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13 years 9 months ago #45636 by Callisto
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Hello folks
just a hypothetical question as should I be found fit at any review for IB/ESA I would in my present condition, have to appeal. However, what I was wondering is
1. If one has been in receipt of a contribution based IB for a few years and is found fit, has a partner that works(for not a huge wage),was placed on IB straight from a job...Do in theory they still qualify for contribution based JSA?
2.I see a lot about "economically inactive" as a phrase, what does this mean exactly? I am thinking it is when you do not qualify for anything and your NI stamp will not be credited either? Am I wrong?
This will help me understand some of the topics on some of the threads I have picked up on as I am still a little lost and this may well apply to me at some point as well. Just could not find an exact definition or the answer to my pondering, forgive if i have not been astute enough to have picked up on the solution in one of the threads.
This helps solve a discussion I have had with my husband recently as he has a client in this position.
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just a hypothetical question as should I be found fit at any review for IB/ESA I would in my present condition, have to appeal. However, what I was wondering is
1. If one has been in receipt of a contribution based IB for a few years and is found fit, has a partner that works(for not a huge wage),was placed on IB straight from a job...Do in theory they still qualify for contribution based JSA?
2.I see a lot about "economically inactive" as a phrase, what does this mean exactly? I am thinking it is when you do not qualify for anything and your NI stamp will not be credited either? Am I wrong?
This will help me understand some of the topics on some of the threads I have picked up on as I am still a little lost and this may well apply to me at some point as well. Just could not find an exact definition or the answer to my pondering, forgive if i have not been astute enough to have picked up on the solution in one of the threads.
This helps solve a discussion I have had with my husband recently as he has a client in this position.
Callisto x
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13 years 9 months ago #45648 by Gordon
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1. As I understand it, the Government have decided that IB claimants will be transferred to ESA(CB) on the basis that they oginally met the NI criteria. Unfortunately, I have not seen any documentation that suggests whether this would or would not be the case with regard to JSA.
Certainly this would be viewed as a completely new claim for beneift, so the legislation covering the IB to ESA transfer would no longer be relevant.
I suspect you would not know until it became necessary to find out.
2. Economically inactive is a euphemism for not being able to work, but not claiming benefits. It used to be applied to housewives in a somewhat derogatory way, but is now used for the sick and disabled who have been found fit for work, but due to illness are unable to fulfil the JSA requirement to actively seek work.
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1. As I understand it, the Government have decided that IB claimants will be transferred to ESA(CB) on the basis that they oginally met the NI criteria. Unfortunately, I have not seen any documentation that suggests whether this would or would not be the case with regard to JSA.
Certainly this would be viewed as a completely new claim for beneift, so the legislation covering the IB to ESA transfer would no longer be relevant.
I suspect you would not know until it became necessary to find out.
2. Economically inactive is a euphemism for not being able to work, but not claiming benefits. It used to be applied to housewives in a somewhat derogatory way, but is now used for the sick and disabled who have been found fit for work, but due to illness are unable to fulfil the JSA requirement to actively seek work.
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13 years 9 months ago #45655 by Callisto
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Gordon
Thanks for the prompt reply.
I guess that when the time comes people will have to see.
It is a derogatory term indeed and i have long been out of the enviroment where i would have known these things as so much is no longer relevant snd i cannot apply previous work based info.
Callisto x
Thanks for the prompt reply.
I guess that when the time comes people will have to see.
It is a derogatory term indeed and i have long been out of the enviroment where i would have known these things as so much is no longer relevant snd i cannot apply previous work based info.
Callisto x
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13 years 9 months ago #45659 by Gordon
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It is worth adding that you would be entitled to appeal a decision that found you fit when transferred from IB. I believe the ESA Assessment rate, which you would eligible for, is the same as JSA.
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It is worth adding that you would be entitled to appeal a decision that found you fit when transferred from IB. I believe the ESA Assessment rate, which you would eligible for, is the same as JSA.
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13 years 9 months ago #45688 by waltwhitman
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Does anyone know anything about NI credits? If you are placed in the WRAG but don't receive benefits because you've got more money than the government thinks you need to live on will they credit your NI or is it left to the individual?
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13 years 9 months ago #45691 by Gordon
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Yes you do receive National Insurance Credits, but I believe these are type 3 not the more normal Type 1. They count for your pension but not towards benefits.
I am afraid you can't be in the WRAG unless you are eligible to receive ESA.
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Yes you do receive National Insurance Credits, but I believe these are type 3 not the more normal Type 1. They count for your pension but not towards benefits.
I am afraid you can't be in the WRAG unless you are eligible to receive ESA.
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