How do you think Labour will treat disabled claimants if, as seems increasingly likely, they form the next government?  Will they be better or worse than the Conservatives?

Last week’s Labour party manifesto left our readers divided on what the future might be like for disabled claimants under Labour.  The document made few references to benefits and gave no clues as to what its attitude would be to major issues such as ESA to UC migration, proposed Green paper changes to PIP or how exactly the WCA might be reformed.

Many readers felt that Labour was just being cautious, because any hint of being soft on claimants would be jumped on by the right-wing press.

Others thought that Labour were saying little because they do not have anything positive to say to disability benefits claimants.  Some think there is little difference between the two parties and some commentors even believe that Labour would be worse news for claimants than the Conservatives.

Certainly, the manifesto could have offered some hope to, for example Carer’s Allowance claimants. A change to the current cliff edge earnings limit would not have major cost implications.

And, to ensure claimant safety, Labour could have offered to look again at the very tight ESA to UC migration deadline imposed on the DWP by the Conservatives.  Delaying the transfer would not cost anything, given that it was previously delayed to 2028 to save money.

Labour could also have stated in the manifesto that they would look at the Green paper proposals for PIP, but that it was unlikely that a voucher system or a catalogue would play any part in any future plans.  Again, this would not have had cost implications.

None of these undertakings would have offered much in the way of ammunition to the right wing press, but all of them would have reassured claimants that Labour would give them some respite from the current relentless attacks.

On the other hand, no part of Labour’s plans include cutting benefits in order to raise cash for other purposes, such as tax cuts.

And, whilst they have said they will replace or reform the WCA, they have not suggested that they will reform PIP.

So, if benefits will play a major part in deciding who you will vote for, readers will have to make an educated guess as to what Labour might do based on minimal information.

Knowing what other claimants are thinking may be helpful in reaching a decision.

So, please take part in our poll to tell us whether you think life would be easier, harder or much the same under Labour rather than the Conservatives and, if you wish, give your reasons in the comments section below.

You can only vote once and we’ll publish the results on Monday 1 July.

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    · 5 months ago
    This looks positive from a prospective Labour MP.  Highlights that disabled people need support, not sanctions and because of long waiting lists, people are sick longer

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    · 5 months ago
    At the present time the Tories are scaremongering telling the public Labour will increase taxes,resorting to their usual dirty tricks programme seen it all before ,after the last fourteen years,does anyone really think that Labour could  be any worse in ANYTHING benefits included .                        
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      · 5 months ago
      @Jack c Jack C sorry but yes I think Labour can be worse or at least as bad, that is not to let the Tories off in any shape or form, but sadly I have no faith in any political party to deliver absolutely anything. We are voiceless at the ballotbox our vote counts for nothing, the women who fought and died for us to get the vote wasted their time and lives, we are never listened to and our voices and opinions are ignored and that goes for all parties.
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    · 5 months ago
    I think Labour will be kinder than the Conservative Party on
    Disability benefits. Rachel Reeves was on LBC radio and a caller asked her if she would be getting rid of PiP and she said no. This is an open letter being sent to whoever the government will be on July 4th from the MS society but helps raise awareness to any government for all. Worth adding your signature to this: 

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      · 5 months ago
      @Alice Saying they won't scrap it doesn't mean they won't change it to vouchers or a catalogue system.
      The Tories aren't scrapping pip, they want to change it.
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    · 5 months ago
    I just signed this important petition on Organise, please can you add your name?

