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1 week 5 days ago #298483 by AnonymousM
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Hi, I'm hoping someone can help. I've recently migrated from ESA to UC and it all went smoothly. However, I have just received a letter from the council saying I am now liable to pay council tax!
I was getting a 100% reduction, and was led to believe that I won't be any worse off on UC than I was on ESA, yet have a bill for £100 a month as their scheme doesn't disregard UC limited capability for work.
They say I can apply for a discretionary discount, but apart from that there doesn't appear to be anything I can do. Is there any way to fight this?
My second question is with regard to taking a lodger. Are there any drawback to this? I live in private rented accommodation, and have a spare room, but don't want to lose my transitional payment or single occupier discount as it'd make renting a room out pointless.
Lastly, if I move home, do I get to keep my transitional protection? Or would a change of circumstances make me lose it?
I was getting a 100% reduction, and was led to believe that I won't be any worse off on UC than I was on ESA, yet have a bill for £100 a month as their scheme doesn't disregard UC limited capability for work.
They say I can apply for a discretionary discount, but apart from that there doesn't appear to be anything I can do. Is there any way to fight this?
My second question is with regard to taking a lodger. Are there any drawback to this? I live in private rented accommodation, and have a spare room, but don't want to lose my transitional payment or single occupier discount as it'd make renting a room out pointless.
Lastly, if I move home, do I get to keep my transitional protection? Or would a change of circumstances make me lose it?
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1 week 5 days ago #298488 by David
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Hi AnonymousM,
I have heard of this issue with Council Tax Reduction and some Local Authorities taking into account the LCWRA element. Which Council area are you in?
You won't lose your Transitional Protection just from moving area.
Rent payments from lodgers are disregarded completely in UC. Have a look at this informative article by Citizens Advice.
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/lodgin...20Credit%20you%20get.
David
I have heard of this issue with Council Tax Reduction and some Local Authorities taking into account the LCWRA element. Which Council area are you in?
You won't lose your Transitional Protection just from moving area.
Rent payments from lodgers are disregarded completely in UC. Have a look at this informative article by Citizens Advice.
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/lodgin...20Credit%20you%20get.
David
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1 week 5 days ago #298501 by AnonymousM
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I'm in Teignbridge.
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1 week 4 days ago #298504 by David
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Hi AnonymousM,
You will find that assistance with Council Tax from Local Authorities tends to vary with political party. With Labour and Liberal controlled Councils tending to give more assistance to those on Benefits and Tory Councils such as Wandsworth and unfortunately Teignbridge less.
So Teignbridge in their policy document state that those in receipt of the LCWRA element should not be given more favourable treatment than those without and if they are short of money they must go through the Exceptional Hardship Fund which is the fund for rough sleepers amongst others.
Here is an extract from Teignbridge Council policy document--
Following the move to our banded scheme in 2020 there were concerns
expressed around the impact on couple households where one or potentially
both parties had limited capability for work and also households in receipt of the
limited capability for work related activity component within their Universal
Credit award.
4.4 Having reviewed the financial impact on households with these characteristics
there is no evidence that these claimants are less able to afford their council tax
liability than households without these characteristics. The collection rates for
these cohorts are on a par with other Council Tax Reduction claimants with the
majority up to date with payment of their council tax liabilities. Analysis of the
claims for exceptional hardship indicate the majority have sufficient disposable
income to afford their liabilities.
For the minority of claimants who do not have sufficient disposable income, the
exceptional hardship scheme delivers needs-based support comprising financial
and/or budgeting support. The intention of the exceptional hardship scheme is to act
as a safety net for those whose needs the main scheme does not meet. This is
considered a more cost effective and fairer approach than providing blanket support
to a particular cohort or in relation to a particular characteristic when it is not required
in the majority of cases.
David
You will find that assistance with Council Tax from Local Authorities tends to vary with political party. With Labour and Liberal controlled Councils tending to give more assistance to those on Benefits and Tory Councils such as Wandsworth and unfortunately Teignbridge less.
So Teignbridge in their policy document state that those in receipt of the LCWRA element should not be given more favourable treatment than those without and if they are short of money they must go through the Exceptional Hardship Fund which is the fund for rough sleepers amongst others.
Here is an extract from Teignbridge Council policy document--
Following the move to our banded scheme in 2020 there were concerns
expressed around the impact on couple households where one or potentially
both parties had limited capability for work and also households in receipt of the
limited capability for work related activity component within their Universal
Credit award.
4.4 Having reviewed the financial impact on households with these characteristics
there is no evidence that these claimants are less able to afford their council tax
liability than households without these characteristics. The collection rates for
these cohorts are on a par with other Council Tax Reduction claimants with the
majority up to date with payment of their council tax liabilities. Analysis of the
claims for exceptional hardship indicate the majority have sufficient disposable
income to afford their liabilities.
For the minority of claimants who do not have sufficient disposable income, the
exceptional hardship scheme delivers needs-based support comprising financial
and/or budgeting support. The intention of the exceptional hardship scheme is to act
as a safety net for those whose needs the main scheme does not meet. This is
considered a more cost effective and fairer approach than providing blanket support
to a particular cohort or in relation to a particular characteristic when it is not required
in the majority of cases.
David
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1 week 4 days ago #298509 by AnonymousM
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Surely the LCWRA is supposed to be spent on my illness needs though?
If I had waited on ESA for more time, I would have saved a few hundred pounds too. It feels that it's unfair, as ESA claimants are treated differently. The whole situation is sickening, is there no legal challenge on this? It's just another way they are squeezing us.
I was told I would be no worse off on UC, that is a blatant lie by the government. Councils are just local government, so it feels like they're giving with one hand and taking away with another. I've literally been in tears about this as I can barely afford my rent as it is, have been on the council list for years and not a property in sight, so I really don't know what to do.
If I had waited on ESA for more time, I would have saved a few hundred pounds too. It feels that it's unfair, as ESA claimants are treated differently. The whole situation is sickening, is there no legal challenge on this? It's just another way they are squeezing us.
I was told I would be no worse off on UC, that is a blatant lie by the government. Councils are just local government, so it feels like they're giving with one hand and taking away with another. I've literally been in tears about this as I can barely afford my rent as it is, have been on the council list for years and not a property in sight, so I really don't know what to do.
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1 week 4 days ago #298510 by Gary
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Hi AnonymousM
As it is a discretionary award you cannot appeal the decision, you can ask them to look at the decision again or you can ask for a Judicial Review but this route can be expensive so you do need to seek advice from your local Welfare Rights Organisation; advicelocal.uk, they will be able to take all your circumstances into consideration.
Gary
As it is a discretionary award you cannot appeal the decision, you can ask them to look at the decision again or you can ask for a Judicial Review but this route can be expensive so you do need to seek advice from your local Welfare Rights Organisation; advicelocal.uk, they will be able to take all your circumstances into consideration.
Gary
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