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2 years 11 months ago #271143 by BIS
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Hi Roch82
The PA4 is the assessment report that was written if you had a telephone or face to face assessment. If it was a paper-based decision it is a PA3. i think you should have had a copy in your papers from the DWP in the appeal - but if you haven't got it, you need to get hold of it. It would tell you how the assessor made their decision and it is what the decision-maker based their original decision on.
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The PA4 is the assessment report that was written if you had a telephone or face to face assessment. If it was a paper-based decision it is a PA3. i think you should have had a copy in your papers from the DWP in the appeal - but if you haven't got it, you need to get hold of it. It would tell you how the assessor made their decision and it is what the decision-maker based their original decision on.
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2 years 11 months ago #271156 by Gordon
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Roch82
Your Tribunal could only consider your conditions and limitations as they were at the time of the Decision you appealed, any deterioration that occurred after this is legally excluded.
You would need to report a Change of Circumstances to the DWP for any deterioration to be looked at, but be sure that you will meet the criteria for a higher award as this will result in a full reassessment of your claim.
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Your Tribunal could only consider your conditions and limitations as they were at the time of the Decision you appealed, any deterioration that occurred after this is legally excluded.
You would need to report a Change of Circumstances to the DWP for any deterioration to be looked at, but be sure that you will meet the criteria for a higher award as this will result in a full reassessment of your claim.
Gordon
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2 years 11 months ago #271162 by denby
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Hi Rach82.
The PA4 is the assessor's report [by the assessor from IAS/Atos or Capita who grilled you over the phone or rarely now face to face.]
Or if it was done paper-based ie without giving you a full grilling, the report is called PA3.
It is your legal right to have a copy as soon as it is sent to the DWP Decision Maker department. This is supposed to be 48 hours from the assessment but can be sooner or later. Many people get a text to say it has been sent to DWP but not everybody does.
If much later you could have disputed it on the grounds of being 'not fit for purpose' because the assessor had taken too long and may not remember properly what was said.
Everyone should always get the PA4/PA3 to see whether it tells the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth - which is often not the case. As the Decision Makers are not medically qualified in any way, not even nurses like most of the assessors, they rely on the reports [and on the assessor's interpretation of your medical evidence] so if the report is wrong this is how the whole thing goes wrong for the claimant.
For any reader nearer the beginning of the process, it is possible and very worth trying to write in ASAP to contest coldly a bad report, do not wait for the decision if the report has point-losing errors.
Hoping that helps,
Denby
The PA4 is the assessor's report [by the assessor from IAS/Atos or Capita who grilled you over the phone or rarely now face to face.]
Or if it was done paper-based ie without giving you a full grilling, the report is called PA3.
It is your legal right to have a copy as soon as it is sent to the DWP Decision Maker department. This is supposed to be 48 hours from the assessment but can be sooner or later. Many people get a text to say it has been sent to DWP but not everybody does.
If much later you could have disputed it on the grounds of being 'not fit for purpose' because the assessor had taken too long and may not remember properly what was said.
Everyone should always get the PA4/PA3 to see whether it tells the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth - which is often not the case. As the Decision Makers are not medically qualified in any way, not even nurses like most of the assessors, they rely on the reports [and on the assessor's interpretation of your medical evidence] so if the report is wrong this is how the whole thing goes wrong for the claimant.
For any reader nearer the beginning of the process, it is possible and very worth trying to write in ASAP to contest coldly a bad report, do not wait for the decision if the report has point-losing errors.
Hoping that helps,
Denby
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