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3 years 6 months ago #261137 by Ragnar
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Hi Guys ive totally messed my tribunal up before it's going to even start at anytime in the coming weeks or months it was during lockdown I was away from home and couldn't get back home for 5 months i had enough of my medication as i just lifted a description for 2 months than I had do get my medication off of friends and there friends when I could get back home I called the doctor's the receptionist was like so rude etc and disrespectfull asking where i was etc i said ive been in the house due to the pandamic n' lockdown and I had 2 months of my medication and got help off my friends, when i asked for a script for my medication. I eventually got my medication after a week I told my doctor I had enough medication and I was in the house and got help from my friends so i got my medical records to send to my advisor and it's on my records ive still to send them to my advisor but am a mess and I don't know what to do I am thinking of calling my advisor and call it off. This happened year ago. Any advice thanks
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3 years 6 months ago #261144 by LL26
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Hi Ragnar,
I'm sorry that you found lockdown especially difficult.
If I understand you correctly,you were staying with friends during lockdown and because you hadn't sufficient medication with you, you used a friends.I think you then said that you had difficulties persuading the doctor to give you another prescription when back home. This is now in your GP notes, and you feel this will now prejudice your case if you send the notes in.
Firstly, you do not have to send the notes in, and if you do,then you can annotate. It is your choice whether to send in the medical evidence, but without any form of medical evidence it may be more difficult to prove your case. Rather than focus on what is written, which of course may seem more damning to you than to someone else, work out what it says about your disabilities, and how this evidences these.
Your claim for PIP shows to me that you have significant disabilities, but unfortunately you haven't explained what these are. Is the problem with the medication all to do with your disability/illness? Is your behaviour explained by your health condition?
Firstly everyone had difficulties in lock down, did you need to stay with your friends or did this situation just arise?
What was the friend's medication for, was it legal, or illicit drugs?
Maybe your anxiety was increased by lockdown, and this made your behaviour more erratic than normal? Alternatively, maybe pain was the issue?
These are examples of where you can use the comments in the GP notes to support rather than negate your claim.
Alternatively you send in the GP notes and say nothing. If asked anything you just say that it was a lockdown problem and that made you to act out of character.
I know that the tribunal deal with all manner of people. I personally have represented people who have been in prison, drug addicts and people who have done things that they are not proud to admit to doing. The tribunal listened carefully to all of these and still awarded benefits. So, try not to worry, and please do not give up on obtaining PIP.
I hope this helps.
LL26
I'm sorry that you found lockdown especially difficult.
If I understand you correctly,you were staying with friends during lockdown and because you hadn't sufficient medication with you, you used a friends.I think you then said that you had difficulties persuading the doctor to give you another prescription when back home. This is now in your GP notes, and you feel this will now prejudice your case if you send the notes in.
Firstly, you do not have to send the notes in, and if you do,then you can annotate. It is your choice whether to send in the medical evidence, but without any form of medical evidence it may be more difficult to prove your case. Rather than focus on what is written, which of course may seem more damning to you than to someone else, work out what it says about your disabilities, and how this evidences these.
Your claim for PIP shows to me that you have significant disabilities, but unfortunately you haven't explained what these are. Is the problem with the medication all to do with your disability/illness? Is your behaviour explained by your health condition?
Firstly everyone had difficulties in lock down, did you need to stay with your friends or did this situation just arise?
What was the friend's medication for, was it legal, or illicit drugs?
Maybe your anxiety was increased by lockdown, and this made your behaviour more erratic than normal? Alternatively, maybe pain was the issue?
These are examples of where you can use the comments in the GP notes to support rather than negate your claim.
Alternatively you send in the GP notes and say nothing. If asked anything you just say that it was a lockdown problem and that made you to act out of character.
I know that the tribunal deal with all manner of people. I personally have represented people who have been in prison, drug addicts and people who have done things that they are not proud to admit to doing. The tribunal listened carefully to all of these and still awarded benefits. So, try not to worry, and please do not give up on obtaining PIP.
