There were no big surprises for claimants in today’s budget, but a continued lack of certainty about what the future will bring. In particular, there is still no clarity about how the work capability assessment (WCA) will change and no mention whatsoever of changes to personal independence payment (PIP).

WCA

In today’s budget the chancellor announced that “We inherited the last government’s plan to reform the work capability assessment.  We will deliver the savings as part of our fundamental reform to the health and disability benefits system that my right honourable friend the work and pensions secretary will bring forward.”

So, the chancellor appears to be saying that Labour will match the projected savings to the DWP that were to be made by the Conservative’s WCA changes, but she has not confirmed that the savings will be made in the same way. 

ESA to UC migration

It is hardly news, but the budget document does confirm the ESA to UC managed migration has begun.

“The government will accelerate the migration of claimants onto UC from Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), bringing the start date forward from 2028 to September 2024. This move will bring more people into a modern benefit regime, continuing to ensure they are supported to look for and move into work. Around half of ESA claimants will receive more financial support on UC, while others will receive transitional protection to ensure nobody is worse off at the point at which they move over to UC.”

Carers allowance

The weekly earnings limit for carer’s allowance is to be increased to the equivalent of 16 hours a week at the national living wage. 

The chancellor also said that Labour also looking at a way to remove the current cliff edge, where going even a penny over the earnings limit ends eligibility for carer’s allowance.

The budget document states:

“The government is also giving carers greater flexibility to work and increase their financial security by raising the Carer’s Allowance Weekly Earnings Limit to the equivalent of 16 hours at the NLW. The changes will support those receiving  Carer’s Allowance, 70% of which are women, to start work or work more hours.64 This is an increase of £45 per week and will allow over 60,000 more carers to access Carer’s Allowance.65 This will be the largest increase to the earnings limit since Carer’s Allowance was introduced in 1976.”

“The government also recently announced an independent review into overpayments of Carer’s Allowance, which will consider how they occurred and what operational changes can be made to minimise the risk of future overpayments. Alongside this, the government will also carry out further work on the earnings limit to explore what more can be done to help support more carers into work.”

Fraud and error

In her speech, the chancellor confirmed that the DWP will be able to access claimants’ bank accounts.

Reeves said “I can today announce a crackdown on fraud in our welfare system, often the work of criminal gangs.  We will expand DWP’s counter fraud teams using innovative new methods to prevent illegal activity and provide new legal powers to crackdown on fraudsters, including direct access to bank accounts to recover debt.”

The budget document confirms that:

“The government is expanding DWP’s fraud and error staff by 3,000, as part of its £110 million investment in 2025-26 to tackle fraud and error. This is expected to deliver gross savings of £705 million in 2029-30. “

“The government will increase DWP’s powers to recover debt as part of the forthcoming Fraud, Error and Debt Bill. This is expected to save £260 million in 2029-30. “

“The government will invest in DWP to carry out additional checks on Universal Credit claimants who have changes in their circumstances, as part of a £110 million investment in 2025-26 to tackle fraud and error. This is expected to save £250 million in 2029-30.”

Universal credit  debt recovery

The government will reduce the proportion of money UC claimants can have deducted to repay debts from 25% down to 15% of the standard allowance.

“In addition, the government is helping low-income households on UC by allowing them to pay off their debts over a longer timeframe and keep more of their UC each month. The government is creating a new Fair Repayment Rate which caps debt repayments made through UC at 15% of the standard allowance. This will benefit around 1.2 million households as they will keep more of their UC award each month, with households expected to be better off by £420 a year on average. Around 700,000 of the poorest families with children will benefit as a result of this change, supporting the government’s ambition to tackle child poverty.”

Benefits uprating

The chancellor confirmed that working age benefits will be uprated by just 1.7% in April 2025.

“DWP and HMRC working age benefits uprating for 2025-26 – The government will uprate working age benefits by September 2024 CPI of 1.7% from April 2025. This will see around 5.7 million families on Universal Credit gain £150 on average in 2025-26.”

Get Britain working

The Chancellor confirmed that “The government will shortly be publishing the Get Britain Working white paper tackling the root causes of inactivity with an integrated approach across health, education and welfare.”

