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6 days 8 hours ago #306676 by Arthritic Annie
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Hi, any help would be so much appreciated. I know I've asked some of these questions before ( I think) but just double checking;
- I currently get ESA- the one from working all your life. I am not entitled to anything means tested.
- Is this payable indefinitely if your condition/ illness dosnt improve?
-How often is it likely to be reassessed? ( the assessor's report said they didn't expect any change for at least 2years if any)
I'm just trying to work out possible changes coming down the track. I read somewhere the changes proposed for Esa to turn into a temporary insurance is only applicable to new claimants and existing claimants arnt affected. Do you become a new claimants when reassessed? Or if they withdraw it and I challenge it etc.
- I also get PIP, and some of these questions are also wondering;
- if I was to lose my pip on my next assessment which would be due sometime in 2027- is a mr/ tribunal etc all counted as a new claim?
- if my condition was to improve and I was nolonger claiming pip and I was told relapse ( not likely but I can hope) would that then be counted as a new claim?
- Or is the fact i would already be in the system still counted as existing?
If there WCA is removed and the PIP assessment changed all in 2028 would be be assessed under the new 2028 assessment or keep the right to the existing assessment?
- if we do keep the right on paper to keep existing assessment would that not be very awkward for assessors to remember which criteria they're supposed to be using and lead to more mistakes. Pip being removed then I'm assuming you have to reapply as a new claimants?
Sorry for the 40 questions which probably make no sense and you probably don't have a crystal ball for half of them but just thought I'd ask anyway in hope.
Thank you.
- I currently get ESA- the one from working all your life. I am not entitled to anything means tested.
- Is this payable indefinitely if your condition/ illness dosnt improve?
-How often is it likely to be reassessed? ( the assessor's report said they didn't expect any change for at least 2years if any)
I'm just trying to work out possible changes coming down the track. I read somewhere the changes proposed for Esa to turn into a temporary insurance is only applicable to new claimants and existing claimants arnt affected. Do you become a new claimants when reassessed? Or if they withdraw it and I challenge it etc.
- I also get PIP, and some of these questions are also wondering;
- if I was to lose my pip on my next assessment which would be due sometime in 2027- is a mr/ tribunal etc all counted as a new claim?
- if my condition was to improve and I was nolonger claiming pip and I was told relapse ( not likely but I can hope) would that then be counted as a new claim?
- Or is the fact i would already be in the system still counted as existing?
If there WCA is removed and the PIP assessment changed all in 2028 would be be assessed under the new 2028 assessment or keep the right to the existing assessment?
- if we do keep the right on paper to keep existing assessment would that not be very awkward for assessors to remember which criteria they're supposed to be using and lead to more mistakes. Pip being removed then I'm assuming you have to reapply as a new claimants?
Sorry for the 40 questions which probably make no sense and you probably don't have a crystal ball for half of them but just thought I'd ask anyway in hope.
Thank you.
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2 days 12 hours ago #306856 by latetrain
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Hi Arthritic Annie
I have miss placed my crystal ball, although we may have more information later tonight, the back office may be working overtime tonight to get tomorrows B&W newsletter out.
From your post I have assumed you are in receipt of CB ESA and in the support group. This is an indefinite benefit paid until you are next assessed.
If you loose your PIP claim at your next review, a MR or Appeal is not classed as a new claim, we have to wait for the small print but as far as I am aware the 4 point rule will not apply to existing claimants, but this may change.
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Gary
I have miss placed my crystal ball, although we may have more information later tonight, the back office may be working overtime tonight to get tomorrows B&W newsletter out.
From your post I have assumed you are in receipt of CB ESA and in the support group. This is an indefinite benefit paid until you are next assessed.
If you loose your PIP claim at your next review, a MR or Appeal is not classed as a new claim, we have to wait for the small print but as far as I am aware the 4 point rule will not apply to existing claimants, but this may change.
If you have not already done so, sign up to B&W free newsletter which will give you all the updates.
Gary
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2 days 11 hours ago #306865 by Arthritic Annie
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Ha ha, if you find it any time soon I'd appreciate this week's lotto numbers too.... lol
Thank you for your help.
Do you know how often people are reassessed for ESA? Is there a date somewhere? Like with PIP we're your given for 2 or 3 years etc?
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Thank you for your help.
Do you know how often people are reassessed for ESA? Is there a date somewhere? Like with PIP we're your given for 2 or 3 years etc?
Thank you
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2 days 10 hours ago #306867 by latetrain
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Hi Arthritic Annie
ESA award is indefinite until you are next re-assessed, if you request a copy of the assessors report called an ESA 85, it is sometimes on there.
We have heard from claimants who have not been reviewed for over 10 years.
Gary
ESA award is indefinite until you are next re-assessed, if you request a copy of the assessors report called an ESA 85, it is sometimes on there.
We have heard from claimants who have not been reviewed for over 10 years.
Gary
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