    Bring PIP and work capability assessors in-house to treat disabled claimants with dignity!
    https://organise.network/s/fa7f7f519578
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    · 5 months ago
    I believe both these parties are completely against disabled rights and thank you for publishing other parties manifesto. They both show to me an attitude of ‘let’s pick on the disabled’ knowing we are the most vulnerable people in society today.
    Totally unacceptable and disgusting.
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    · 5 months ago
    I think Labour and the Conservatives are as bad as each other they tell you things they think you want to hear to get your vote 
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    · 5 months ago
    I think Labour will be more supportive as I remember years ago a conservative daughter speaking out about how hard the party were on disabled people. This Tories have targeted disabled, anyone going through the PIP process knows what 
    a nightmare it is.
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    · 5 months ago
    Not to make a statement before the election on PIP concerns me as I believe Labour will not change the current DWP green paper proposals and that the genuine disabled people will suffer even more.
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    · 5 months ago
    its disappointing that Labour has chosen to be quiet, on the issues regarding to Welfare Reforms 
    with regards to the Tory's they would bring in changes to bring in Sanction's on Sick & Disabled people, so the choice is clear Voting for Labour Would be the less of two evils, and disabled groups can work better with Labour, than Tory's     
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    · 5 months ago
    DPAC sent out an email last week;

    Labour has published an election manifesto that has been shorn of key promises the party made on disability rights last autumn.
    There will also be alarm that the manifesto has avoided all mention of the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.
    Meanwhile, one of the biggest holes in the manifesto is its failure to promise any action on serious and continuing concerns about the safety of the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) and the countless deaths linked to its actions and failings.
    Despite mounting concerns in recent months over safeguarding, including more revelations from Disability News Service (DNS) this week (see separate story), there is not a single mention in the manifesto of how a Labour government would address these concerns.
    Last year, DNS obtained a copy of the party’s National Policy Forum report, an internal party document that is supposed to form the basis of the manifesto.
    In that report, the party promised to “ensure that respect and dignity are once more at the heart of our social security system” and that “every stage of the social security system will be supportive and accessible”.
    It also promised to overhaul “the current unfair and punitive Tory system and end punitive Tory sanctions which strip away people’s dignity”.
    None of these pledges appear in the manifesto, and there is only a fleeting mention of universal credit, the working-age benefit system that has been at the centre of many of the recent safeguarding concerns.'

    Etc,etc,etc


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    · 5 months ago
    Don't forget this is a GENERAL election, so we are voting for the GOVERNMENT. To get rid of the Tories we have to vote TACTICAL each for our own constituency. In the link here you can look up which party to vote for your constituency to get rid of the Tories. That changes sometimes, so check right again before going voting!

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    · 5 months ago
    I think they have to be a lesser evil than the tories - but I don't think it will be by a huge amount. I think they will be less likely to introduce really evil policies but I can't see them undoing all the damage that tories have done. Not THIS 'Labour'

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    · 5 months ago
    if there is minimal info regarding Labours plan about disabled people, then how the hell is it of any use to ask for opinions
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      · 5 months ago
      @chris If there is minimal information (though comments by various shadow ministers do seem somewhat worryingly indicative) then it is almost certainly because  "Labour" intends to continue with the general policy of the Tory administration ... or inflict worse .... but would rather not advertise that oppressive similarity till after the election.
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    · 5 months ago
    I'm in Northern Ireland. The way we vote is different, can't directly vote for either party. I'm seriously hoping that Labour won't be as harsh, but it's looking that way, and stressing everyone out I won't know what to do. 
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      · 4 months ago
      @A The Conservative Party does stand candidates in Northern Ireland. They will be standing in five constituencies there in this election: https://www.niconservatives.com/news/our-general-election-candidates
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      · 5 months ago
      @A N.I is funded via Westminster with the department for communities dealing with the benefit system, Stormont can dictate which way they want to administer those benefits, so, in essence they an say yes or no to pip changes, wca,UC migration etc. But as they are reliant on London for funding it looks like the N.I devolved government will just follow the Status quo. So whoever gets in the system will be the same for those in N.I. unless they start to fund themselves. But that would be a huge ask. Sadly. 
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    · 5 months ago
    Since the three biggest political parties in Britain are still intent on imposing the 'welfare and work' agenda devised by Unum -- which actually boasted of its influence --  then there is nothing at all to choose between them -- they are all thoroughly rotten. 
    Right down to fervently unquestioning, mass-media relayed, adherence to the "work makes you free" and "work cures all ailments" doctrine devised by that fraudulent (convicted as such in the USA *prior* to being contracted by UK government in the mid 1990s) income and health insurance corporation. 
    Convergence with the worst of America .... plus successive governments miraculously finding vast sums of public money (otherwise claimed not to exist!) to subsidise the US-empire's foreign wars.  
    All underpinned by a blatant but forever recited economics *lie* that sovereign State financing is the same as individual household financing.  The lie which seeks to justify perpetual infliction  of *austerity* upon the public, but at the same time ensures massive profits for the private, trans-national financiers and their parasitic system. 
    None of the above will change under a Starmer regime.  
    Quite simply, those who rule, no matter which establishment Party label franchise is currently in office, regard the general public -- including the disabled -- as no more than disposable commodities.  
    It really is an ideological matter .... below their ever more threadbare  semantic veneer of fake differentiation, *all* of the establishment Parties share the same basic ideology and utterly corrupt "values".