The budget document states:

“ Get Britain Working White Paper – The government will shortly publish the Get Britain Working White Paper which will set out its £240 million investment to trail new ways of getting people back into work. The government will test new approaches and collect robust evidence on how to tackle the root causes of ill-health-related inactivity, support young people who are ‘not in education, employment, or training’ (NEET), and help people to develop their careers.”

“Get Britain Working Trailblazers – As part of the Get Britain Working package, the government will establish eight trailblazer areas across England and Wales that bring together health, employment and skills services to improve the support available to those who are inactive due to ill health and help them return to work. This will include NHS England Health and Growth Accelerators in at least three Integrated Care Systems to develop evidence of the impact of targeted action on the top health conditions driving economic inactivity.“

You can download the full budget document here

 

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    · 10 hours ago
    When we receive our payments we must spend most of those payments.
    A huge proportion eventually winds it's way back to HMRC via various taxes.
    If you have to spend all of your payment the only portion that won't eventually go back to the government is when someone saves it.
    Therefore the idea that we are not economically active is rhetorically divisive nonsense designed to belittle us. Don't fall for it !! We claimants are the most economically active of all !!
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      · 2 hours ago
      @philip True the rich hoard money don't spend it
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      · 3 hours ago
      @Anon Exactly, you could make a strong case that the whole economy would grind to a halt with businesses failing left right and centre without us and pensioners keeping it all going.
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      · 5 hours ago
      @philip I've made this point a few times, there is no such thing as a non tax payer. VAT is added to everything except groceries. 
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    · 1 days ago
    i think labour might plan do this next sping 2025
    a new non-means tested benefit for all disabled people
    read more in link below.......thoughts? .........


    Key proposals for reform

    The most significant proposals considered in the paper involve a more radical rethinking of how the benefits system assesses work capability, by removing the question of work capability from universal credit (UC) entirely.

    One proposal is to create a new, non-means tested benefit for people who have health problems that prevent them from working. The rate of this benefit would be set below the total amount of money currently received by someone who is deemed to have limited capability for work and work-related activity (LCWRA), but above the basic rate of UC. The payments would continue for a time-limited period if someone were to enter the workforce before being phased out. A claimant would only be put forward for a full WCA – the route to access the additional £416/month LCWRA element – if they had not entered employment after 2 years. The paper does suggest, however, that there could be a route for ‘people with severe health conditions or disability’ to be ‘fast tracked to the WCA regime’.

    A second, more radical option set out in the paper is to eliminate the WCA entirely – including the additional financial support that can currently be accessed via the LCWRA element – and instead increase the generosity of personal independence payment (PIP) to compensate for this.

    These proposals would mean a very significant change to the current operation of the system. There are clear similarities with the approach proposed by the previous government in the health and disability white paper, but there are also interesting differences. It’s worth considering the different aspects of the proposals in turn. 
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      · 11 hours ago
      @darinfan Well I hope they are planning it. It would take 100 years to implement. Spring 2025? Hahahahaha.
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      · 22 hours ago
      @coolday There's absolutely nothing to say that Labour are planning this. 
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    · 1 days ago
    There was a commenter here who recently said this "they can't force someone who can't work into work". It's that simple. Anyone else getting fatigue from worry? I just don't have the energy for it so I come to the most rational conclusions. 

