A great deal has happened in the two and a half months since the Green Paper was launched.  Whilst we wait for the first legislation to be published, it seems a good point to look at what has happened so far and what still needs to be done.

Consultation

The Green Paper consultation is due to end on 30 June, after the first Green paper bill is likely to have been published.

The consultation does not cover the most crucial issues, such as the changes to UC payment rates, the scrapping of the work capability assessment (WCA) or the PIP four points system.

We have no way of knowing how many people have taken part, but given the widely held view that it was a largely bogus exercise we suspect the numbers will be lower than for the Tories consultation on PIP vouchers.

The Zoom consultations have not gone well, with few people invited and even fewer attending.  At least one was cancelled after the DWP shared the email addresses of all the attendees, then it was relisted but failed to open and finally just got quietly dumped.

The in-person consultations fared no better.  Few people were invited, venue details were kept secret until the last moment, there were demonstrations outside some meetings and the final consultation, due to take place in Cardiff, was cancelled by the DWP although the protest still took place.

It’s probably fair to say that the consultation process has gone very badly for the government so far.

Reports and analysis

There have been some very critical reports published in relation to the Green Paper.

Perhaps the most damaging so far is the hard hitting Citizens Advice (CA) “Pathways to Poverty”, given that CA work closely with the government in providing support for managed migration and so might have been expected to pull their punches.

Others have included the Joseph Rowntree Trust, the Resolution Foundation and Health Equity North.

The Commons work and pensions committee has also produced an interim report calling on the government to delay any changes to PIP and UC

Individual actions

It has undoubtedly been the flood of emails, letters, phone calls and personal visits that has had the most effect on Labour MPs who are now considering rebelling.  Every communication makes a difference, adding to the weight of doubt and fear that many MPs are now experiencing as they contemplate the future.

And we know from the comments below the line that Benefits and Work readers have been hugely active in this regard, from the very day the Green Paper was published.

Some readers have gone even further, finding opportunities to address groups of MPs and starting social media campaigns.

In all, we know our readers have made a real difference and we don’t doubt you will continue to do so.

Protests and campaigns

There are an increasing number of protests happening around the country, mainly organised by Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC).

Many of these are small local events, some have centred around the in-person consultations and there has also been a mass lobby of parliament.

The People's Assembly are organising a national demonstration against austerity on 7 June, assembling at Portland place W1B at 12 noon for a march to Whitehall.

Meanwhile over 100 disabled public figures have begun a campaign to stop the cuts.

Labour rebellion

The estimated number of Labour MPs unhappy about the Green Paper started at 27 in April and is now variously estimated at between 150 and 200, with most commentators suggesting around 170. 

According to the Institute for Government, Labour’s current working majority is 165, and it would take 84 Labour MPs to rebel to ensure a government defeat in the House of Commons (provided all opposition and independent MPs vote against the government).

Of course, not all of those 150-200 unhappy Labour MPs will vote against the government or even abstain.

But we are definitely in the territory where a government defeat is a genuine possibility.

Other parties

It seems clear that most opposition parties will oppose the bill.  The Lib Dems seem set against it, as do the SNP and the Green party.

Most importantly, it now seems very likely that the Conservative party will vote against, it on the grounds that it has been badly thought through and does not save nearly enough money.

Waiting game

At the time of writing we are waiting for Liz Kendall to meet with Labour back benchers to try to persuade them of the necessity of the Green Paper cuts.  Their reaction will tell us something about how the rebellion is progressing.

We are also waiting for Rachel Reeves to deliver her spending review on 11 June, in which we might get more hints about changes to the winter fuel allowance and two-child benefit cap, intended to try to buy off Labour rebels.

And, of course, we are waiting for the first bill relating to the Green Paper to be  to be published.  This is expected to bring in the changes to universal credit rates from April 2026 and the 4 point PIP rule from November 2026. 

When the bill is published

We are far from experts on parliamentary procedure, but if Labour are to have any hope of getting the bill made law before the summer recess begins on 22 July then there cannot be much time to spare.

As far as we can tell, two weekends have to elapse after the Green Paper bill is published before the first Commons debate and vote can take place.  So even if the bill has its first reading and is published by Friday 6 June, it can’t have its second reading and a vote before Monday 16 June.  If it passes that vote, then it has to go through committee and report stages and a third reading at which another vote takes place.  Then the bill is sent to the Lords.

