How do you think Labour will treat disabled claimants if, as seems increasingly likely, they form the next government?  Will they be better or worse than the Conservatives?

Last week’s Labour party manifesto left our readers divided on what the future might be like for disabled claimants under Labour.  The document made few references to benefits and gave no clues as to what its attitude would be to major issues such as ESA to UC migration, proposed Green paper changes to PIP or how exactly the WCA might be reformed.

Many readers felt that Labour was just being cautious, because any hint of being soft on claimants would be jumped on by the right-wing press.

Others thought that Labour were saying little because they do not have anything positive to say to disability benefits claimants.  Some think there is little difference between the two parties and some commentors even believe that Labour would be worse news for claimants than the Conservatives.

Certainly, the manifesto could have offered some hope to, for example Carer’s Allowance claimants. A change to the current cliff edge earnings limit would not have major cost implications.

And, to ensure claimant safety, Labour could have offered to look again at the very tight ESA to UC migration deadline imposed on the DWP by the Conservatives.  Delaying the transfer would not cost anything, given that it was previously delayed to 2028 to save money.

Labour could also have stated in the manifesto that they would look at the Green paper proposals for PIP, but that it was unlikely that a voucher system or a catalogue would play any part in any future plans.  Again, this would not have had cost implications.

None of these undertakings would have offered much in the way of ammunition to the right wing press, but all of them would have reassured claimants that Labour would give them some respite from the current relentless attacks.

On the other hand, no part of Labour’s plans include cutting benefits in order to raise cash for other purposes, such as tax cuts.

And, whilst they have said they will replace or reform the WCA, they have not suggested that they will reform PIP.

So, if benefits will play a major part in deciding who you will vote for, readers will have to make an educated guess as to what Labour might do based on minimal information.

Knowing what other claimants are thinking may be helpful in reaching a decision.

So, please take part in our poll to tell us whether you think life would be easier, harder or much the same under Labour rather than the Conservatives and, if you wish, give your reasons in the comments section below.

You can only vote once and we’ll publish the results on Monday 1 July.

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    · 5 months ago
    to be perfectly honest NONE of the parties are any use or honest.
    I would not mind being a politician just for the pension handshake alone.

    We did not want to be disabled NONE of us wanted this to happen to us But, we are and we are struggling with life daily.
    I have several health issues, retired and my teeth hurt with the amount of kicks in the face from VARIOUS governments.

    I`ll stop now as my blood is boiling and I need a lie down.  
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    · 5 months ago
    Neither party are trustworthy when it comes to any kind of Benefits. 
    They fail to mention many claimants have paid into the system over the years, and 
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    · 5 months ago
    I feel we are all just having to guess what Labour might get up to as facts are sadly lacking in their manifesto. I feel the big 2 are much of a muchness and I don't want anything to do with either! This election is going to be very difficult, but I really hope people DO vote and not waste their vote. I remain undecided, but I will DEFINITELY vote.
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    · 5 months ago
    Feel labour will look at the benefits system but will be on the side of working people and pensioners unlike the Conservative party who want to reduce the benefits bill with a voucher system that I dare say will involve more paperwork and delays in application 
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    · 5 months ago
    In my view, No finite information about Disabled people's Benefits is a sure sign that it won't be better. For the Conservatives however to drop NI which funds the NHS and DWP, seems a moronic move when they need more funding
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    · 5 months ago
    It is a waste of a vote on smaller parties such as greens reform or Lib Dem’s Lib Dem’s these parties will not get in to parliament 
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    · 5 months ago
    I have lost faith in government and no longer trust any party to keep their promises.
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      · 5 months ago
      @Chilli Damn right. I feel the same and I don't trust any of them. Ultimately we have no idea what any of them will do once they get into office. I have zero respect for authority, which is partly due to me being a high IQ autistic person, but mainly is because I've spent over four decades watching the awful behaviour, low empathy, and antics that come from the majority of humans. So I know what they are like.

      Labour and Conservatives have pretty much got the show stitched up between themselves and they know they can carry on with this crazy circus and get away with almost anything they want, no matter how unethical or lacking in genuine altruism. Not to mention the unelected state bureaucracy that is permanently in power. I think the country will have to become a lot worse before enough people vote for an alternative to put a very different party into office - and even once that happens, can we trust them to be benign and good-willed? I'm not holding my breath on that.

      I honestly think that if it wasn't so socially unpalatable these days and wouldn't create a scandalous backlash they would treat disabled and those with chronic health issues like they did in the 19th century and certain other unsavoury moments in history. Stuff us in clinics or homes, experiment on us, and hope that we die as quickly as possible through minimal care and support. Most people in authority seem to wish we didn't exist and regard us as a drain on society, or maybe even like the unwelcome poo floating in the otherwise clean and organised pool. The quicker we're brushed under the carpet and no longer a nuisance the better. I could probably bet money that is what some of them privately think to themselves.

      It does not escape my attention that they like to brag about reducing taxes to business or wage earners in order to lure voters, but then it's the most vulnerable or disadvantaged of us peasants that are then expected to make sacrifices for the benefit of people who are overall typically better off in life than we are.

      Personally, I'd rather vote on individual pieces of legislation or rules, not on which people are given free reign on the levers of power. If I vote I'll probably write "none of the above" on it and tell them to get stuffed.
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    · 5 months ago
    I think the Lib Dems offer the most realistic/reasonable offer to disabled claimants. I also think Labour may be less harsh than the Tories, because if they do get a large majority then there might be more Labour MP's that are more sympathetic and less likely to pass harsh legislation.

