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4 years 2 months ago #255554 by KPPurple
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Hi
A bit of background and context.
I applied for PIP in 2017 which then had to go appeal which I won for 3 years to 2020.
I then reapplied last year and was awarded enhanced mobility. I put forward an MR and have been awarded enchanced for daily living and mobility for another 3 years. In reality this will be 2.5 years due to them sending out a renewal form a few months before it expires.
I have been visually impaired from birth and was diagnosed with a cataract in 2019 which has further worsened my vision. At this point in time my cataract will not be removed as it’s too high risk because of my underlying condition. If they do choose to remove it, I will still have my underlying eye condition which will not improve.
As my vision has got worse I am wanting to understand why my award is only for 2.5 years? It is my understanding that short term awards are for those which have conditions which will improve. Long term awards are for those which have conditions which will either be stable or become worse.
Could anyone advise??
It’s not a good use of resources on their part to have me reapply for a condition which will only get worse. Even if the cataract is removed at this point there are no plans to do so, I will still be left with my underlying eye condition. I will still experience the same difficulties I do now, in terms of, preparing a meal or reading.
Would it be worth going to appeal for a longer award? I’d be happy with even 5 years. Of those that do appeal for a longer award at appeal, how many are successful?
If anyone has any advice or is visually impaired themselves on here and could offer advice that would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
A bit of background and context.
I applied for PIP in 2017 which then had to go appeal which I won for 3 years to 2020.
I then reapplied last year and was awarded enhanced mobility. I put forward an MR and have been awarded enchanced for daily living and mobility for another 3 years. In reality this will be 2.5 years due to them sending out a renewal form a few months before it expires.
I have been visually impaired from birth and was diagnosed with a cataract in 2019 which has further worsened my vision. At this point in time my cataract will not be removed as it’s too high risk because of my underlying condition. If they do choose to remove it, I will still have my underlying eye condition which will not improve.
As my vision has got worse I am wanting to understand why my award is only for 2.5 years? It is my understanding that short term awards are for those which have conditions which will improve. Long term awards are for those which have conditions which will either be stable or become worse.
Could anyone advise??
It’s not a good use of resources on their part to have me reapply for a condition which will only get worse. Even if the cataract is removed at this point there are no plans to do so, I will still be left with my underlying eye condition. I will still experience the same difficulties I do now, in terms of, preparing a meal or reading.
Would it be worth going to appeal for a longer award? I’d be happy with even 5 years. Of those that do appeal for a longer award at appeal, how many are successful?
If anyone has any advice or is visually impaired themselves on here and could offer advice that would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
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4 years 2 months ago #255564 by Gary
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Hi KPPurple
You need to get a copy of the assessorts report (PA4) to see what they advised.
Awards are usually anywhere from 2 - 10 years, if you are of state pension age then they can award a light touch review (10 years) but it would depend on your condition.
Whenever you go for an appeal, you may loose what you already have been awarded, we have heard of some successes on this forum, we have also heard from members where there have been no change in their award. You can wait over a year for an appeal to be heard although it does vary across regions, this was prior to Covid. I am not sure what the waiting time is post Covid.
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You need to get a copy of the assessorts report (PA4) to see what they advised.
Awards are usually anywhere from 2 - 10 years, if you are of state pension age then they can award a light touch review (10 years) but it would depend on your condition.
Whenever you go for an appeal, you may loose what you already have been awarded, we have heard of some successes on this forum, we have also heard from members where there have been no change in their award. You can wait over a year for an appeal to be heard although it does vary across regions, this was prior to Covid. I am not sure what the waiting time is post Covid.
Gary
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4 years 2 months ago #255567 by KPPurple
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Hi Gary
I’m not of pension age.
I have a copy of the PA4 and it says there will be change in the short term. Which I am really perplexed by...my underlying eye condition or things I have difficulty with will not change?!?? If anything it’ll get worse. My eye sight won’t become miraculously better by 2023.
I do understand the risk of appealing that I could lose my current award. I would really like to know what their rational is for a short term award? How they think my vision will improve? cataract or not my underlying condition will still exist.
With a review in 2023, would I have to go through a face to face or telephone assement again?
I’m not of pension age.
I have a copy of the PA4 and it says there will be change in the short term. Which I am really perplexed by...my underlying eye condition or things I have difficulty with will not change?!?? If anything it’ll get worse. My eye sight won’t become miraculously better by 2023.
I do understand the risk of appealing that I could lose my current award. I would really like to know what their rational is for a short term award? How they think my vision will improve? cataract or not my underlying condition will still exist.
With a review in 2023, would I have to go through a face to face or telephone assement again?
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4 years 2 months ago #255568 by Gary
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Hi KPPurple
Short-term awards of PIP for up to two years are given where the claimant is expected to improve significantly. You need to check through the assessors report to see how they came to that conclusion.
In regards to your last question, I have absolutely no idea, DWP may decide that telephone assessments become the norm, we will just have to wait and see what the Government does in this new world order.
Gary
Short-term awards of PIP for up to two years are given where the claimant is expected to improve significantly. You need to check through the assessors report to see how they came to that conclusion.
In regards to your last question, I have absolutely no idea, DWP may decide that telephone assessments become the norm, we will just have to wait and see what the Government does in this new world order.
Gary
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4 years 2 months ago #255598 by KPPurple
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Hi Gary
If my award is from 2020 - 2023, is it counted as a short term award? And not a long term award? I really don’t know on what basis they think my condition will improve significantly. My cataract is impacting on my vision currently, if it’s removed it’s uncertain what vision I’ll be left with.
My issue that I’m trying to put across is. I will still have my underlying eye condition which will never improve!! I have been visually impaired from birth! The issues that I have difficulty with , for example, reading will be there - cataract or not.
Can I appeal on the grounds of a long(er) award?
Second question for any future reviews, will I have to resubmit evidence?
If my award is from 2020 - 2023, is it counted as a short term award? And not a long term award? I really don’t know on what basis they think my condition will improve significantly. My cataract is impacting on my vision currently, if it’s removed it’s uncertain what vision I’ll be left with.
My issue that I’m trying to put across is. I will still have my underlying eye condition which will never improve!! I have been visually impaired from birth! The issues that I have difficulty with , for example, reading will be there - cataract or not.
Can I appeal on the grounds of a long(er) award?
Second question for any future reviews, will I have to resubmit evidence?
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4 years 2 months ago #255603 by BIS
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Hi KPPurple
The length of awards are becoming shorter and unfortunately, a lot of people are finding themselves in the same position as you whereby they have a long term condition but a shorter award length.
Not many members have managed to successfully argue that their award length should be increased, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. They will, however, look at your entire award and as you have already identified there is a risk in doing so, but I've only ever heard of two people having their awards downgraded at the MR stage and their cases were particularly unusual.
For any future reviews, you will only need to submit any new evidence that you have.
The length of awards are becoming shorter and unfortunately, a lot of people are finding themselves in the same position as you whereby they have a long term condition but a shorter award length.
Not many members have managed to successfully argue that their award length should be increased, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. They will, however, look at your entire award and as you have already identified there is a risk in doing so, but I've only ever heard of two people having their awards downgraded at the MR stage and their cases were particularly unusual.
For any future reviews, you will only need to submit any new evidence that you have.
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