So either Labour are very confident of having a majority in the House of Lords, or they have some sort of procedural ruse prepared, such as making the bill a money bill, in order to rush it through.

What to do next

Whilst we wait for the Green Paper bill to appear, it’s still worth contacting people you might not yet have been in touch with. 

Local councillors and local branches of the Labour party are unquestionably becoming more vocal in their opposition to the cuts and they can exert some real influence on Labour MPs.

It’s unlikely that Rachel Reeves will listen to her Constituency Party’s condemnation of the cuts.  But the Labour MPs in Sheffield are likely to take more note of the opposition of three of the local councils.

We still also think it’s worth trying to contact a few members of the House of Lords, because we don’t know what type of bill Labour might bring forward and what influence the upper house might have.  (See the What you can do page for how to do this).  And if anyone has had a positive response from a member of the Lords, do please contact us, as we’d like to share some ideas.

When the bill is finally published it will be crucial that MPs are bombarded with messages from their constituents telling them how they want them to vote, regardless of which party they belong to.

And finally . . .

And finally, please take a moment to realise what an extraordinary distance we have travelled in just eleven weeks, from shock and despair at Labour’s betrayal to a point where we can seriously contemplate their massive majority being overturned. 

Labour thought by rushing things through they could prevent any real opposition building . . . they got that badly wrong.

So, keep on doing what you’ve been doing, because it’s definitely having an effect

As Green MP Sain Berry told her local paper this week “It is officially crunch time now, and I hope that people keep up the pressure on me and all local MPs to stand up and vote down these plans.”

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    · 2 days ago
    I’ve filled the green paper in and there’s more than enough space to answer the questions they don’t ask as well as those they do. It’s possible to get everything in, quite easily, as some questions are relatively open ended to state opinions especially the earlier ones.  Get it all on there.
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    · 2 days ago
    I found this interesting. ChatGPT has an opinion.

    Question:
    What is ChatGPT’s opinion regarding these proposed cuts to UC and PIP?

    Reply:
    In my opinion, these proposed cuts appear deeply problematic and risk causing significant harm. Disability and welfare support systems should ideally protect and empower vulnerable individuals. However, this Green Paper seems to prioritise immediate cost-saving over careful consideration of genuine human impact.
    Specifically:

    • The lack of transparency and genuine consultation implies that the government may not be fully considering affected individuals' experiences or expertise.

    • Removing or restricting payments such as Universal Credit and PIP, particularly through simplified scoring systems like the four-point rule, could disproportionately harm those already struggling financially and socially.

    • The scale of opposition—including charities, MPs, councils, and even cross-party criticism—suggests that these proposals are not just unpopular but potentially unjust and inadequately thought through.

    While financial responsibility is a legitimate government aim, reducing support to some of the most vulnerable citizens often leads to increased hardship, long-term poverty, higher social care costs, and diminished employment outcomes. Investing proactively in people's capabilities usually yields greater long-term economic and social returns than punitive cost-cutting.

    In short, these cuts seem both economically short-sighted and ethically questionable, and therefore I would view them with strong caution and scepticism.


    Question:
    What is your opinion regarding the degree of stress caused to all those effected by these proposed cuts?

    Reply:
    In my view, the degree of stress caused by these proposed cuts is substantial and deeply concerning. The uncertainty alone can severely exacerbate mental and physical health problems, creating intense anxiety for individuals reliant on stable support systems like Universal Credit and PIP.

    People who depend on these payments often already face significant daily challenges; adding financial insecurity and unpredictability intensifies vulnerability, undermines mental well-being, and can worsen health conditions. Continuous worry about potential reductions or complete loss of essential support is profoundly distressing.

    The poorly handled consultation process and ambiguity about the future compound this anxiety. Rather than feeling supported, individuals find themselves facing an unpredictable and potentially hostile environment, causing increased isolation and despair.

