Ten major charities have issued a joint briefing condemning the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill as Labour continues to insist it will go ahead with Tuesdays vote, in spite of a large scale rebellion.

The charities behind the report are:  Scope, Trussel, Mind, Citizens Advice, Sense, Joseph Rowntree Foundation, New Economics Foundation, Child Poverty Action Group, Z2K, Turn2Us.

Amongst the finding is the briefing are:

As a % of GDP, the UK government is spending the same amount on working-age benefits as it was in 2015. This stands at around 5% and is not projected to change by 2030. This is because we have seen deep cuts to benefits like Universal Credit alongside the increase in people claiming health and disability benefits.

We spend a similar amount on these benefits as comparable countries in the OECD. Even considering the more recent increase in claims, our overall spend on disability benefits as a % of GDP is similar to or lower than that of countries including France, Australia and New Zealand.

The provisions in this bill would reduce support for over 3.2 million disabled people. They will push between 300,000 and 400,000 people into poverty. They will also drive 440,000 people in disabled households into severe hardship – a measure of deep poverty which captures people likely to need to use a food bank.

Added investment in employment support will, at most, result in between 1-3% of the 3.2m people seeing their support cut move into work.

 83% of the public has heard of the planned cuts, with 58% saying they are a bad idea and just 32% saying they are a good idea.

You can download a copy of the joint briefing from this link.  Definitely worth sending details to your MP, regardless of whether they signed the amendment.  Sadly, unless Labour cancel the vote on the bill scheduled for Tuesday, then there is no reason for campaigners to ease off.

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    · 17 hours ago
    Kemi Badenoch is offering to support Starmer's welfare cuts if he works with the Tories. The Tories want bigger cuts to disability benefits, in particular they want those with mental health conditions targeted more, and mobility component targeted as well as daily living component. 
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      · 15 hours ago
      @john She also in her 3 terms wants no more tax rises this autumn as one of her conditions to back the bill.

      It’s 99% on the more tax hikes are coming so if starmer ‘agrees’ to kemis terms he’d almost certainly be doing so with fingers crossed behind his back

      Which would give kemi further ammo and scandal to blow up in 3-5 months time

      If starmer was playing chess he wouldn’t be checkmated but his first “check” of the ‘game’ may be approaching 
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      · 16 hours ago
      @john Evil ********
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    · 17 hours ago
    “This ends one of two ways: either we sack him (Starmer) or he sacks her (Reeves),” the MP said.

    The chancellor is being blamed more for the push to cut welfare than the beleaguered work and pensions secretary Liz Kendall, who has to try to win the vote.


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-welfare-cuts-disability-benefits-starmer-b2775890.html
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    · 17 hours ago
    I have been saying this about the welfare spending against the tax revenue and the increase is insignificant and would in fact fall if the government policies for growth resulted in real growth rather than stagnation.
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    · 17 hours ago
    And there's more (from the same article)

    A senior backbencher reiterated the claim that the chancellor’s position is under threat.

    “This ends one of two ways: either we sack him (Starmer) or he sacks her (Reeves),” the MP said.

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    · 17 hours ago
    Where can I see who the latest MP’s  to sign this are . Now at 124 
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    · 17 hours ago
    It only cut off
    2) W(e)
    3) W(e)
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    · 17 hours ago
    AND HERE IT IS!

    In return for the Tory vote Kemi Badenoch offers to rescue Starmer’s welfare reforms - with 3 conditions!

    1) The welfare budget is too high, it needs to come down. This bill does not do that.
    e need to get people back into work. Unemployment is rising, jobs are disappearing, and even the government’s own impact assessments say that the package in this bill will not get people back to work.
    e want to see no new tax rises in the autumn. We can’t have new tax rises to pay for the increases in welfare and other government spending.

