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4 years 6 months ago #251881 by Gordon
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Sophie1985 wrote: One more thing i forgot to ask about.

I recorded the phone call during my assessment, The HP claims in her report that i said that i do a ceartain activity which i do not say that i did during the the call neither did state it in writing on my pip form. In fact i specifically state that i never do that activity both during the call and on my form.

Should i mention that i have a recording of the call and that i did not make such statements in my letter to the decision maker?


You can mention the recording but the DWP will not review it, they don't even listen to the ones that are recorded within their terms of operation.

Gordon

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4 years 6 months ago #251937 by Sophie1985
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I have just listened back to the audio recording i took of the assessment and I'm so angry at what appear to either be blatant fabrications or such unprofessional errors that would make or break my claim.

I am in the middle of putting a letter together to the decision maker, i haven't had a decision yet, but have a copy of assessment report and want to write to the decision maker and bring up these things hopefully before they make their decision, i will send this letter out first thing Monday.

Before i finish writing it up i would really appreciate if you could let me know if i have the right idea, there are only 2 major concerns i would appreciate your thoughts on the rest i think i can handle myself thanks' to your amazing guides on here.

1: I want to make it clear to them that 15m is about the maximum distance i can walk before i need to stop due to the pain making it impossible to walk further and that taking a 1-2 min break would NOT enable me to continue and walk a further 15m, i would need more time than that and i would also be left in pain for hours afterwards as a result of walking that distance.

My question is, is it important to point out in the letter that i did NOT state during my assessment that taking a 1-2 min break would enable me to continue walking as the report indicates? i know they can use any evidence to draw that conclusion without me specifically stating that but i don't believe there is anything else that would indicate it because i am basically house bound and have not been out in months, all shopping etc is done online.


2: Listing back to the audio recording of the assessment has me sitting here shaking my head with disbelief

In her report she states that "i engage in household chores " This is false, i specifically stated on both the written pip form and also during the phone assessment that i do not do any household chores what so ever. I am listening to my self right now specifically state this clearly during the audio recording, yet her report states that i do them! This just makes me so angry!.

She then goes on to say that engaging in household chores listening to podcasts and reading books" all suggest motivation, and uses this at the end of the report to score me down for daily living activities that i do not do due to physical pain and lack of motivation from depression, which i subbmitted evidence off in the form of anti depressant medication and a letter of referral for therapy for anxiety and low mood.

I am not sure how the best way to challenge this without saying the assessor is a liar and coming across angry, Should writing to the decision maker to state that i did not state that i did engage in household choirs and that actually i specifically stated that i do not? I have an audio recording of the call where she asks me if i do any house work, washing up etc and i clearly state that i do not.

Finally what is your opinion on using listening to podcasts and reading books to suggest motivation when scoring daily living activities? is that valid evidence of motivation because is sounds like clutching at straws to me.

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4 years 6 months ago #251944 by Gary
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Hi Sophie1985

In reply to the last part of your question: Finally what is your opinion on using listening to podcasts and reading books to suggest motivation when scoring daily living activities? is that valid evidence of motivation because is sounds like clutching at straws to me to be honest I do not recall anyone on the forum raising this query before, I certainly have not come across this in my day job, personally I do not see how listening to podcasts suggests motivation, you have to remember this is only an opinion of a assessor.

There is a small window for you to write to the Decision Maker but you will need to be quick.

Understand that the assessor is offering an opinion when they say that you can do the PIP activities, tackling these head-on is unlikely to be successful, you need to show that the basis of that opinion is founded on incorrect information, so try and refer to your evidence to undermine what they have said.

Also, try and stick to issues that lead to your scoring points, I often hear members referring to the assessors spelling, as an example, whilst it may show a lack of professionalism, raising it as an issue isn't going to help you get an award.

Make sure that you understand the criteria that you are being assessed against you can put the best case forward that is possible but you won't score points if you do not meet the PIP Descriptors.

Lastly, make sure that your letter makes it clear that you are not requesting a Mandatory Reconsideration but you reserve the right to do so once a Decision has been made.

Gary

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4 years 6 months ago #251948 by denby
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Hi, I have recently also had to write a letter challenging many lies in the assessment report. I used words like 'the assessor does not show any evidence that...' 'the assessor fails to ...' 'contrary to the assessor's statement that___, Docs XX and YY show that___....'
so that I avoided using the word liar and it at least reads 'cool calm and collected' [and hopefully convincing] rather than as angry as I, like you, feel'
I have exchanged emails with the wonderful John Pringle of Disability News Service and he thinks it will be worth reporting the nurse responsible to the Nursing and Midwifery Council. Previously I had no idea one could do this. So if I manage it that will be how I try to stop her little games. Chin up, best wishes, send letter signed-for and soon, Denby
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4 years 6 months ago #251960 by PDix
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I noted that on my assessment report that it wasn't finished until 5 working days after my assessment. My assessment was the first thing on a Monday morning and the report was completed by the assessor at 4.59 pm on the Friday. I used this for her "misremembering facts and not using evidence". It's worthwhile checking how long yours took for the assessor to complete.
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4 years 6 months ago #251965 by Sophie1985
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Thanks' all, have put a letter together addressed to the DM that i will send today and then it will be a waiting game.

I will let you know how it all goes.

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