pip reconsideration and descriptor on toilet needs

Hi
Wondered if you could help me out I had my medical for pip got my award saying I had only 4 points on each so couldn't get pip have asked for a mandatory reconsideration but I got no points for toileting I have a ileostomy stoma but I have a large hernia at the side (as well as stoma regularly ulcerating) my bags leak continuously and falls off regularly emptying contents over me etc very embarrassing causing me to have go home shower change clothes etc my daughter has to do washing etc I never go to unfamiliar places on my own because of this I cant have anymore surgery to correct this but when I tried to explain this to hcp she said its irrelevant as I can get on a toilet etc and its the bags that are at fault which is untrue so I got no points for this is it worth arguing on this point and would it be worth arguing this with esa as I got put in wrag group and they are trying to get me to voluntary work which I would be mortified when my bag fell off there Please any advice would be welcomed

If its untrue the bags are at fault you maust be able to get backup from your GP or consultant to this effect and you could appeal.

Did you submit this evidence to the DWP in your original evidence in support of your claim? If so it makes appealing easier as they have ignored the evidence and you can point to this in your appeal.

sharon cook wrote: Hi
Wondered if you could help me out I had my medical for pip got my award saying I had only 4 points on each so couldn't get pip have asked for a mandatory reconsideration but I got no points for toileting I have a ileostomy stoma but I have a large hernia at the side (as well as stoma regularly ulcerating) my bags leak continuously and falls off regularly emptying contents over me etc very embarrassing causing me to have go home shower change clothes etc my daughter has to do washing etc I never go to unfamiliar places on my own because of this I cant have anymore surgery to correct this but when I tried to explain this to hcp she said its irrelevant as I can get on a toilet etc and its the bags that are at fault which is untrue so I got no points for this is it worth arguing on this point and would it be worth arguing this with esa as I got put in wrag group and they are trying to get me to voluntary work which I would be mortified when my bag fell off there Please any advice would be welcomed

Sharon, the HCP is wrong. You have a stoma which is an appliance for toiletting, so you should have been awarded 2 points at least. Stomas regularly leak or don't adhere due to problems with the skin, or in your case the hernia. If you are unable to manage the stoma yourself without the help of another person, you could be entitled to 4 points for toiletting.
As for ESA, if you have regular substantial leakage from your stoma, this could satisfy the conditions for the support group.