    "We're  all doomed" (to be read out loud in a dad's army Scottish accent)
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      · 13 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard In the most horrible award it’s hard to know who to pick . What a ghoulish predatory evil person. Doesn’t have a heart so no wonder she doesn’t have time for mental health issues. Every day everything seems to just get more upsetting I just can’t cope with this anymore. They must know how horrible this is and they don’t care. I need to take a break from it I think. Tried my best . 
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      · 15 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard The government has already said it won't make any further changes and Badenoch says the bill doesn't meet the first two of her conditions. As for the third, there is no way Starmer is going to make that sort of commitment. She knows very well that Starmer can't meet her conditions so it seems the Tories will still vote against. I suppose they could abstain, but it would look more than a bit ridiculous to say "this bill fails to do what we want it to so we're going to, er.....abstain." 
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      · 16 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard None of the things she's listed are remotely achievable and Kemi knows it. Yes, Starmer could go further with the cuts but then who would be left to actually vote for it in his own party? The handful of loyalists that signed the Get Britain Working letter and exactly 5 Reform MPs. He'd be in worse situation than he is already, just from a different corner.

      As for promising "no tax rises in the autumn". Kemi knows that's on the table no matter what. Sucking up to Trump and Israel won't pay for itself, after all.

      Only chance Starmer has is going 'oh yeah, I concede to these demands' crosses finger behind back and then just proceeding to break every single promise once the bill has been voted through. After all, another imaginary "black hole" can appear at any time and surely he can't be blamed for that, can he? These things happen, after all.

      But yes, I feel Kemi is on the warpath because Starmer turned around and said today that the Tories "don't know what they want because they don't know what they're doing!" to that effect so this is absolutely her trying to appear politically savvy while also being all "lol you're on your own, then!". 
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      · 16 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard Well, the welfare bill won't meet points 1 & 2, so we should be safe.  Shouldn't we? 
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    · 18 hours ago
    I am signed up for 38 degrees, they are voting against the cuts, i also used them to email my MP.
    More signatures would be appreciated thank you.

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    · 18 hours ago
    Sadiq Khan Joins Labour Backlash As Rebellion Against Starmer's Welfare Cuts Grows

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      · 14 hours ago
      @Hilde You wouldn't want Andy Burnham he's as bad as every other Labour MP don't be taken in.
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      · 15 hours ago
      @James I wish Andy Burnham would run for MP
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      · 15 hours ago
      @James Especially the latter 
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      · 17 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard I have had a feeling that Sadiq Khan is going to run for MP much like Boris Johnson did in order to challenge the leadership! Starmer would be in real trouble. The same may also happen with Andy Burnham too
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    · 19 hours ago
    The charities that have not come forward and stand by the people they are meant to represent need to have their funding stopped.  

    Bipolar UK has done absolutely nothing and kept quite even though bipolar is a serious mental health disorder that’s many sufferers are forced to claim UC and PIP to survive. 

    So as of today I’m withdrawing my donations and I urge anyone who donates to any disability or mental health charity that has not condemned the cuts and fought for their the sufferers  they represent. 
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      · 9 hours ago
      @Bob
      The very little I've seen was the RBL posted on their social media pages that they were 'concerned'.  

      Help for Heroes I seen a YouTube video they posted of an ex pilot and Antony Cotton from Coronation Street on Good Morning Britain:


      I posted a comment which is the latest one on there but it doesn't look like anyone read it or liked it.  I got no reply from Help For Heroes on my comment either.

      Timms was asked a question by a tory MP and gave the usual waffle answer.  Then talked about a white paper coming later regarding Veterans.  They'd better not be thinking of reforms like this to make changes to War Pensions, AFCS and AFIP, so they can go after Veterans even more on top of these cuts, which will already affect Veterans.

      This whole thing from start to finish is a filthy, evil sham, filled with lies, gaslighting, hatred, discrimination, patronising and is going to utterly destroy lives and kill people.  It has already caused untold damage and harm.  There are so many already talking of suicide as they see no way or reason to live anymore.

