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2 weeks 2 days ago #300997 by dannyufcfan
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Apologies if I've missed a sticky thread on this.
I claim UC- LCWRA but no PIP, I understand that if the new changes do eventually come into effect then I would need PIP living to be able to claim the new UC - health element.
The chart on page 71-72 of the green paper says that they are looking to scrap the WCA in 28/29.
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6...pathways-to-work.pdf
Does this then mean that under this proposal I have until 2028 to claim PIP daily living? Or would I need to make that claim earlier?
I appreciative that this is all new and lots of things are up in the air.
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I claim UC- LCWRA but no PIP, I understand that if the new changes do eventually come into effect then I would need PIP living to be able to claim the new UC - health element.
The chart on page 71-72 of the green paper says that they are looking to scrap the WCA in 28/29.
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6...pathways-to-work.pdf
Does this then mean that under this proposal I have until 2028 to claim PIP daily living? Or would I need to make that claim earlier?
I appreciative that this is all new and lots of things are up in the air.
Thanks/
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1 week 6 days ago #301404 by Gary
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Hi dannyufcfan
I received the following information from the DWP in their newsletter Touchbase today which may answer your question.
Please note there will be no immediate changes to PIP. Our intention is that the changes will apply to new claims and award reviews from 2026, subject to parliamentary approval.
If someone is getting PIP now and could be affected by the changes we plan to make to eligibility, the changes will only apply at their next award review.
Accessible versions of the Green Paper will be published soon, after which the full 12-week consultation period will commence. The consultation will seek views on the approaches government should consider around reform of the health and disability benefits system and employment support and will gather diverse perspectives to help refine the proposed reforms, ensuring they are effective and inclusive.
More information can be found on GOV.UK. www.gov.uk/government/news/biggest-shake...5&utm_content=100386
Gary
I received the following information from the DWP in their newsletter Touchbase today which may answer your question.
Please note there will be no immediate changes to PIP. Our intention is that the changes will apply to new claims and award reviews from 2026, subject to parliamentary approval.
If someone is getting PIP now and could be affected by the changes we plan to make to eligibility, the changes will only apply at their next award review.
Accessible versions of the Green Paper will be published soon, after which the full 12-week consultation period will commence. The consultation will seek views on the approaches government should consider around reform of the health and disability benefits system and employment support and will gather diverse perspectives to help refine the proposed reforms, ensuring they are effective and inclusive.
More information can be found on GOV.UK. www.gov.uk/government/news/biggest-shake...5&utm_content=100386
Gary
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1 week 5 days ago #301425 by DJMH15
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I can’t believe they didn’t think to make the green paper accessible first time round…says it all really
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1 week 5 days ago #301446 by somebody-else
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I take it that it's not occurred to anyone in alleged 'control' that when this change takes effect the benefits' bill is going to go up again, as a lot of people who currently aren't claiming PIP because they can manage financially with 'just' their ESA are going to claim PIP if they're about to lose their LCW/LCWRA status?
I didn't claim DLA (as it was then) when I was first severely disabled, because I was managing financially on my IS and SDA and quite frankly I was too ill to deal with the claim process at that time. I cannot imagine I was the only one.
And which buffoon first got the idea that it's too easy to claim disability benefits? It's never been easy and each government shake up makes it still harder to qualify.
I didn't claim DLA (as it was then) when I was first severely disabled, because I was managing financially on my IS and SDA and quite frankly I was too ill to deal with the claim process at that time. I cannot imagine I was the only one.
And which buffoon first got the idea that it's too easy to claim disability benefits? It's never been easy and each government shake up makes it still harder to qualify.
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1 week 5 days ago #301453 by Chris
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Hi somebody - else,
This is very good logic, and I'll be honest, I never even thought of this also - so I agree with you - another stupid idea. I've recently just filled in a petition for taxing the super rich. Why should people with disabilities and other health issues be penalised through no fault of their own - especially if they've paid their taxes when working, and then all of a sudden becoming ill!
I also agree with the claiming comment - it's incredibly difficult and challenging, and emotion draining also. Maybe it's about time they got an AI based government member who can analyse and hopefully figure out solutions to these ongoing major problems we've been experiencing for years!
Chris.
This is very good logic, and I'll be honest, I never even thought of this also - so I agree with you - another stupid idea. I've recently just filled in a petition for taxing the super rich. Why should people with disabilities and other health issues be penalised through no fault of their own - especially if they've paid their taxes when working, and then all of a sudden becoming ill!
I also agree with the claiming comment - it's incredibly difficult and challenging, and emotion draining also. Maybe it's about time they got an AI based government member who can analyse and hopefully figure out solutions to these ongoing major problems we've been experiencing for years!
Chris.
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1 week 5 days ago #301463 by somebody-else
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I have to admit, it's taken a few days for this to occur to me. I should be okay - I'm already on enhanced PIP for both components and I did, thankfully, reach 4 points for one of the daily living descriptors, but there are a lot of people out there who do rely on totting up a lot of low scores to get the requisite points. Something Liz Kendall is also obviously unaware of is the fact that when one has a lot of issues, they don't happen in isolation - everything has a knock-on effect on everything else. We can only hope that once the green paper consultation is complete, this particularly spiteful idea doesn't make it to the white paper. I'm beginning to think that when I complete my letter to LK, RR, KS et al. I should also send in all the info I use to complete my PIP and ESA claims. There seems to be far too many people in government who think the plural of anecdote is data.Hi somebody - else, This is very good logic, and I'll be honest, I never even thought of this also - so I agree with you - another stupid idea. I've recently just filled in a petition for taxing the super rich. Why should people with disabilities and other health issues be penalised through no fault of their own - especially if they've paid their taxes when working, and then all of a sudden becoming ill! I also agree with the claiming comment - it's incredibly difficult and challenging, and emotion draining also. Maybe it's about time they got an AI based government member who can analyse and hopefully figure out solutions to these ongoing major problems we've been experiencing for years! Chris.
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