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      · 5 months ago
      @Timewarp

      The problem is if you vote Green (which would be my personal preference) you keep the Tories in power who will disappear the ballot box altogether. Labour want to lower the voting age AND give voting rights to the resident EU-citizens, so if Labour wins only ONCE, we should win millions of democracy-orientated voters for the future, who will then give smaller parties a better chance for life. The alternative: a fast Tory-slide into a full-blown dictated Police State of dystopian fascism!
      The Tories are 99% psychopaths, whereas Labour has "only" about 50% psychopaths, which will indeed bring a lot of infighting and U-turns, but compared (!) to the rapid Tory-destruction it will save lives and win us time for now until we got rid of our Belorussian voting system.
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    · 5 months ago
    I sincerely HOPE Labour will be less harsh than the Tories. They surely can't be worse and I have low expectations. I will vote for my Plaid Cymru candidate who is the sitting MP. He has a reputation for being a good hard working constituency MP and for listening to people. I will push him to vote for progressive policies.

    FYI Plaid Cymru"s manifesto "opposes the Conservatives’ proposed changes to the Work Capability Assessment and their ‘Back to Work’ plan, which again appears to blame people for being unwell and unable to work as they would wish to do so. We reject the discourse of blaming people for the circumstances in which they find themselves"
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    · 5 months ago
    Tories are only interested in supporting the well off. They care nothing for the most vulnerable in society and will pick on those claiming benefits rather than tackle those who earn millions but dodge paying taxes. They look after their own.
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    · 5 months ago
    It doesn't bode well that Labour are reluctant to make any statement of intention with regards to benefits and I'm sure this means either 1) they have no idea as will pretty much everything else (it would appear) or 2) what they are intending is going to be even harsher and they are keeping it under wraps. It appears to me that the current Labour leader only tells people what they want to hear and if he becomes PM he will only then decide (with much needed assistance) what he is going to inflict on the nation. TBH none of the parties appear to be worthy of the position but I do actually fear the impact of a Labour government, as things stand!
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    · 5 months ago
    Hi, Does anyone have any idea/feeling on when labour change the WCA if it will apply to new claims on or also to existing claims? Thanks
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    · 5 months ago
    My experience of claiming any kind of benefits is that it was easier under the previous Labour government than it has become under the Conservatives.  Remembering way back, it was easier even under the long Tory reign which began in 1979 than it is now (although I have no personal experience of claiming benefits then).  I don't believe Labour could be any harsher than the present Government has been and, although I would like to vote Green because I have long believed that a universal basic income would be the best way forward for the majority of ordinary people, I shall vote tactically, as I have always done, to keep the Conservatives out.  In our constituency, the sitting Tory MP is a local man and has been generally good at making representations about local concerns, but he recently wrote a very strident article in the local paper in support of Mel Stride and his proposed PIP reforms, so he needs to go now.  Fortunately, we have a very good Labour candidate who also grew up in the area, so understands our particular concerns, and I shall be voting for him.  The same local newspaper also recently published an article about how people in Mr. Stride's constituency are actively forming pressure groups to persuade others to vote tactically to oust him - I hope I will be able to stay up late enough to see them succeed!  It might be my "Portillo moment"!

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