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1 year 3 months ago #282826 by Deeply Dippy
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Hi, I have posted a query but had no response but it could be that I was expecting it by email. I have had 4 points on the Planning of a Journey for the last 12 years. As a previous confident person as a younger woman I have had 4 Nervous Breakdowns and take
enough meds to put an elephant out. I got Full and Full on ~DLA and PIP. Up until 2019. I had a bad call on a telephone assessment
with a DA. Vile woman to say the least who threatened to cut the call 5 times and we never got to the Mobility questions as my husband told me to cut the call as I was getting darker and darker with this woman. It's part of my Personality Disorder that if anybody is aggressive with me that I get aggressive 10 fold. The Mobility questions were never answered. So they did a paper
assessment. Why the DWP does not take over or at least pull the call I don't know. Anyway I lost my Enhanced Mobility. MR
was a no no. I have so much evidence as to why I can't do journeys it's ridiculous. they have 31 years of evidence of my declining health. SO to keep it simple I asked for an appeal. And I have heard nothing. DWP also promised to provide me with the assessment
answers and why I was not awarded my points. I have heard nothing since 8th of June. Where do I go from here? Could it be that DwP has not sent Capita's responses because they know I should have been awarded the points. What differs this time is that I have
developed Dry Eye Syndrome and have to continually put drops in my eyes. I can't see without them and on the occasions I have attempted to drive I have to keep stopping to rewet them. I have Diabetic Retinopathy, Onset Cataracts and burst blood vessels.
which affects driving so I am a nervous wreck when I have to drive as my husband is very ill at the moment. Can somebody please help me. If DWP won't provide the Capita responses on questions that were not not answered I am stuck. I don't know how I get to Tribunal. Has a time limit gone past? Help please someone.
enough meds to put an elephant out. I got Full and Full on ~DLA and PIP. Up until 2019. I had a bad call on a telephone assessment
with a DA. Vile woman to say the least who threatened to cut the call 5 times and we never got to the Mobility questions as my husband told me to cut the call as I was getting darker and darker with this woman. It's part of my Personality Disorder that if anybody is aggressive with me that I get aggressive 10 fold. The Mobility questions were never answered. So they did a paper
assessment. Why the DWP does not take over or at least pull the call I don't know. Anyway I lost my Enhanced Mobility. MR
was a no no. I have so much evidence as to why I can't do journeys it's ridiculous. they have 31 years of evidence of my declining health. SO to keep it simple I asked for an appeal. And I have heard nothing. DWP also promised to provide me with the assessment
answers and why I was not awarded my points. I have heard nothing since 8th of June. Where do I go from here? Could it be that DwP has not sent Capita's responses because they know I should have been awarded the points. What differs this time is that I have
developed Dry Eye Syndrome and have to continually put drops in my eyes. I can't see without them and on the occasions I have attempted to drive I have to keep stopping to rewet them. I have Diabetic Retinopathy, Onset Cataracts and burst blood vessels.
which affects driving so I am a nervous wreck when I have to drive as my husband is very ill at the moment. Can somebody please help me. If DWP won't provide the Capita responses on questions that were not not answered I am stuck. I don't know how I get to Tribunal. Has a time limit gone past? Help please someone.
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1 year 3 months ago #282827 by Chris
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Hi Deeply Dippy (memories of Right Said Fred going through my mind here)
In relation to not hearing from DWP, it could be that there has been issues with Royal Mail and delivering. I do know that not so long ago, during the strikes, they had massive backlogs. If it's not that, you can contact them (DWP) on 0800 121 4433 Mon-Fri 9pm till 5pm, although getting an answer on the telephone can be extremely difficult, especially during their busy times. They should be able to advise you as to whether any correspondence has been issued to yourself, so this should help put your mind at ease in relation to that. As for your other issues you have mentioned, maybe's one of the more experienced Moderators can assist? I am new to this role, and would hate to advise incorrectly.
Regards, Chris.
In relation to not hearing from DWP, it could be that there has been issues with Royal Mail and delivering. I do know that not so long ago, during the strikes, they had massive backlogs. If it's not that, you can contact them (DWP) on 0800 121 4433 Mon-Fri 9pm till 5pm, although getting an answer on the telephone can be extremely difficult, especially during their busy times. They should be able to advise you as to whether any correspondence has been issued to yourself, so this should help put your mind at ease in relation to that. As for your other issues you have mentioned, maybe's one of the more experienced Moderators can assist? I am new to this role, and would hate to advise incorrectly.
Regards, Chris.
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1 year 3 months ago #282832 by Gordon
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DD
OK, let's go back to the basics.
You say you have requested an appeal, who did you make the request to, how and when?
A request for appeal needs to be made to the Tribunal Service, once the request is made you should receive confirmation in writing from the TS.
Gordon
OK, let's go back to the basics.
You say you have requested an appeal, who did you make the request to, how and when?
A request for appeal needs to be made to the Tribunal Service, once the request is made you should receive confirmation in writing from the TS.
