The DWP has hailed “landmark” new right to try legislation, which comes into force on 30 April, as having removed the fear of losing benefits if disabled claimants try work. But the details reveal that, in reality, the supposed guarantee is worthless and starting work can still trigger a reassessment.

The legislation inserts the words “doing work for payment or in expectation of payment, or doing voluntary work, is not a relevant change of circumstances” into parts of laws relating to reviews/reassessments for personal independence payment (PIP), universal credit (UC) and employment and support allowance (ESA).  (The new law does not apply to the 115,000 claimants aged 25-64 who are still in receipt of disability living allowance)

In a press release for what the DWP calls “landmark legislation”, disability minister Stephen Timms claims “Giving sick and disabled people legal protection to try work without fear is vital for their futures and for growing our economy. . . With 2.8 million people out of work due to long-term sickness, we’re removing the barriers that have held people back for too long.”

The truth, however, is very different.

In an explanatory memorandum to the Right To Try legislation, the DWP say that it is already the case that guidance to staff does not list starting work or voluntary work as being a reason for a reassessment or award review, but this is now being enshrined in law.

In other words, nothing about what the DWP is doing is changing. 

Unfortunately, this includes the fact that while starting work will not automatically trigger a review, it will trigger one if the decision maker decides it should.  As the memorandum goes on to explain:

“The Secretary of State retains discretion to reassess entitlement to one of these benefits for other reasons (for example, a change in condition, improvement in functional ability or suspected fraud) which could be indicated, for example, by undertaking work of a particular nature.

So, if “undertaking work of a particular nature” leads the DWP to suspect that there has been a change in your condition, an improvement in your functional ability or that you are a fraud then this can still lead to your award being looked at again.

It’s very hard to see how any disabled claimant would find this information so reassuring that they would attempt work “without fear”.

The Social Security Advisory Committee – members appointed by the DWP secretary of state, so definitely not a hotbed of radicals - made seven recommendations to improve the legislation so that disabled claimants would be genuinely reassured. These are detailed in the memorandum. 

Perhaps the most important of these is that the DWP should be legally prevented from initiating a reassessment within six months of a claimant starting paid or voluntary work, unless there is suspicion of fraud. 

The DWP say that they will “consider the proposal further and explore whether it can be incorporated into the future expansion of the Right to Try Work offer.”  Which sounds very much like a polite way of saying “No chance!”.

SSAC also recommended that if a claimant has a scheduled reassessment within the first six months of starting work, any activities they undertake as part of that work should not be used as evidence of a sustained improvement in their capacity.  The point being that a claimant may give up work again within the first six months because they discover that they simply cannot sustain the effort required.  The DWP flatly rejected this.

These two proposals together, genuinely would go a long way to allowing claimants to try work “without fear”.  The fact that neither will happen in the foreseeable future tells us everything we need to know.

Nothing has changed.

The Right To Try Work guarantee is worthless.

You can read the minutes of SSAC’s discussion with DWP officials about the Right To Try work.

Benefits and Work has updated our members’ guide to Permitted Work And Working While On Universal Credit Due To Sickness Or Disability, which also covers PIP and DLA. 

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    · 5 days ago
    It's either a con/a trap or universal credit staff don't know what they're talking about. I am on the LCWRA UC have been for several years as well as highest pip due to my disabilities. I asked universal credit if tried to start a business at home set up in a way i wouldn't need to deal with people face-to-face, to try it out if I'm capable and do it slowly around my health. Reply was that I'd need interview and assessment and a review which she said will likely lose the LCWRA straight away!! She also mentioned the minimum income floor to apply straight away! I thought you had 12months without the minimum income floor when on full disability elements. I'm wishing i hadn't even asked now. 
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      · 5 days ago
      @John
      It's a con, AND universal credit staff don't know what they're talking about!

      If you could lose LCWRA straight away for trying to start a business, then there is no right to try work without penalty.

      I'm pretty sure you get a start up period of 12 months for a business, when the mif doesn't apply.