    Try your best to ignore the doom and gloom especially from rags which take pleasure in this subject.
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      · 22 hours ago
      @Dave Dee That was probably me.  I confess that I'm a little on edge, even though I think that.  But half the reason for being on edge is that other people's doom and gloom rhetoric is contagious!
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    · 1 days ago
    I have agoraphobia and can't even leave the house and always feel so helpless and vulnerable now, can't even sleep or eat as I just feel like something bad is coming.
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      · 1 hours ago
      @K Just don't do what I've done,gone and got so worked up because of agoraphobia and it being impossible for me to work, I've had a nervous breakdown and am currently in a right mess,even struggling to swallow food atm because of severe anxiety and depression, all caused by this exact thing,the uncertainty, the terror, the feeling like my life will be over if they do anything drastic,it's terrified me for so long  and now it's just continuing on and on,how many others have found themselves here with me because of the politicians,all of them !! they do not care about us and the suffering they're causing is unacceptable, they gave pushed me even further away from recovery, luad of absute tossers 
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    · 1 days ago
    I have agoraphobia and can barely leave the house, and only with my partner. Usually once a month at max, and I'm so scared of what could be coming. This has absolutely crushed my mental health 
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      · 21 hours ago
      @K But we NEVER know what a govt has planned for benefits.  I don't know why everyone is worried NOW.  The Tories had been in for 13 years when they came up with their plans last year, so the idea that a new govt is more destabilising isn't really true.  When I was having mental health issues over my own health anxiety, I had to do the obvious thing: stop looking it up on the web.  And with absolutely no real info on what the future holds for us online, it might be better for your mental health to simply not go looking for it, too, or to stop reading other people's rather random thoughts on what might or might not be coming.  The answer is we don't know - and reading what X or Y think on a forum isn't going to change that. 
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    · 1 days ago
    Pulling together some of the concerns and comments below, the commitment you have to make.with a UC claim is called the Claimant Commitment (at the job centre or can be by phone) and is tailored to various circumstances, including the group you have been placed in after the WCA. So if you have already had a WCA and been placed in ESA Support Group/WRAG, you must stand firm at the managed migration stage to retain that status, by citing regulation 19, and go into UC LCWRA/LCW.

    There is nothing to fear from the Claimant Commitment if you are in the right group. The Claimant Commitment protects against demands you cannot meet.. It is fighting to get into the right group at each WCA (via mandatory reconsideration and Tribunal stages if/as necessary) which is vital.

    Proposed changes to the WCA, so far, will not affect claimants already allocated a group, who will not be reassessed after any proposed WCA changes. Any reassessments between now and proposed WCA changes will be just like any WCA you have already had, with the same criteria, but where you might have to challenge your decision as to the group allocated. Any challenge you win will be backdated so you will benefit from it from the start of your award.

    Here is the government Claimant Commitment link. It is a long read, but clear enough, and no need for sensational and unnecessary scare mongering. We need to follow the government regulations and insist that they do too:



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    · 1 days ago
    Looking online it says you have to sign UC commitment to receive payment
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      · 1 days ago
      @Jon Jon? Send the link please.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Jon @Jon will log back on here Thursday teatime I been to see Blackpool illuminations tonight and had a relaxing walk 
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    · 2 days ago
    Just as a side note everyone has to agree to a JC commitment  upon Migrating to UC ,either in person or via phone ,but for support group it's merely to state you will Inform them of any changes  this is Not a work commitment.
    You can ask for an adjustment if you find a F2F at the job center too much and they can speak to you via a phone call. They did this for my brother inlaw who has a very rare painful blood disorder. 
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      · 7 hours ago
      @The Dogmother YEP  ask for phone call  2010 equality diversity act  . reasonable adjustnments . phone call not F2F  & jcp . 
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    · 2 days ago
    Contribution based esa support group has work commitments, income related esa support group does not. So some things very wrong here. They can't change goalposts willy nilly. No legislation has come through with regards to any changes to WCA or groups, and it would take years to implement with tweaks along the way. 
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      · 44 minutes ago
      @Jon @Jon I will be awaiting your news at Thursday teatime I think they will back off once you get paid a lcwra  status is confirmed they probably think we don’t know the game but after 25 years of this game I’ve learned a few things 
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      · 2 hours ago
      @The Dogmother I think the job centre might be being abit crafty as I sent them a message on the UC journal asking about my limited capacity for work and would I be worse off on UC and they didn't answer the questions but simply said we had alot to talk about at our Thursday meeting so it makes me wonder if there trying to get us onto UC on the cheap 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Jon @Jon do all you can to help yourself. Good luck. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @The Dogmother Unless the JSP try to railroad you in my interview I will state support group and regulation 19 plus transitional protection and see what they say 
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    · 2 days ago
    Doesn’t there have to be a change in the law before they can change the rules?
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    · 2 days ago
    Someone's posted a link on this thread  for .gov looks like nothing is being said till next year their not following Torie cuts apparently but it's now just wondering are they going to do worse  are they going to pilot something with samples of people  but another  thing the rumour of high court looking at the changes in December .
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    · 2 days ago
    So it's looking like if you don't agree to the universal credit commitments ie work search etc you will receive no money
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      · 1 days ago
      @Jon @Jon please let us all know. Good luck. Hope it's not too bad for you. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Indeed @Indeed same here the bank statements one I’m just going to deal with cash anyway 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Truth I will let you how I get on Thursday at my interview
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      · 2 days ago
      @Truth I will let you know about my JSP interview next week then we will no whether to be worried or not
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      · 2 days ago
      @Truth Yes it’s scaring me a lot.
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    · 2 days ago
    Don't know what to think anymore the media scare mongering and lying and  nothing on .gov is making sense they  added about the budget it doesn't add up to what trustable sources that are nothing to do with the media  are saying  also  seen somewhere  else that people who've been on ESA  for years will be the ones the government are forcing back to work first are they on about support group or the other group  then  it's people with bad knees hips anxiety and depression  and people who've been signed off in the last 5 years  on UC  confusing what's true does people  have to wait til next year nothing is being said now .
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      · 2 days ago
      @Lill I think like many here (presumably) - we struggle with anticipatory anxiety and not being given "clear signals" tends to feed this enervating rumination.

