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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #106894 by 25megroup
ESA50 Question 1 trap? was created by 25megroup
I see that when the ESA50 was relaunched earlier this year the questions asked on 'getting around' (Q1) have changed.

The previous question - Can you move at least 50 metres? - options - yes; no; it varies

Has been replaced with 'How far can you move .... ?' . The shortest tick box option is 50m. So there is no tick box for those who cannot safely (etc.) move as far as 50m.

Can't help but think this has all the makings of a trap, given the proposal for people who can walk as far as 50 m to be ineligible for PIP mobility / high rate mobility
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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #106900 by Gordon
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25% ME Group wrote: I see that when the ESA50 was relaunched earlier this year the questions asked on 'getting around' (Q1) have changed.

The previous question - Can you move at least 50 metres? - options - yes; no; it varies

Has been replaced with 'How far can you move .... ?' . The shortest tick box option is 50m. So there is no tick box for those who cannot safely (etc.) move as far as 50m.

Can't help but think this has all the makings of a trap, given the proposal for people who can walk as far as 50 m to be ineligible for PIP mobility / high rate mobility


It is not a trap and has nothing to do with PIP :)

In fact, in terms of distance, the Descriptor, which is what claimants are tested against, not the question on the form, has not changed since 2011.

As always, you should make the form fit to the way you want to describe your limitations, rather than having the form dictate how you describe them, so if appropriate, simply mark the tick boxes "none apply - see below" and explain in the comment box and any attached pages how far you can mobilise and why you are limited.

Gordon

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11 years 10 months ago - 11 years 10 months ago #107266 by 25megroup
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Yes Gordon, I do appreciate that the law has not changed.

However the form has. And this is what I am worried about.

I'm aware that you should make the form fit to the way you want to describe your limitations, rather than having the form dictate how you describe them, and I have already been advising people along the lines that you suggest.

I worry about others.

Just yesterday I took a call from someone about this question, who was totally convinced that it was necessary to 'tick a box'.

Why did the DWP change the wording of this question - when the law has not changed?

And change it in such a way that there is no longer a tick box to record that you cannot 'move around' as far as 50m. Is it sheer coincidence - fortuitous coincidence for the DWP - that this obfuscation happens to coincide with the introduction of a new benefit (PIP), where ability to 'move around' over a distance of 50m will preclude claimants from receipt of the related component? (as per the current Spartacus campaign.)
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11 years 10 months ago #107272 by Gordon
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25% ME Group

The form was primarily changed to accommodate the changes that were introduced in January, however, some of the re-wording is the result of lobbying by a number of disability groups to improve the "user friendliness" of the form!

Gordon

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