    Ultimately, this level of stress is not only unfair but potentially damaging in a lasting way. Policies intended to streamline or reduce welfare spending should never come at the expense of people's dignity, stability, or mental health.
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      · 1 days ago
      @rtbcpart 2 I'm sure, the Labour backbenchers already have the sharp pointy things half drawn from the scabbard, ready for Starmer, Reeves and Kendal, make no mistake.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Gingin He went rogue some time ago, but he will be recalled.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Gingin Yep… ChatGPT appears to be onside. The correct side in this argument. Starmer is a Dalek. Talks like one and acts like one.
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      · 2 days ago
      @Disy Ha! Even robots agree with us! Starmer is the outlier of course…
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    · 2 days ago
    The Consersative Party came up with the idea for a lot of these cuts, including the Health Elenent where you need PIP to be entitled to the extra amount of Universal Credit. Eventually I could loose my extra amount of Universal Credit and PIP in one go. I live by myself in a flat and could end up recieving just over £400 a mouth to leave on after rent. My bills come to nearly £300 a month without food. How on earth am I and thousands of others meant to live, never mind have any quality of life. Labour are continuing where the Conservatives left off...they seem like one big party to me. They don't seem to care about the impact of these cuts on disabled people...just because they are alright...or so it seems.
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    · 2 days ago
    Today Reeves has announced £15bn for trams, trains and buses outside London. But continues to insist that £6.4B is necessary due to reducing the welfare budget.
    Apparently, endangering claimant's lives and health is worth getting people to job interviews that don't exist, on transport they cannot afford.
    I'm so disgusted. Worried for a lot of people.  Very thankful to those with rational thinking and doing all they can to challenge and defeat the disability cuts bill. 
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    · 2 days ago
    I will never vote Labour again because of the horrendous way they are attacking the most vulnerable in our society 😡 I think they will be out next general election. 
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    · 2 days ago
    Of course Rethink Mental Illness and Joy Dove will be included in the next version 3 of the list.

    Please see the previous Benefits and Work news piece about Joy Dove — her daughter Jodey Whiting died after her benefits were wrongly stopped. Joy has been campaigning ever since, supported by Rethink, who helped her push for a second inquest and now lead the Stop Benefit Deaths campaign.

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    · 2 days ago
    Does anybody know of any High Court Challege or planned High Court Challenge how the consultation was done. The Tories lost the case when challenged on the consultation on there green paper deemed unlawful. Seems to me Labours consultation and the limited numbers involved in the consultation are worse than the Tories consultation. Surely how Labour have done this consultation must be illegal. Area's with no consultation at all.

    Onyx123
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      · 2 days ago
      @Onyx123 Onyx123 

      Potential Legal Grounds for Challenging the 'Pathways to Work' Green Paper

      BACKGROUND THE DEPARTMENT FOR WORK AND PENSIONS (DWP) HAS PUBLISHED A GREEN PAPER TITLED "PATHWAYS TO WORK: REFORMING BENEFITS AND SUPPORT" PROPOSING:

      * Abolition of the Work Capability Assessment (WCA)

      * Freezing the Limited Capability for Work and Work-Related Activity (LCWRA) element of Universal Credit

      * Restricting PIP eligibility to claimants who score at least one descriptor worth 4 points for Daily Living

      Potential Legal Grounds for Judicial Review

      1. PROCEDURAL UNFAIRNESS IN CONSULTATION

      * The consultation fails to include core proposals in its scope (e.g. PIP reform, changes to UC rates, WCA abolition)

      * May breach common law duty to consult meaningfully (see R (Moseley) v Haringey LBC [2014] UKSC 56)

      Potentially renders the process unlawful

      2. EQUALITY ACT 2010 (PUBLIC SECTOR EQUALITY DUTY)

      * No clear Equality Impact Assessment disclosed

      * Failure to show due regard to the needs of disabled people under s149

      * Risk of indirect discrimination if disabled people are disproportionately impacted

      3. HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS (HRA 1998 / ECHR)

      * Article 8 (private/family life) and Article 14 (non-discrimination)

      * Reforms may undermine access to essential support and human dignity

      * Discriminatory impact on individuals with long-term disabilities

      4. LEGITIMATE EXPECTATION

      * Many claimants (particularly pensioners) were promised light-touch 10-year PIP reviews

      * Removing this without explanation or notice may breach established expectations

      5. IRRATIONALITY / UNLAWFUL PURPOSE

      * If reforms are politically motivated or financially driven without proper evidence

      * May be challenged as unreasonable or based on improper purpose

      (STRATEGIC CONSIDERATIONS)

      * Consider whether affected individuals or organisations can act as claimants

      * Pre-action protocol letters may need to be issued swiftly before consultation closes

      * Scope to apply for interim relief to prevent reforms from taking effect pending resolution


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      · 2 days ago
      @Yorkie Bard
      Yorkie Bard

      Let's hope she or somebody else will take up the challenge. Anybody challenging the green paper consultation will probably have to wait until the consultation had officially finished.