      The only advise is to refocus where you can - "on the day" and those things you can control.

      I find I have to completely switch off from online chatter and news articles for a day or so, just to remain emotionally balanced.

      The media is what it is and will feed off and promote potentially inflammatory data for clicks and views. I have a suspicion that many news feeds are now more fully automated as well, so articles will spread like the proverbial plague, along with cookies on our systems triggering specific information to be ranked up in priority.

      So if we tend to look at similar articles, that type of article will appear with greater frequency.

      There are no definite(s) at the moment, so it's best to take everything with a pinch of salt and consider tuning out until next year, if you struggle to deal with uncertainty and tidal waves of gloom.
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      · 2 days ago
      @Lill It's like the media are urgently trying keep this going non stop. You try look up for DWP news and all you get it them saying benefits going get cut and made to work and this thing about vouchers instead of money. What are they playing at here GAMES?If your in support group your unlikely to work again yet all of a sudden there will be work for these people out there as they will change the system on a computer so that you will be fit for work. They need explain this how that will happen. Someone at a desk comes up with a way trick and put more misery on the sick and disabled 
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    · 3 days ago
    My job coach has sent me messages about CV upload and what kind of work am I interested in got interview next week got to take identification
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      · 1 days ago
      @A @A I'll be worse off eventually when I'm forced kicking and screaming on to uc. 
      It's dreadful and it's not even about the money, I'd rather not have the horror of it all hanging over me either. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Jon @Jon ok will log back on here Thursday teatime if you really have to do job search on lcrwa then we all screwed from now on 
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      · 2 days ago
      @The Dogmother I'm in the support group and if I migrate to UC I would get an additional amount of about £173 per month.. But for the sake of not willing to have anything to do with a work coach and have keep checking a damn journal, I opted to forsake such £173 and rather stay on ESA until I get forced to migrate.
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      · 2 days ago
      @The Dogmother Income related esa
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      · 2 days ago
      @James h Fair enough I will play it by ear for now
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    · 3 days ago
    IMPORTANT ADVICE

    This is from Disabled People Against Cuts:

    "

    Many ESA claimants who are being moved onto Universal Credit under ‘managed migration’ are being asked to provide a new ‘fit note’ (med 3 certificate).

    This is NOT correct.

    YOUR RIGHTS

    Regulation 19 of the Universal Credit Transitional Provisions Regulations 2014 states that ESA claimants in the Work Related Activity Group (WRAG) or support group, are to be given the same treatment under UC.

    This means there is no need for a fit note. A fit note is only required if you are in the initial ‘assessment stage’ of making either an ESA claim or UC claim on the basis of ill health.

