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2 years 5 months ago #272745 by micksville
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Got my PIP Review form a couple of moths earlier than I had been told it was due when I last called them. Have most of my submissions ready but new on this form is advice DWP give on what to and not to include. It says do not send GP supporting letters. Ay reason for this as I have always sent them in the pas?. I am struggling to obtain one this time anyway as my surgery doesn't usually do them now due to staffing issues post pandemic etc. Something I posted on here earlier this year. I have 3 or 4 such letters however that were for anticipated ESA reviews in 2017 2019 and 2021 which never happened due to back log. These are letters that give mention to ongoing issues and fresh medical issues since my initial PIP award in 2016 so I am sending them anyway, along with x rays and physio reports done since 2016 to give context and show my issues then still affect me now as well as new issues.
Additionally it specifically says do not send us anything you have previously sent us? I assume from this the case manager will have all my medical evidence etc o file from last time in 2016?
Problem is I have mislaid my records of exactly what I sent so is it going to really hack them off to send them some of the more pertinent though historic medical evidence which shows I had several operations and consultant involvement etc also that various morbidities and risk factors dictate that surgery, much needed is not an option for me. Can I assume they will still have most of this on file and will actually look at it or is it advisable to send it anyway despite what they say?
Additionally it specifically says do not send us anything you have previously sent us? I assume from this the case manager will have all my medical evidence etc o file from last time in 2016?
Problem is I have mislaid my records of exactly what I sent so is it going to really hack them off to send them some of the more pertinent though historic medical evidence which shows I had several operations and consultant involvement etc also that various morbidities and risk factors dictate that surgery, much needed is not an option for me. Can I assume they will still have most of this on file and will actually look at it or is it advisable to send it anyway despite what they say?
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2 years 5 months ago #272793 by Gary
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Hi micksville
I would ignore what they say in their letter, did you keep a copy of your previous claim, if you did then use it as a template, if your condition has deteriorate then explain what has got worse and what effects it has on you and what help you require, the why part is always important.
Remember to treat the PIP review form as if it was a new claims form, It is perfectly OK for you to type your answers and attach them as extra pages to the form, just make sure that each page has your full name and NIN at the top and that they are numbered, we recommend "page X of Y" so that it is easy to see if pages are missing. Make sure you clearly mark on the form where your answers are and on the relevant page that you are answering question X.
I would not split your answers across the form and attached pages, do one or the other for each activity (not question), splitting it risks the second part of your answer not being read.
Attach the pages to the back of the form using a staple or make a hole in the top left corner and use a treasury tag, string or ribbon to the form. The pages need to be easily detached so that they can be scanned by the DWP.
If you have no recent supporting documents then use the most recent supporting document you have for each condition, don't expect DWP to look at your previous claim as they have a massive backlog.
Good luck, let us know how you get on.
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I would ignore what they say in their letter, did you keep a copy of your previous claim, if you did then use it as a template, if your condition has deteriorate then explain what has got worse and what effects it has on you and what help you require, the why part is always important.
Remember to treat the PIP review form as if it was a new claims form, It is perfectly OK for you to type your answers and attach them as extra pages to the form, just make sure that each page has your full name and NIN at the top and that they are numbered, we recommend "page X of Y" so that it is easy to see if pages are missing. Make sure you clearly mark on the form where your answers are and on the relevant page that you are answering question X.
I would not split your answers across the form and attached pages, do one or the other for each activity (not question), splitting it risks the second part of your answer not being read.
Attach the pages to the back of the form using a staple or make a hole in the top left corner and use a treasury tag, string or ribbon to the form. The pages need to be easily detached so that they can be scanned by the DWP.
If you have no recent supporting documents then use the most recent supporting document you have for each condition, don't expect DWP to look at your previous claim as they have a massive backlog.
Good luck, let us know how you get on.
Gary
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2 years 5 months ago #272802 by denby
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Hi micksville, not only have I just done a relative's renewal exactly as per Gary's advice [it was oh so much less effort as I used dictation software to "type" a page for each question, repeating the question and giving the full answers tweaked from the previous form as fully as if for a new claim] - but I again copied clinic letters one as far back as 2018 and the rest 2019, all showing how relative was discharged from clinics because they had no more treatments to offer.
I did not have the time or energy to compile a new diary, but wrote as the first part of the answer for each Q. how with conditions being inherited and incurable, their effects on her DL & Mob have not changed.
I just hope it convinces them of this sad truth.
Text acknowledging receipt and ongoing payment received so we can breathe meantime...
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I did not have the time or energy to compile a new diary, but wrote as the first part of the answer for each Q. how with conditions being inherited and incurable, their effects on her DL & Mob have not changed.
I just hope it convinces them of this sad truth.
Text acknowledging receipt and ongoing payment received so we can breathe meantime...
Denby
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2 years 5 months ago #272810 by SUE C C
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Hello micksville
I would take it as a given that despite you having submitted all your medical evidence previously, the case manager is unlikely to take the trouble of looking at it. Also, although the evidence of 6 years ago may be deemed as historic, it is still a good indicator of how your health issues affected you then and gives a more complete picture and timeline of your current health for the case manager.
With reference to the difficulties you are experiencing with obtaining a supporting letter from your GP, may I ask if your medical practice has Patient 'Online Access'?
My GP practice uses a system called SystemOnline, which allows me to reorder repeat prescriptions, book appointments (Pre-pandemic) access prescribing history, patient records and summary patient record. you are entitled to access your own medical records held by your GP/Medical Practice at no extra cost, subject to the requirements of your practice to do so.
Going forward, It is a very useful source of corroborating information and supporting documentation that claimants are/have been in contact with their GP/nurse/health practitioner about their ongoing health issues etc. Also, it is possible to provide a history of medications that may have been prescribed as well as any referrals made to other specialists.
If you choose to access your medical information in this way, a word of caution, CHECK THOROUGHLY FOR ACCURACY and remove any irrelevant or inaccurate information before using it. Good luck.
I would take it as a given that despite you having submitted all your medical evidence previously, the case manager is unlikely to take the trouble of looking at it. Also, although the evidence of 6 years ago may be deemed as historic, it is still a good indicator of how your health issues affected you then and gives a more complete picture and timeline of your current health for the case manager.
With reference to the difficulties you are experiencing with obtaining a supporting letter from your GP, may I ask if your medical practice has Patient 'Online Access'?
My GP practice uses a system called SystemOnline, which allows me to reorder repeat prescriptions, book appointments (Pre-pandemic) access prescribing history, patient records and summary patient record. you are entitled to access your own medical records held by your GP/Medical Practice at no extra cost, subject to the requirements of your practice to do so.
Going forward, It is a very useful source of corroborating information and supporting documentation that claimants are/have been in contact with their GP/nurse/health practitioner about their ongoing health issues etc. Also, it is possible to provide a history of medications that may have been prescribed as well as any referrals made to other specialists.
If you choose to access your medical information in this way, a word of caution, CHECK THOROUGHLY FOR ACCURACY and remove any irrelevant or inaccurate information before using it. Good luck.
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2 years 5 months ago #272814 by micksville
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Yes I use patient access but the summary record is poorly compiled and gives a less than useless picture of my main disabilities However, I did get an updated supporting letter from GP today so all systems go
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2 years 5 months ago #272815 by micksville
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I've done pretty much what you say already Gary but I did get a new supporting letter today from GP so all systems go as they say Fingers crossed
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