hrs per week.
For you work, if this is becoming difficult make sure that your employer makes any reasonable adjustment in order to accommodate your disability. You could also ask for a workplace assessment from an OT to see if what could help.
Anyway once again thanks for sharing your news.
LL26
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