    WHAT TO DO

    To assert your rights in this situation, we recommend you post the following text in your UC journal for the attention of a Work coach:

    ‘I do not need to provide a fit note as I have already been assessed as having Limited Capability for Work/Limited Capability for Work and Work-related Activity, (delete as appropriate).

    Regulation 19 of the Universal Credit Transitional Provisions Regulations 2014 applies. It states that my LCW/RA status under ESA should transfer to the Universal Credit claim without the need for a new Work Capability Assessment and the LCW/RA element should be paid from the first UC payment.""


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    · 3 days ago
    I have emailed the BBC on numerous occasions about it's funny how millionaires can claim disability benefits, but, the vast amount of people on welfare benefits, are not and never will be millionaires!! I have more....
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      · 3 days ago
      @Lea I don't like the idea of turning on other disbaled people. Once you introduce means testing to PIP, it'll become exclusively an out-of-work benefit, as those in work will nolonger qualify. And at which point govt will say there's little point of PIP and will instead increase UC by a few quid a month.
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      · 3 days ago
      @Lea PIP isn't means tested, which means millionaires can claim. If means testing ever gets introduced then it would affect lots of low paid people who are slightly over the earnings threshold, as well as wealthy people. You can't have it both ways.
      I'm not defending rich people and I don't think it's morally right for them to claim PIP but I also don't want to see means testing introduced.

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    · 3 days ago
    I was reading comments from other forums and sites in regards of this and I didn't get upset over Rachel Reeves' budget, I got upset reading the amount of vitriol, hatred and dare I say jealousy poured onto people out of work due to mental/physical disabilities/incapacities. 

    Britain has a real growing issue with the above and it stems from rags like the Daily Mail, Telegraph and the Sun and their TV affiliate GB News. They hate disabled or incapacitated people on benefits yet they're fine with giving taxpayers money away to everything which has nothing to do with Britain which shows how they are hypocrites who punch down because they're cowards. 

    This has been my main problem with "Conservative" minded people, I was told that Conservative minded people are clever, intelligent and rational but whenever this subject comes up they recoil like snakes just waiting to pour their poison. Is it the Left we should be worried about in regards of Assisted Dying? I think the Conservative minded would love to see in their eyes the "deadwood got rid of" to "save money" which is eugenics by the way.

    Is a life on benefits easy street if you are not sound of mind or if you are physically incapacitated? No it isn't, I'm sure those commenting here can attest to that, it's not a matter of living, it's just existing, especially for people who live alone without family or friends or their faculties. 

    I'm sorry but it bugs me how anyone could punch down and do it so hypocritically too, it's them who needs an assessment to see if they're invertebrates. 

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    · 3 days ago
    Just seen on the BBC news website that housing benefit/local housing allowance is to be frozen next year. The majority of disabled people are in rented accommodation - this is potentially very bad news. Private landlords are selling up due to taxation and impending legislation. And social housing doesn't really exist.

    We're beginning to see the direction the Government is planning in relation to welfare reform.
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    · 3 days ago
    Reeves says to catch criminal gangs but she is using it as an excuse to bring in a snookers charter for ordinary claimants to catch anybody who goes a penny over the £6000 savings limit that has not been uprated for decades. Snoop on benefit claimants and pensioners bank accounts. This country is now as bad as China for snooping on its citizens.
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    · 3 days ago
    Hi, so i get esa and pip mobility, when i have to move to uc does this mean i will lose pip mobility? 
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      · 3 days ago
      @TD Uprating only 1.7% next April dont think you will see uprating much higher if inflation projections are correct for the next few years.
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      · 3 days ago
      @shawn Thanks for your replies
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      · 3 days ago
      @shawn transitional protection guarantees the same amount of allowances when you go to UC, but will eventually dwindle down to basic rate over a 5 year ish period (for instance, not getting the 4 or 5% increase each april). UC is in no way connected to PIP, which is not means-tested, and will remain at the same awards for you.
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      · 3 days ago
      @shawn No. There are two separate benefits. 

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