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3 years 11 months ago #259056 by Gemma
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Hi
Could somebody help clarify for me the need for assistance from another person/assistance dog for the purpose of carrying out a journey.
I understand the care need has to be for the majority of the week. I have the need for having an assistance dog with me for all journeys.
The days per week that I undertake journeys varies, but it is everytime I do go out that I need my dog with me.
Do I have to prove I go out for half of the week/month in order to qualify. If there was a week/weeks I was unable to go out not qualify me even though I still had the need if I was able to?
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Could somebody help clarify for me the need for assistance from another person/assistance dog for the purpose of carrying out a journey.
I understand the care need has to be for the majority of the week. I have the need for having an assistance dog with me for all journeys.
The days per week that I undertake journeys varies, but it is everytime I do go out that I need my dog with me.
Do I have to prove I go out for half of the week/month in order to qualify. If there was a week/weeks I was unable to go out not qualify me even though I still had the need if I was able to?
Thanks
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3 years 11 months ago #259101 by Catherine
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Hello Gemma,
It is actually the percentage of journeys which you undertake rather than the number you take a week.
So if you only go out once a week, but you always require assisstance that counts as 100%.
Hope that helps,
Catherine
It is actually the percentage of journeys which you undertake rather than the number you take a week.
So if you only go out once a week, but you always require assisstance that counts as 100%.
Hope that helps,
Catherine
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3 years 11 months ago #259137 by LL26
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Replied by LL26 on topic Carrying out journeys
Hi Gemma,
I think I can clarify the 'majority rules' a bit more.
The PIP regulations allow points when a descriptor activity applies for the 'majority of days'. Whilst this might be the same as the majority of time , it may not be!
The rules stipulate that if you can't do an activity or need some sort of help for any part of the day as long as it is not a trivial amount of time then you score the relevant points. So the majority of days is the majority if days when at some point you can't do an activity in some way.
But... (Always a but!) If you struggle with 2 or more activities under any one descriptor section, but no one activity reaches the majority of days, then you can aggregate the activities. So if you can't do Descriptor 1b for 10 days per month, 1c for 5 days a month and 1e for 4 days, if you add them up it comes to 19 which is over half the days. In this scenario you would get points for 1b, as this is the option that applies most. If more than one activity applies equally, and either you need to aggregate or both apply for the majority if days then the higher points will always apply whatever that is. This is PIP Regulations 2013 reg. 7.
(Please note however that this is the law most often not applied by DWP!!!)
To put this in context of your query about journeys. The above rules apply to every time you go out, or attempt to go out.
Catherine is absolutely right. If you need your assistance dog any time you go out, be it once a week once month or 3 times a day then you ALWAYS need the assistance. If you are filling out the form, you should state "I can not go out without my assistance dog. " You might then want to add what sort of assistance dog it is, and how/why you need it, and the support it provides. Does it totally remove the problems you have by having him with you, or does it merely help sufficiently to allow at least some independence? Explain what happens.
I hope the above helps.
Good luck.
LL26
I think I can clarify the 'majority rules' a bit more.
The PIP regulations allow points when a descriptor activity applies for the 'majority of days'. Whilst this might be the same as the majority of time , it may not be!
The rules stipulate that if you can't do an activity or need some sort of help for any part of the day as long as it is not a trivial amount of time then you score the relevant points. So the majority of days is the majority if days when at some point you can't do an activity in some way.
But... (Always a but!) If you struggle with 2 or more activities under any one descriptor section, but no one activity reaches the majority of days, then you can aggregate the activities. So if you can't do Descriptor 1b for 10 days per month, 1c for 5 days a month and 1e for 4 days, if you add them up it comes to 19 which is over half the days. In this scenario you would get points for 1b, as this is the option that applies most. If more than one activity applies equally, and either you need to aggregate or both apply for the majority if days then the higher points will always apply whatever that is. This is PIP Regulations 2013 reg. 7.
(Please note however that this is the law most often not applied by DWP!!!)
To put this in context of your query about journeys. The above rules apply to every time you go out, or attempt to go out.
Catherine is absolutely right. If you need your assistance dog any time you go out, be it once a week once month or 3 times a day then you ALWAYS need the assistance. If you are filling out the form, you should state "I can not go out without my assistance dog. " You might then want to add what sort of assistance dog it is, and how/why you need it, and the support it provides. Does it totally remove the problems you have by having him with you, or does it merely help sufficiently to allow at least some independence? Explain what happens.
I hope the above helps.
Good luck.
LL26
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