      Enough is enough!
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      · 14 hours ago
      @Mick I wrote to My mp who thankfully pointed out it will affect veterans but your right no mention in the media or from anyone publicly
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      · 15 hours ago
      @Mick Mick, i gave up with Action for M.E. a few years back. I agree about M.E Association. They want government money. Never mind the people they're supposed to represent. 
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      · 16 hours ago
      @Dez The Resolution Foundation doesn't seem to have been noticed much that they were a part of all this and then suddenly changed their tune!
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      · 16 hours ago
      @Kevin And trade unions.
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    · 19 hours ago
    if you want to email the Speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, use this link:

    https://www.parliament.uk/business/commons/the-speaker/contact-speaker-house-of-commons
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      · 1 hours ago
      @gingin Thanks for this idea! Just emailed. I found it helpful to point out his essential role in role in upholding democracy against efforts by others to evade and subvert it.
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      · 17 hours ago
      @gingin Just emailed...easy and suggest we all do if we physically can
      Father of a Downs Syndrome son
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    · 19 hours ago


    Dear *****

    Thank you for your email, Mr Speaker has asked me to respond on his behalf.

    The Speaker has the power, under Standing Order No 32, to select amendments for debate. The Chair is not expected to give reasons for the decision on selection of amendments but I can confirm the contents of your email have been noted.

    Kind regards,
    (Speaker’s Office Administrative Assistant)

    Dear Sir Lindsay Hoyle,

    The amendment put forward by 123 Labour MPs (and counting) yesterday evening outlines the very serious shortcomings of the Pathways to Work bill. I support making our welfare state sustainable, but this cannot be without proper consultation and a full impact assessment of the effects of these measures on the lives of disabled people, their children and their unpaid carers, as well as on the health and social care system. If these proposals hold water, this will be revealed in the autumn. It is unconscionable that MPs are being asked to vote on this legislation before then.

    Yours sincerely, 
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      · 15 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard Thanks Yorkie

      The Right Hon Sir Lindsay Hoyle MP
      Dear Sir Lindsay Hoyle
      An amendment to the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill was signed yesterday by an initial 108 Labour MPs. I understand that the number of signatures currently stands at over 120. It is clear that the bill's position is precarious and a deal with the Conservatives to vote it through may result in it becoming harsher still. This would be devastating.
      The amendment declines to give a second reading to the bill, giving a very compelling set of reasons that include the fact that the Office for Budget Responsibility is not due to publish its analysis of the employment impact of these reforms until the autumn of 2025. In addition, there have been no formal consultation with disabled people.
      I hope that you choose this amendment for debate.
      Kind regards
      NAME
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard Hey Yorkie Bard, evil welfare cut plans make us poorer but with a much richer vocabulary 😆
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      · 18 hours ago
      @gingin Gingin - I followed your lead!

      The Right Hon Sir Lindsay Hoyle MP
      Dear Sir Lindsay Hoyle
      An amendment to the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill was signed yesterday by an initial 108 Labour MPs. I understand that the number of signatures currently stands at 123.
      The amendment declines to give a second reading to the bill, giving a very compelling set of reasons that include the fact that the Office for Budget Responsibility is not due to publish its analysis of the employment impact of these reforms until the autumn of 2025. In addition, there have been no formal consultation with disabled people.
      I hope that you choose this amendment for debate.
      Kind regards
      Yorkie Bard
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      · 19 hours ago
      @gingin Gingin - unconscionable - today's word!
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    · 19 hours ago
    Very pleased to see Sense have added their name to the document to condemn the Govt's welfare bill (I have dual sensory loss due to maternal Rubella). Extremely disappointed, but not surprised, that my former employers RNIB have not added their name.
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      · 1 hours ago
      @MATT My father was a social worker and had to interact with RNIB at board meetings- he was not impressed, put it that way! I’m sorry to hear this but not surprised

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