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    · 10 days ago
    I see they claim 65,000 have accepted the voluntary help from from WRAG and LCWRA, so if they go beyond the rapid reclaim point, they'll return to a tougher, less money process; if it doesn't work out, savings for the government will be substantial over a decade. Voluntary means it's a trap and always will be, just a money saving exercise. 
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    · 13 days ago
    While some can and do work Making that first step is scary Especially if it very much feels like there is no safety net and that you are being pushed into it Many would love to get back to work But it is not viable for all The decisions seem very arbitrary and precarious When we are talking about peoples lives Lives that have not had a miraculous transformation over night But instead have the same issues as before Making a leap of faith into a job could cost you dearly and make your life worse physically mentally and in your capability of paying for your disability needs
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    · 14 days ago
    I’ve had two requests pop up on UC journal. It’s so worrying. How do I say no. Has anyone else replied? 
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      · 2 days ago
      @Lou Thank you. 
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      · 13 days ago
      @M.shirker I ignored mine on the journal and not heard anything that was two weeks ago.
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      · 13 days ago
      @Susie Susie,you tell them you are too unwell to consider this .Make sure there is no question you can do it,as soon as you say oh well maybe I can try something,they will never leave you alone.Just No thank you is all you say .
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      · 13 days ago
      @Susie @Susie If you don’t reply and leave it then a work coach will probabl book you in for an interview or a chat so it’s best to just say a polite no thanks or your not well at the moment maybe in the future sometime 
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    · 14 days ago
    Sounds iffy to me. I wish I was still fit enough to work. And doubt I'm on my own in that
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    · 14 days ago
    In a nutshell, NEVER TRUST ANYTHING you are told by the DWP.
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      · 14 days ago
      @Greasepaint You are 100% correct they have one function to take away your lifeline. Once they push you off the benefit they throw up difficulty after difficulty. They go from pretending they want to help to one answer appeal. In other go through the awful appeal process. No wonder people give up.
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    · 14 days ago
    Don't trust this system for a minute, once you leave the benefits system they will make it as difficult as possible to get back on the ladder,  plus , where are all these jobs ? 
    UC is cruel and punitive and urgently needs reforming 
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    · 17 days ago
    The only jobs that seem to be in abundance out of the 700k vacancies,are NHS plus Care and Support work.
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    · 18 days ago
    This is an old idea done badly. It was called fast tracking back to the benefit you were on after you tried out a job. It was around the time at the enterprise allowance. Both of those were good ideas. This is an old idea done badly. Moreover, no one‘s mentioning what happens with transitional protection. Is it lost? No one seems to be discussing it at all or pushing for an answer for it either. Of course we also shouldn’t get caught up too much in this game. Disabled people on health benefits could work before all of this. On the ESA  that could work 15 hours of 15 minutes and earn up to a certain figure. This is not an improvement in my honest opinion it’s a retrograde step dressed up as enablement. So I ask again, does anyone know whether this affects transitional protection because I suspect it does and I’m giving the heads up to anybody else out there who might not realise and take a job for five minutes that they then find they cannot do because they’ve been forced to take it or felt they’ve got to take it because there’s so much pressure on them. One could argue it’s morally in defensible and economically counter-productive but what you would do is destroy that transitional protect protection, conveniently.
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    · 18 days ago
    They did the same to people on incapacity benefits. Try working; you won't lose money. You had 3 months of rapid reclaim if it didn't work out or you started from scratch and then were told you need to claim ESA now. 
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    · 19 days ago
    Surely the whole point of encouraging people to try work is so they can be reassessed whether they succeed or fail & then have their benefits reduced no matter what their actual health requirements are. Undermining state provision of social security & replacing it with a multi-£bn private insurance  system which will greatly reward the politicians involved is & has been the whole point of so-called benefit reforms for decades. This just the same old, same old from a venal, corrupt DWP. 
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      · 14 days ago
      @billkruse Great point. The biggest con trick ever. Stigmatise and target social security to make way for private providers and people will willingly pay so as not to be labelled as 'scroungers'. Its evil genius.
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    · 19 days ago
    I read through the government statements and the underlying truth is that if you try work, it can and will be used against you, especially for PIP. They said that you would not be reassessed during the 6 months but you might be if they decided that your functional ability had improved through work. I also read that there had been previous tribunals and employer's evidence had been used to stop benefits. But Right to Try is voluntary, you do not have to opt in (as it pops up on UC pages) or be forced to do it. This is all from Gov.uk website.
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    · 20 days ago
    The 6 months proposal is nothing as well, if we assume e.g. the claimant tries a job, then after 2 months they lose the job, then they have 4 months protection which is basically 5 minutes.
    At least the Tory proposal was reassuring, they claimed there would be no WCA full stop for existing LCWRA unless either fraud or reported change of circumstances.
    What we have now is a shadow of that, they came close but it wont happen under a Labour government.
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      · 20 days ago
      @CC That was actually never their proposal, it was a misunderstanding that unfortunately spread before it could be clarified. They never meant no more assessments for existing LCWRA, that would not make sense if you think about it.
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    · 20 days ago
    They are actively discouraging people from trying work. By having a higher pre 2016 claim rate for LCWRA and a lower new claim rate. And by having other transitional protection higher benefits entitlements than new claims. So it is risky for people to stop claiming if they might have to reclaim latter and the old claim cannot be reopened (claims closed for less than 6 months can in theory be reopened).
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      · 18 days ago
      @John Exactly. Dwp/government never understand how counterproductive welfare economy measures can be. Such lack of foresight missing the likely effect of cutting pensioner winter fuel being higher numbers claiming pension credit, and rising pension age leading to more claims for incapacity and disability benefits.

      Claimants on legacy rates are just going to sit tight.
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    · 20 days ago
    So basically it's a trap not actual support and help for those who want to try or return to work, shock horror another crafty plan set up by crafty politicians. 
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    · 20 days ago
    I've always seen this as an impossible circle to square. Any attempt at work can (and almost always will) be used against the claimant as evidence of capacity or at least potential capacity to do so in the future. You paint a target on your back regardless.
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      · 14 days ago
      @Sunny Like all this garbage we are soft easy to hit group. A distraction at best. Its as hard as hell to get on to benefits so you can survive try doing anything fair to be a reasonable human being you are treat as a number to be erased.
      Those who deal with claims are callous and indifferent some seem intentionally cruel.
      Don't be reasonable or helpful they will attack you with.
      If you are unable to meet the commitments of a full time job that is the position you are in. You cannot work that is your reality has is the DWP.

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      · 16 days ago
      @Avie It's a trap you can try work they say without fear but once you do then they will say you can work and reduce your benefits and maybe re assess you. I was told by workcoack not to risk it 
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