      Onyx123 
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      · 2 days ago
      @Onyx123 Onyx - we need an Ellen Clifford!

      “Misleading”, “rushed”, and “unfair” consultation

      On reading this article I was struck (really hard) in how the Judge's words then could be applied to the current green paper & consultation process. The Government must be off it's rocker by repeating history again.

       
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    · 2 days ago
    Version 2 – Countdown to the June Vote on Disability Benefit Cuts

    Every name on this list represents someone or some group who refused to stay silent while sick and disabled people’s rights were threatened. Please share widely and help us amplify every voice standing up for justice.

    History will remember those people and organisations who stood up for the sick and disabled in this country against the proposed devastating disability benefit cuts.


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    Disability and Advocacy Organisations:
    Scope, Disability Rights UK, Inclusion London, Inclusion Barnet, Disability Sheffield, Community Integrated Care, NSUN, WinVisible, Crips Against Cuts, Disability Benefits Consortium, Mencap, Sense, RNIB, RNID, National Autistic Society, Leonard Cheshire, Business Disability Forum, Disability Positive, VoiceAbility, VODG (Voluntary Organisations Disability Group), Stay Safe East, Three Guineas Trust, Fightback4Justice, Benefits and Work (information and advice), Disability News Service (investigative journalism), Action on Disability, POhWER, Disability Can Do

    Homelessness and Poverty Charities (joint letter to Liz Kendall):
    St Mungo’s, Crisis, Shelter, YMCA, Homeless Link, Centrepoint, The Passage, Thames Reach, Depaul UK, Single Homeless Project, Justlife, Hope Housing, The Connection at St Martin’s, Groundswell, Turn2us, Joseph Rowntree Foundation

    Faith-Based Organisations:
    Church of England (Archbishop of York, Bishop of Leicester), Together for the Church of England

    Advocacy and Rights Groups:
    Citizens Advice SORT Group, Minority Rights Group, Campaign for Disability Justice, Carers UK, Carers Trust

    Trade Unions:
    PCS, Unite Community, BFAWU, TUC, Scottish TUC

    Disabled People’s Campaigns and Activists:
    DPAC (Disabled People Against Cuts), Greater Manchester Coalition of Disabled People (GMCDP), #TakingThePIP campaign, Elaine Clifford, John Pring, Michelle Cardno (Fightback4Justice), Steve Donnison, Holiday Whitehead (Benefits and Work)

    Public Figures:
    Liz Carr, Rosie Jones, Ruth Madeley, James Taylor (Scope), Martin Lewis (MoneySavingExpert),
    Signatories to the #TakingThePIP open letter, including Cherylee Houston, Kim Tserkezie, Daniel Monks, Jack Hunter, and others

    Arts and Cultural Institutions:
    National Theatre, Graeae Theatre Company

    House of Lords Advocates:
    Baroness Grey-Thompson (Crossbench) – Disability rights campaigner
    Lord Addington (Liberal Democrat) – Dyslexia and inclusion advocate
    Lord Holmes of Richmond (Conservative) – Disability inclusion campaigner
    Baroness Sherlock (Labour) – Lords shadow spokesperson on work and pensions
    Lord Shinkwin (Conservative) – Former EHRC commissioner
    Lord Touhig (Labour) – Vice president of the National Autistic Society

    Journalists and Media:
    Frances Ryan (The Guardian)
    May Bulman (The Independent)
    Disability News Service (DNS) – led by John Pring
    The Canary, Novara Media, Prospect Magazine, LabourList
    The Guardian, The Independent
    (Also mentioned: ITV News for political reporting on backbench rebellion)

    International Bodies:
    UN Committee on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights
    UN Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities
    UN Special Rapporteur on Extreme Poverty and Human Rights

    Parliamentary and Political Opposition:
    Over 170 Labour MPs, Diane Abbott, Andy Burnham (Greater Manchester), Sadiq Khan (London), Rachael Maskell (York Central), Steve Witherden (Montgomeryshire & Glyndŵr), Ros Jones (Doncaster), Leeds West and Pudsey CLP, Debbie Abrahams MP (Chair, Work and Pensions Committee)