I hope this helps.
LL26
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3 years 6 months ago #262129 by Ragnar
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Hi LL26 I apologize for the late reply I had 2 months of my own medication than i just got my medication off my friends and there friends all the medication was all legal prescription from my mates I got enough to do me till I got back home all the same brand etc. My doctor didn't believe me I was still on my medication I told them the above but am on my full medication within a week of getting back. But as i said before it's in my medical records I haven't sent them to my CAB adviser incase they drop me and not be adviser. I suffer from severe depression, Anxiety,panic attacks and find it hard to leave the house it starts with a G I can't say it or spell. I've a scarred lung and severe back problems due to swelling lumber on my spine, memory problems so any advice would be much appreciated? Am going to post my medical records so they make the last place and call my CAB adviser and just be up front I was brought up to tell the truth and if it costs me my pip at least i will be walking out of the tribunal with my principles and values intact. Is there anything in here on tribunals. Thanks guy's for all your help and support it is really much appreciated.
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3 years 6 months ago #262145 by LL26
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Hi Ragnar,
Honesty is by far the best policy! I always advise clients that they have to tell the truth, as trying to cover things up never works, and then you worry more about being discovered later. Also you potentially run the risk of perhaps gaining benefit under false pretences, which could amount to be fraud.
So you say it how it is. As I said in the previous post, the things that you are worrying about are all likely to be connected to your health condition and be evidence of this.
Please also think about the role of your adviser. It is very difficult to advise and represent someone when every day some new, and possibly very negative information arises. It becomes a nightmare for the adviser and makes the case become less and less winnable. If the Tribunal sense you are 'hiding' information then they will also tend to consider that generally you are being untruthful so they could decide that they can not believe anything thing you say.
On the other hand, if you put everything before the adviser and then tribunal, you will not need to worry about remembering what you have or haven't said, and it will make the hearing a lot less difficult.
If you haven't done so already write a statement (or ask your adviser) to explain all the health problems you have and how these affect the way you can/can't do the PIP descriptor activities. A heartfelt statement often sways even the hardest tribunal members!
Try not worry unduly. Good luck with your appeal!
LL26
Honesty is by far the best policy! I always advise clients that they have to tell the truth, as trying to cover things up never works, and then you worry more about being discovered later. Also you potentially run the risk of perhaps gaining benefit under false pretences, which could amount to be fraud.
So you say it how it is. As I said in the previous post, the things that you are worrying about are all likely to be connected to your health condition and be evidence of this.
Please also think about the role of your adviser. It is very difficult to advise and represent someone when every day some new, and possibly very negative information arises. It becomes a nightmare for the adviser and makes the case become less and less winnable. If the Tribunal sense you are 'hiding' information then they will also tend to consider that generally you are being untruthful so they could decide that they can not believe anything thing you say.
On the other hand, if you put everything before the adviser and then tribunal, you will not need to worry about remembering what you have or haven't said, and it will make the hearing a lot less difficult.
If you haven't done so already write a statement (or ask your adviser) to explain all the health problems you have and how these affect the way you can/can't do the PIP descriptor activities. A heartfelt statement often sways even the hardest tribunal members!
Try not worry unduly. Good luck with your appeal!
LL26
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3 years 6 months ago #262152 by denby
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Dear Ragnar, I think the word you are looking for, about finding it hard to leave the house, is agorophobia. [It comes from Greek, agora is open space/marketplace, phobia is fear]. So fear of going outdoors.
Hope that helps and best wishes with your claim,
Denby
Hope that helps and best wishes with your claim,
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3 years 6 months ago #262161 by Ragnar
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Hi LL26 thanks for the support, advice etc that's what I was always going to do just had a meltdown or something but i will ask my advisor to write something I think there's a name for it as I haven't a clue about the descriptors I asked for a face to face do you think that's the best way to go it could be month's away. I need to get some results off my doctor and a support letter as all my letters are 2018 etc. Thanks for your help and support much appreciated LL26
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