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wrong assessments on WCA

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13 years 7 months ago #58264 by Dseven
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I am preparing to write my letter for appeal of the ESA WCA test that failed me with 0 points. There are 8 places that they have failed me with 0 points where the aassessment they give is totaly wrong. For e.g. "Staying conscious when awake" they say "any fits blackouts or loss of consciousness happen less than once a month." How can they say that when I told them that I often have a hypo at least every other day (because I am a type 1 insulin dependent diabetic) which results in a drastic change in consciousness nearly passing out! How can they say things like this, is it because I deal with these hypo attacks by myself.

Darren

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13 years 7 months ago #58266 by Gordon
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Darren

Forgive me in advance as I have no direct experience of diabetes so this question maybe naive.

Is it possible that they are arguing that with regular testing and the appropriate use of insulin injections these attacks should be manageable?

In addition, the ESA Handbook, which guides the ATOS HCPs through an ESA medical refers to "significant hypoglycaemia where the person requires the intervention of another person to manage the episode".

So the fact that you are managing these episodes on your own, may, as you suspected, be the reason you scored no points.

Gordon

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13 years 7 months ago #58270 by Dseven
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High Gordon, thats alright, many people do not understand the complexities of type 1 diabetes. The atos people could be arguing the point you put forward, but it is not as simple as that with Type 1 diabetes. Every action I do every day has an effect upon the control. For e.g. if I miss a meal by as little as 15 minuets that can cause a hypo, and if I do some type of activity that uses energy, this too can lower blood sugar levels and bring on a hypo. Also it takes me a while to recover from depending on how bad the hypo is. And if I over compensate with too much food this too has another effect bringing my sugar levels up too high, and that makes me feel awful too.

I din't know about the esa handbook's mention of a hypo. the thing is whether I deal with it myself or someone else does the effects of the hypo still involve a dratic change in consciousness.

Darren

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13 years 7 months ago #58272 by Gordon
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Darren

The ESA handbook is a Word document in the ESA section of the Members area, you want section 3.3.11 which starts on page 86.

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13 years 7 months ago #58275 by Dseven
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Thankyou Gordon.

What about in the "using your hands" it gives me no points for this, although sometimes I can pick things up like a card board box and such, but then on other days I can't because I have arthritus in my hands and fingers, and this does vary on how bad it is from day to day. For e.g. I see it says in the MNP test manuel dexterity, it awards 15 points for not being able to pick up a £1 coin. Now on some days I can do this, but on other days I can't.

Darren

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13 years 7 months ago #58277 by originaldave
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Dseven wrote:

High Gordon, thats alright, many people do not understand the complexities of type 1 diabetes. The atos people could be arguing the point you put forward, but it is not as simple as that with Type 1 diabetes. Every action I do every day has an effect upon the control. For e.g. if I miss a meal by as little as 15 minuets that can cause a hypo, and if I do some type of activity that uses energy, this too can lower blood sugar levels and bring on a hypo. Also it takes me a while to recover from depending on how bad the hypo is. And if I over compensate with too much food this too has another effect bringing my sugar levels up too high, and that makes me feel awful too.

I din't know about the esa handbook's mention of a hypo. the thing is whether I deal with it myself or someone else does the effects of the hypo still involve a dratic change in consciousness.

Darren


I think your going to need a lot of consultants reports to back up your postion ... so many peopl with your problem lead normal "ish" lives with few problems ... they will put down your problems IMO to bad managment and control of the illness ... have you got some other hralth problem that conflicts with this problem ?

back when esa was coming in I think diabetic uk told in there advise on the new benefit told the dwp that people with type 1 should ......

look for work with
Fixed working hours

Regular physical exercise rather than desk work :)

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