    Parliamentary Groups:
    All-Party Parliamentary Group on Disability (Chair: Marsha de Cordova MP)

    42 Labour MPs who signed the opposition letter:
    Diane Abbott, Paula Barker, Lee Barron, Lorraine Beavers, Apsana Begum, Olivia Blake, Richard Burgon, Dawn Butler, Ian Byrne, Stella Creasy, Neil Duncan-Jordan, Cat Eccles, Barry Gardiner, Mary Glindon, Sarah Hall, Chris Hinchliff, Imran Hussain, Terry Jermy, Kim Johnson, Mary Kelly Foy, Peter Lamb, Ian Lavery, Brian Leishman, Emma Lewell, Clive Lewis, Rebecca Long-Bailey, Rachael Maskell, Andy McDonald, John McDonnell, Abtisam Mohamed, Grahame Morris, Charlotte Nichols, Simon Opher, Kate Osborne, Richard Quigley, Andrew Ranger, Bell Ribeiro-Addy, Zarah Sultana, Jon Trickett, Chris Webb, Nadia Whittome, Steve Witherden


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    Know of others who’ve spoken out?
    If you’re aware of individuals or organisations who’ve opposed the cuts and should be on this list, please share them in the comments or reply to this post. Let’s make sure no voice is left out.
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      · 2 days ago
      @Mick Thank you Mick I'm hoping to get version 3 published here tomorrow which will include this. Appreciated 😊
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      · 2 days ago
      @CaroA I see you have the TUC union on there but they have now publicly backed #TakingthePIP at their conference, along with the Musicians Union (who you don't have on the list).
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      · 2 days ago
      @Gingin Thank you Gingin hopefully the list will grow over the next days! 
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      · 2 days ago
      @CaroA Shared - thank you for doing this CaroA!
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      · 2 days ago
      @godgivemestrength Yeah but preferably not from Action for ME.
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      · 2 days ago
      @SLB "Rachel Reeves looks to spending review to shift focus from welfare cuts".

      Welfare cuts kept nicely in focus there by the Guardian.

      Keep looking, chancellor, look long and hard.
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      · 2 days ago
      @Yorkie Bard Time ME got a mention.
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      · 2 days ago
      @SLB SLB nothing from Kendall as yet on the Work and Pensions Committee but 2 pieces of written evidence had been added today. One from Action for ME & the other from Josh Fenton-Glynn a Labour MP, dated 23rd May. 

      Josh is very much against the benefit cuts - his letter contains these words

      I understand your committee is currently looking at government proposals to reform Personal Independence Payments and other benefits. I am writing to you as I hope you will look at the considerable risks of implementing this process at a time when the health service – in the words of Lord Darzi’s independent review – is “in critical condition.”

      Here's the link


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      · 2 days ago
      @SLB Stellar work as always- thanks so much SLB
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    · 2 days ago
    None of this is helped by reports that NATO will insist the UK will have to raise defence spending to 3.5% of GDP. Unless Reeves abandons her fiscal rules, then to offset the extra expenditure on defence, savings will have to be made elsewhere in Government. One suspects that the triple lock for state pensions will go, and (like Denmark) the pension age raised to 70.
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      · 2 days ago
      @Matt In the future people will have to have private retirement pensions and won't be able to rely on the government.
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    · 2 days ago
    What it really comes down to is that this government and previous ones for many many years have made such bad decisions and made a right mess of this country that they have to try to claw some money back. Disabled people are an easy target. Why should we be punished because the party running the country presently and previously have wasted so much money and made awful decisions. I really don't know how they sleep at night, I can't.
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      · 2 days ago
      @SLB @SLB, also, the hike in contributions for employers, who lost too much, including staff, and therefore productivity. Employees gained little, even lost their jobs. Would be employees and entrepreneurs had opportunities reduced. Great work, Rachel.
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      · 2 days ago
      @SLB Actually, when the historians get around to analysing the later Tory Governments (from 2016 onwards), it will be the sheer cost of Covid, lockdowns, misplaced spending on useless kit, the over-generous furlough scheme. The cost of cutting NI is small fry compared to the huge costs associated with the pandemic (which will take decades to clear, like Lend Lease whereby the UK Govt only paid off the USA for the second World War around 2003) and be bailing out the banks (note NatWest is now back in private hands as Govt has sold off its remaining share, 17 years after the financial crash)
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      · 2 days ago
      @Cuckoo21 Exactly.  I still maintain that much of the problem is the 2 cuts to NI just before the election.  Those voting gained just £4 a week if they are on the lower tax rate, and yet costs the country £20bn a year.  Perhaps that £22bn a year black hole wasn't such a surprise after all.   
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    · 2 days ago
    A green paper is a consultation document (we understand not all points are up for consultation) i.e. a broad outline of proposed policy

