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3 years 7 months ago #263852 by Ava
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When I filled out the PIP form, I ran out of space to add two more conditions. As they are not the main conditions currently effecting me, I did not put them on the form. I do not think they would add much weight, is it worth adding? For your information the conditions are PMS and dyspepsia. I have evidence for Dyspepsia, including hospital, walk in centres and two E & R visits and an endoscopy procedure for it but I no longer take medication for it due to side effects. I have no evidence for PMS but I have complained about it to my GP and have been taking medication for it for more than 10 years.
Would it complicate my existing claim, which I am sure most of you might be aware of that the assesor put me 0 for everything, which I am currently responding to with a letter to the decision maker
Would it complicate my existing claim, which I am sure most of you might be aware of that the assesor put me 0 for everything, which I am currently responding to with a letter to the decision maker
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3 years 7 months ago #263858 by LL26
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Hi Ava,
As you may know PIP is awarded on the basis that you have health conditions that make it difficult for you to do a set of specified activities. This is why potentially some people with let's say MS may be able to achieve PIP and others genuinely can not. PIP is about function rather than just getting points for having a certain illness.
Logically, I am thinking that dyspepsia is only likely to be problem with eating, unless it eg causes choking that might require supervision, or maybe it promotes lack of appetite such that prompting is required? In this case it may well give rise to points, so in this example I would mention it. Or mention it, if could properly give rise to other descriptor points. However if you just get a grumbley tummy every so often, and take an Alka-Seltzer then it would probably weaken the claim. If by having dyspepsia it means you can't take certain medication which eg make walking less painful, then again that could have an effect (albeit indirectly) on descriptor activities so mention it. PMS, sounds like it could have a bigger impact, but think how specifically it affects PIP descriptors eg fatigue, pain, discomfort etc if there is an obvious effect or an indirect one as described above, then yes mention.
I know that the form says list all your health conditions, but a complete list saying everything such as sore toe and crooked tooth just sounds like you haven't really got much wrong with you and belittles the real health issues that really do impact on the ability to do many activities. It is a judgement call, because sometimes a seemingly small health problem can in the eyes of the patient actually be some thing that has a major impact. So to recap if it is a very trivial condition with little impact just leave it off, otherwise include.
I hope this helps.
LL26
As you may know PIP is awarded on the basis that you have health conditions that make it difficult for you to do a set of specified activities. This is why potentially some people with let's say MS may be able to achieve PIP and others genuinely can not. PIP is about function rather than just getting points for having a certain illness.
Logically, I am thinking that dyspepsia is only likely to be problem with eating, unless it eg causes choking that might require supervision, or maybe it promotes lack of appetite such that prompting is required? In this case it may well give rise to points, so in this example I would mention it. Or mention it, if could properly give rise to other descriptor points. However if you just get a grumbley tummy every so often, and take an Alka-Seltzer then it would probably weaken the claim. If by having dyspepsia it means you can't take certain medication which eg make walking less painful, then again that could have an effect (albeit indirectly) on descriptor activities so mention it. PMS, sounds like it could have a bigger impact, but think how specifically it affects PIP descriptors eg fatigue, pain, discomfort etc if there is an obvious effect or an indirect one as described above, then yes mention.
I know that the form says list all your health conditions, but a complete list saying everything such as sore toe and crooked tooth just sounds like you haven't really got much wrong with you and belittles the real health issues that really do impact on the ability to do many activities. It is a judgement call, because sometimes a seemingly small health problem can in the eyes of the patient actually be some thing that has a major impact. So to recap if it is a very trivial condition with little impact just leave it off, otherwise include.
I hope this helps.
LL26
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3 years 7 months ago #263859 by Ava
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Thank you for your very helpful response. I think that adding the dyspepsia would undermine my case, as it has been several years I have reported to the GP, although it was very severe at one point with with me unable to eat for 6 months and only being able to consume soup and juice, although I do suffer with it from time to time but not as often and not as severe for it to be a main condition.
In regards to the PMS, I get really bad period pains. On two occasions the pain has been so severe, that I have been unable to move and wanted to call 999, with the other occasion being just two weeks ago. I literally could not move and was crying in agony. I did not know it was PMS until the next day. I have been to the GP several times in regards to getting medication for pain. But I generally get severe pain from time to time that can have me on the floor, but not to the extent of not being able to move. When I was able to work or study, I would not go in during my menstraul period. I have been having this issue since a teenager, I remember as a teen that my tutor would question my attendance and I told her that I could not come in because of period pain and she mocked me and said how will you be able to work, if you can't come into high school because of period pain. Funny enough that is what I ended up doing, I have taken sick days often because of menstraul pain. But I have also because of severe anxiety and I feel mentioning this could mix things up. I did put my medication for it on the form but I did not put the condition, or mention it at all on my PIP form.
In regards to the PMS, I get really bad period pains. On two occasions the pain has been so severe, that I have been unable to move and wanted to call 999, with the other occasion being just two weeks ago. I literally could not move and was crying in agony. I did not know it was PMS until the next day. I have been to the GP several times in regards to getting medication for pain. But I generally get severe pain from time to time that can have me on the floor, but not to the extent of not being able to move. When I was able to work or study, I would not go in during my menstraul period. I have been having this issue since a teenager, I remember as a teen that my tutor would question my attendance and I told her that I could not come in because of period pain and she mocked me and said how will you be able to work, if you can't come into high school because of period pain. Funny enough that is what I ended up doing, I have taken sick days often because of menstraul pain. But I have also because of severe anxiety and I feel mentioning this could mix things up. I did put my medication for it on the form but I did not put the condition, or mention it at all on my PIP form.
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