Gordon
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1 year 2 months ago #282864 by LL26
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Hi Deeply Dippy,
If you have sent in an appeal online there is usually automatic confirmation. If you sent in the application via post then it normally takes 2 or 3 weeks to get confirmation. As per Gordon, you need to send the application to the Tribunal and not DWP. Please check that this is the case, and if not resend everything to the tribunal office immediately, and if you are outside the 1 month period, explain that you became confused and sent the application to DWP and indicate when you sent this. It is likely that providing you are not too late and explain yourself properly then a late appeal should be allowed. Of course if you did send the appeal to the tribunal it wouldn't hurt to phone them and ask what's happened/ has the appeal been received.
Once the appeal is properly in, and acknowledged the tribunal service will notify DWP- they have duty to provide copies of all the paperwork which will include the claim or review form and medical or other evidence you have sent in, together with fuller explanation of the DWP decision and crucially copies of the assessment report. These papers, often referred to as the appeal bundle are also sent to the tribunal.
Once you have this paperwork (and yes certainly chase this if after 1 mth post acknowledgement of receipt of appeal this has appeared,) then go through it. You can then criticise the assessment as appropriate. The best way of doing this is to work out 4 or 5 bullet points grouping the major criticisms eg •assessor repeatedly wrote down incorrect answers and did not appear to listen
•assessor was rude, and talked over me
• assessor failed to understand the impact of pain
Etc etc...
Don't call the assessor a liar as it is unlikely you can prove this. But incorrect recording or not listening is provable!
That said, if you recorded the assessment and what was said has clearly been misrecorded y the assessor there is no problem with complaining that the contents of the assessment report do not reflect the information provided by you. You can provide a transcript if you like and also refer to rudeness etc and again evidence this with the recording.
Don’t worry if the recording was illicit. You have made it specifically to be assured that the report is accurate, and if it isn't you have solid proof.
If you have no recording, don't worry, just confirm in you arguments that you felt intimated, assessor was being rude etc and simply explain why.
Often when I write arguments (sometimes called submissions) I will write a background paragraph about disease, diagnosis, and overview of disabilities. Next add the few bullet points, about the assessment and give examples of the worst problems with the report, then you can go through each descriptor set in more detail saying what DWP awarded, and why it is/isn't correct. (No need to write more than a brief sentence if you do agree with DWP.) Say what points you should be awarded. Remember if 2 or more descriptors in a set apply equally then the highest value is the correct award, if 2 or more descriptors in a set apply unequally the most prevalent is the correct one.
I hope this helps.
LL26
If you have sent in an appeal online there is usually automatic confirmation. If you sent in the application via post then it normally takes 2 or 3 weeks to get confirmation. As per Gordon, you need to send the application to the Tribunal and not DWP. Please check that this is the case, and if not resend everything to the tribunal office immediately, and if you are outside the 1 month period, explain that you became confused and sent the application to DWP and indicate when you sent this. It is likely that providing you are not too late and explain yourself properly then a late appeal should be allowed. Of course if you did send the appeal to the tribunal it wouldn't hurt to phone them and ask what's happened/ has the appeal been received.
Once the appeal is properly in, and acknowledged the tribunal service will notify DWP- they have duty to provide copies of all the paperwork which will include the claim or review form and medical or other evidence you have sent in, together with fuller explanation of the DWP decision and crucially copies of the assessment report. These papers, often referred to as the appeal bundle are also sent to the tribunal.
Once you have this paperwork (and yes certainly chase this if after 1 mth post acknowledgement of receipt of appeal this has appeared,) then go through it. You can then criticise the assessment as appropriate. The best way of doing this is to work out 4 or 5 bullet points grouping the major criticisms eg •assessor repeatedly wrote down incorrect answers and did not appear to listen
•assessor was rude, and talked over me
• assessor failed to understand the impact of pain
Etc etc...
Don't call the assessor a liar as it is unlikely you can prove this. But incorrect recording or not listening is provable!
That said, if you recorded the assessment and what was said has clearly been misrecorded y the assessor there is no problem with complaining that the contents of the assessment report do not reflect the information provided by you. You can provide a transcript if you like and also refer to rudeness etc and again evidence this with the recording.
Don’t worry if the recording was illicit. You have made it specifically to be assured that the report is accurate, and if it isn't you have solid proof.
If you have no recording, don't worry, just confirm in you arguments that you felt intimated, assessor was being rude etc and simply explain why.
Often when I write arguments (sometimes called submissions) I will write a background paragraph about disease, diagnosis, and overview of disabilities. Next add the few bullet points, about the assessment and give examples of the worst problems with the report, then you can go through each descriptor set in more detail saying what DWP awarded, and why it is/isn't correct. (No need to write more than a brief sentence if you do agree with DWP.) Say what points you should be awarded. Remember if 2 or more descriptors in a set apply equally then the highest value is the correct award, if 2 or more descriptors in a set apply unequally the most prevalent is the correct one.
I hope this helps.
LL26
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