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1 year 3 months ago #282425 by Csm
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Still, slowly, trying to get through filling out the ' revamped 'form Now looking at 11. Planning and following a route to another place. Due to my wife's issues with Mobility coupled with another issues, i wont say as this would identify us to the DWP. However, mobility is the biggest issue which she's gone from full award to nothing to full mobility to nothing and then a 'deal' by the DWP from nothing to accept just the full mobility award if we withdrew our impending appointment with a tribunal hearing. As you can imagine, this ping ponging between acceptance then told she doesn't qualify despite the overwhelming evidence submitted over the past decade has had an effect on her mental health as basically by ignoring the evidence. filling out these forms just exasperates her mental wellbeing coupled with her mobility issues.
SO basically the question id like to ask is, do we submit all the previous evidence regarding this question to backup the fact there is documented evidence to prove her condition as the physical side has not improved as the consultants have said it wouldn't or just put no change in the hope whoever reads it looks at past supplied evidence before making a decision . Putting anything other than NO change has in the past generated a home visit, something she'd rather not have to face again.
I hope this makes some sense as we are getting frustrated with the whole process
SO basically the question id like to ask is, do we submit all the previous evidence regarding this question to backup the fact there is documented evidence to prove her condition as the physical side has not improved as the consultants have said it wouldn't or just put no change in the hope whoever reads it looks at past supplied evidence before making a decision . Putting anything other than NO change has in the past generated a home visit, something she'd rather not have to face again.
I hope this makes some sense as we are getting frustrated with the whole process
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1 year 3 months ago #282453 by Gary
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Hi Csm
We always advise claimants not just to put no change but to put an explanation.
Your wife is not required to walk pain free but any pain that restricts the distance that she can walk should be taken into account.
Specifically for the Moving Around activity, if you are able to walk but you are in severe pain when doing so, then you can argue that your walking is not to a necessary standard and should be disregarded.
The legal test requires you to stand and then move (walk), so if you have problems getting up then you should document these as well.
If you walk slowly then it must take you at least twice the time to cover the distance as a healthy person would, this could be down to the speed of your walking but could also be the result of having to stop.
You must be able to repeat the distance, so if you could walk it once but not then be able to walk it again within a reasonable timescale then you should be classed as unable to repeat the activity.
I'm afraid I can't tell you how to show your walking is more restricted but things you need to think about is what you can't do, for example where can you walk in your house, how far is the toilet from where you normally sit, things that will count against you are any trips that you make outside, so for example, how do you do your shopping?
You must be able to walk the distance you can, reliably and on the majority of days, both these terms are defined in the PIP Claim guide
benefitsandwork.co.uk/guides-for-claimants/pip
So you need to explain what you can do, how you are limited and why.
Any physical problems your wife has are covered by the Moving Around activity they will not be considered for Going Out.
The Going Out activity looks at three things.
Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.
Undertaking a Journey - this is to do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.
Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there any problems; cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact, if you cannot undertake a journey then you will not score points for following one and vice versa.
Gary
We always advise claimants not just to put no change but to put an explanation.
Your wife is not required to walk pain free but any pain that restricts the distance that she can walk should be taken into account.
Specifically for the Moving Around activity, if you are able to walk but you are in severe pain when doing so, then you can argue that your walking is not to a necessary standard and should be disregarded.
The legal test requires you to stand and then move (walk), so if you have problems getting up then you should document these as well.
If you walk slowly then it must take you at least twice the time to cover the distance as a healthy person would, this could be down to the speed of your walking but could also be the result of having to stop.
You must be able to repeat the distance, so if you could walk it once but not then be able to walk it again within a reasonable timescale then you should be classed as unable to repeat the activity.
I'm afraid I can't tell you how to show your walking is more restricted but things you need to think about is what you can't do, for example where can you walk in your house, how far is the toilet from where you normally sit, things that will count against you are any trips that you make outside, so for example, how do you do your shopping?
You must be able to walk the distance you can, reliably and on the majority of days, both these terms are defined in the PIP Claim guide
benefitsandwork.co.uk/guides-for-claimants/pip
So you need to explain what you can do, how you are limited and why.
Any physical problems your wife has are covered by the Moving Around activity they will not be considered for Going Out.
The Going Out activity looks at three things.
Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.
Undertaking a Journey - this is to do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.
Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there any problems; cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact, if you cannot undertake a journey then you will not score points for following one and vice versa.
Gary
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1 year 3 months ago #282591 by Csm
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Thankyou for that very helpful advice.
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