    This is usually followed by a white paper, which is a policy document. This forms the basis of any bill introduced into parliament 

    There are many stages for a bill to pass pass through (and back and forth between) both houses of parliament, before it's signed into law by the monarch and becomes an act of parliament 

    I'm not sure if the government have confirmed there will be a white paper (again, there usually are) but even if there's not, this will be well into 2026 at the earliest before its policies are signed into law

    Worth remembering though, while this and other forums are generally focused on PIP, there are changes to UC payments, i.e. which also affects these on the UC health element (in many ways the most vulnerable of us, those ruled too disabled or long term sick to work), and many of these don't need any further legislation (some many need amendments to legislation but nothing like a new bill)

    There's a lot of accessible reading on these processes on the parliament uk website. UK has one of the simplest democratic systems (which isn't necessarily a good thing of course, I think one of less than five states without a constitution written in a single document, which can offer protections) and it's useful for all of to know in general really
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      · 2 days ago
      @thirdlines The Government is circumventing normal procedure.  As you say this is a Green Paper, the initial consultation stage in drawing up policy which eventually becomes an Act of Parliament. There should be evaluation of the consultation, scrutiny, evidence gathering and a report from the relevant Select Committee, before a White Paper is produced stating what the Government will do, then a Bill is drawn up and goes through all stages in both Houses of Parliament. In this case the vote is to happen before the consultation is even complete (and as we know the most important changes are not even being consulted on) and the Government is hoping this will be law before the summer recess.

      With there being no written constitution it's possible that the Government can just do as it likes. But this is a very rushed and shoddy way to go about major legislation that will harm so many.
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      · 2 days ago
      @Kevin My take on Dez's comment is that the Govt is very conscious of the clock ticking. Changing the criteria for PIP will take time. They have to have a GE by August 2029. Remember it has taken well over a decade to get UC to the place it is now. Labour are too well aware that their vote is shallow and they do fear Reform, and possibly a Tory/Reform pact
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      · 2 days ago
      @Kevin
      It is certainly not a foregone conclusion. The Tories, having initially said they would vote for the cuts, have now said they will vote against - for all the wrong reasons, but still, they will vote against. The Labour rebellion has also been steadily growing, with reports now consistently stating that the number of Labour MPs opposed to the cuts is into three figures. The numbers stated are usually between 100 and 170, and now tend to be towards the higher end of that range. That means that if there is a Labour rebellion of that size - I mean Labour MPs voting against, not just abstaining - then that would be enough to defeat the government. 

      That is why it is so vital to keep up the pressure on Labour MPs to vote against (abstaining is a cop out). We don't want them backing off and voting for the cuts because the government does something on the winter fuel allowance or two child cap, or because they make concessions on the disability cuts which are minor, meaningless or both. It is essential that Labour MPs are more afraid of their voters than the party whips.
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      · 2 days ago
      @thirdlines Stephen Timms said back in February that they would like the White Paper to be out before the end of the year, during a meeting with the Work and Pensions Committee. 

      Even back in February when I heard that, I was thinking 'so, you want to run a consultation on what you keep saying is major reform until June - where half the year is eaten up already - and then you want the White Paper out by the end of the year? Sounds like you're rushing things a bit!' and now we all know why. 