    But I do have my doubts. Labour have been keeping their cards close to their chest at a time when that would ordinarily be a bad idea. We can only hope.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Simon I think I'm going vote lib democracy because I want to, rather than a tactical vote for the best out of the worst. I don't believe conservatives have a chance in hell of being elected again.
      I do believe Labour will win regardless
      So may as well do what I think would suit me best
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    · 5 months ago
    Labour seem to have lost the ability to be the social party, where once upon a time they stood for working people and disabled people alike.
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    · 5 months ago

    By voting tactically, you can back the party that has the best chance of defeating the Tories where you live. This website is a tool to help you decide on your tactical vote.
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    · 5 months ago
    It was Labour which brought in work capability assessments in the first place. It is a red flag that they say so little when the other parties are quite detailed.  It appears Labour expect, even now, our automatic votes that seem only meant to kick out Tories - but expect zero criticism on such an important area as disability claims. They will not gain more votes by their silence. I can only read this as fear of losing votes
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    · 5 months ago
    I believe that Labour will be as harsh as the tories.
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    · 5 months ago
    We don't seem to have a choice,  they are saying it's a foregone conclusion that Labour will get in,  but I think we will be in worse trouble than with the Conservative.  It's a very dire situation for everyone I'm afraid and it's hard to know what to do for the best. 
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      · 5 months ago
      @Eileen Bacon How many disabled people are there, I can’t remember but surely our votes will have a big impact if we don’t vote for the two big parties 
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    · 5 months ago
    Anything would be better than the tories, as they plan to declare war on disabled people 
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      · 5 months ago
      @Jp2210 I couldn't have said it better or more succinctly. This is the simple and blatant truth of it!!
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    · 5 months ago
    I truly feel that Labour will not help PIP claimants, or any disability claims, as they are doing what they have done for years,  hide behind recent government,  then pounce once elected by the people, and come out of the woodwork, and play their trump card for the worse possible outcome.  Their aces are up very long sleeves and always have been.
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    · 5 months ago
    We cannot believe a word any if them say, they are all liars and only care about themselves. For the first time in my life, I don't know who to vote for, We are vilified and used to further  political gain by whipping up hate towards us and called workshy and lazy, despite working for the NHS for 15 years. It would be nice if just once we are not used to score points; no one chooses to be disabled, pretty sure most of us would prefer to be healthy working individuals. The tories Green paper I hope for one is used as toilet paper! It will probably cost more to implement than it saves and no doubt some mate of a mate will own the company they choose to oversee it. 
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    · 5 months ago
    The mindset of Conservative politicians and advisors is that the disabled are work shy. They talk about independent specialists assessing people when what they really mean is outsourced private contractors aiming to approve as few awards as possible. 
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    · 5 months ago
    I did contribute a comment on another thread which I attach here. Very disappointed with the response of Labour.  I will probably vote lib dem

    I can concur with the comment below in regards tot he party political manifestos. At least reform (who will not be forming the next Government) actually have a policy on PIP. There is nothing in the Labour manifesto ( a dead cert to be the next Government). When I spoke to the prospective Exeter MP for labour about this, he was VERY tight-lipped. I'm afraid that PIP is going in its current form. We'll have to await the probable budge in September for the details.

    I do work within the insurance industry, and to put some context into why benefits for working age people are being attacked, please note that currently 42% of ALL benefit payments go on the state pension. Both main political parties are planning to keep the Triple Lock. We are a rapidly ageing population, and on current projections the state pension bill will be larger than what we currently spend on the NHS by the mid 2030's. Therefore, unless general taxation is going to rise very significantly (a sure fire way to lose an election in the future) cuts will be made primarily to the expensive departments of Government, eg health, social security, social care (and nothing the labour manifesto about this at all), education and defence. What both parties want is more tax payers via employment. However, from previous experience employers (unless very large organisations) are deeply reluctant to take on disable people due to added cost, the time it takes for access to work to get sorted, and the fact that most office work is now target-oriented.

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    · 5 months ago
    To be honest their all babbling about everything. But if I do choose a party I'd pick Labour they might be holding back going to press on alot of stuff! But hells bells multi millionaire Sunak has been playing with people's lives as did the other 3 pms they don't give a shite about mums starving to feed the kids or the sick and disabled have a better life.
    Treating them like criminals looking into bank accounts when ever they see fit 1000s of pensioners now are getting stressed now if they Leave a bit of money in the bank for a sunny day. 
    The party is a disgrace 
    So I'd basically vote for anyone so long as it keeps blood sucking roaches OUT










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      · 5 months ago
      @Lynda Totally agree. This is the point. The way the tories have behaved is beyond the pale and they need to go. 

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    · 5 months ago
    I personally think they're all as bad as each other. They promise the earth & then do a U Turn. I hate to say it but labour's lack of voice on their benefits policies, has had alarm bells ringing for me. As someone has already said, at least Conservative have told us what they intend to do, but they certainly aren't getting my vote & neither is Labour. I will vote on someone that I believe in, even if they don't stand a chance of getting in, as my conscious wouldn't be clear if I voted for the lesser of the 2 evils Labour! I always say, even if your party doesn't get in, you can't moan, about the government unless you bothered to vote in the first place. Roll on the 4th July & maybe we'll know what's what. 
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      · 5 months ago
      @Megs Thank you megs, I just say it as I see it. I think I've been around long enough, not to trust any of them, as they always break their promises. 
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      · 5 months ago
      @Nuts That's a very sensible attitude may i say. 

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