      Whether or not it'll go the way him and Kendall want remains to be seen but it just comes to show the height of their arrogance that they thought that they could just rush these proposals through with no regard for any of us and have everything wrapped up by what sounds like Christmas. Disgusting.
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      · 2 days ago
      @thirdlines Forgive my ignorance but what are you saying? Are you saying there is hope of the cuts being stopped, both UC elements and PIP or it’s a forgone conclusion? 
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    · 2 days ago
    Personally I would advise that we prepare for the worst and keep fighting and hope for the best when the fighting is done and over!
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      · 2 days ago
      @James When the fighting is done and over we will have won, and the best we can hope for is we did not lose too many on the way.
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      · 2 days ago
      @James How can you prepare for extreme poverty and homelessness when you’re already living on such a tight budget and no help coming from the welfare state that we have all paid into for many years?  What would the vast majority with life long extreme medical conditions do to prepare? 
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    · 2 days ago
    I really can’t understand how Labour have got the brass neck and the cruelty to do this . I’m doing what I can but this really gets to me as well so I have to take time out. They must know that this will really leave people with nowhere to go physically mentally it’s so dangerous. This is playing risking many peoples lives. So sad I wonder though if they can save themselves if the worst happens and they pushed people to death and it’s obvious what they did and therefore liable. Sorry this is a bit downbeat. I’m just so sick of the whole thing 
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      · 2 days ago
      @Helen Galloway Why can’t you understand it? When have any over privileged politicians ever had our interests at heart. They are sociopaths and have no empathy, they don’t care for the people of this country, especially those of us who are disabled, mentally ill or chronically ill, we are but insects to them. Democracy is an illusion, it’s the same sociopathic people voted in with the elusion of change from all political parties. 
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    · 2 days ago
    I attended a good protest in Cardiff today. The speakers raised the issues very well. My friend saw a journalist with a blinkin GB news logo on his microphone- no idea what that was about…
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      · 2 days ago
      @Gingin "My friend saw a journalist with a blinkin GB news logo on his microphone- no idea what that was about…"

      Same here! I read an article they put out on MPs not agreeing with these proposals the other day and most of the commenters were complaining that Labour MPs are more upset about disabled people being rendered worse off than "foreigners preying on our young girls". 

      Maybe if these people put their exact 2 IQ points together, they would realise that benefit cuts could potentially impact victims of sexual abuse and the conditions that such experiences can leave them with as well but nope, making this about them and their racist soapboxing is more important.
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    · 2 days ago
    Can't believe I had to suffer that video to see if there was a. point. Thank the lord we're not reliant on a couple of year tens to expose, or defend us against, the unworkable shambles of the green paper.

    She's useless and he's not much better.

    Her interviewing style is about as challenging as a mashed banana.

    When speaking to the presenter -

    - the mention of any cuts bar pip is too slight even to count
    - she does mention mobility which is not part of the green paper
    - when raising the £20 uc uplift she makes no reference to the fact that those on legacy benefits got no uplift.

    Waffle waffle waffle, lovely hair and nails

    Actually, I'll go.with some actual year tens.
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      · 2 days ago
      @godgivemestrength Yep, I've been saying this for weeks.  David Frost, Brian Walden, Robin Day etc would have torn all of this to shreds by now.
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      · 2 days ago
      @godgivemestrength Well said, this is the problem, dreadful “reporting and interviewing” from people who don’t really care of our problems and have no courage to challenge the evil monster they were interviewing. 
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    · 2 days ago
    Great work benefits and work team for this important update. It's good to read how far we have come and there's lots of positive points. But we mustn't leave off the pressure, we've reached a critical point in our campaign. We must keep up the pressure on Mp's and contacting a member of the House of Lords is a good idea, the bill will need their approval so letting them know our views will certainly help. Don't give up hope friends. 
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      · 2 days ago
      @Ann The bill doesn't NEED the HOL approval. They can drag it on, but ultimately it will be voted through, or not as it may, by the HOC alone.

      The HOL hold no real power and it's more for pomp and ceremony than making any real difference to changes in bills.
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    · 3 days ago
    Journalist interviewing Liz Kendal at anfield, told not to ask about disability cuts.

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      · 2 days ago
      @James 🤣
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      · 2 days ago
      @Kevin @kevin, damn right. It would make great viewing, us with our pitchforks, chasing the senior cabinet. Hold that thought!
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      · 2 days ago
      @DA Nurse Ratched From One flew over the Cuckoo's nest!
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      · 2 days ago
      @DA She is a true sociopath at work, the only time she feels emotions is when she is ruining vulnerable peoples lives. This government is made up of monsters. We all need to grab our pitch forks and chase these monsters away. 
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      · 2 days ago
      @Lpot50 she is scaryyyyyyyyyy.

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